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CSI Inserts Itself Into Politics (Criticizes Pro-Life Conservatives)
CBS ^ | 11/3/05 | Pyro7480

Posted on 11/03/2005 7:19:52 PM PST by Pyro7480

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To: CAWats
I noticed a couple of months ago that CSI was taking quick cheap shots at Conservatives and Christians.

Yep, we have too. We used to be intrigued by the show and the facinating technology. Too bad the writers of the program have drifted into too many sick and bizarre senarios that gross the viewers out.

Sorry, but I've given that program too many chances and they keep letting me down. The writers took their audience for granted and are now choking us with plots that are too far-fetched and uncomfortable. Good riddance, CSI.

61 posted on 11/03/2005 9:19:21 PM PST by demkicker (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON!)
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To: blake6900

LOL! I guess you read the whole thing, since I used the term "deviant sexual behavior" as well.


62 posted on 11/03/2005 9:19:59 PM PST by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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To: no dems

I already wrote Media Research Center. I won't be surprised if they write a report about it.


63 posted on 11/03/2005 9:30:11 PM PST by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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To: Pyro7480

West Wing was so offensive the other nite - about "right wing religious fanatics" that I started writing down the advertisers to contact.

But, they did make a good point about the fact that very, very few people are actually in favor of abortion in all circumstances. I believe that they made the opposite point of the one they intended.

In the long run, the more the hate from the other side is exposed, the better for the children of the future. As long as we show our love and remain firm.

The contrast is the Lord's tool.


64 posted on 11/03/2005 9:49:58 PM PST by hocndoc ( http://www.lifeethics.org Vote For Proposition 2 Nov 8 Defend law, not just marriage.)
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To: Pyro7480

I used to love that show.
Now it all about deviant sex. I don't watch it anymore.


65 posted on 11/03/2005 9:59:59 PM PST by It's me
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To: Bender2
Hollywood liberals do send us messages through popular culture. I enjoy a lot of shows but that's mean I subscribe to the politics. The CSI shows are well done and I like how the pieces of the puzzle fit together to reveal the entire crime. Hollywood looks at the world differently from the way a lot of us do and I'm not naive about the propaganda aspect of it or their hostility to mainstream values. Its not going to change overnight.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We're Know We're Dead Wrong.")

66 posted on 11/03/2005 10:01:20 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Pyro7480
Marg Helgenberger is an unbearably smug moral preener who likes to go around wearing anti-war slogans on her t-shirt, and being photographed while doing it. Both she and her husband, new SAG president Alan Rosenberg (a character actor who's had a mostly unimpressive career), are highly political Hollywood leftists. Rosenberg won election on a platform which promised to become more confrontational with film company management. He represents the most leftwing faction of SAG membership.

The CSI writers and Helgenberger contrived a scene between Helgenberger and a woman who runs an organization committed to "rescue" fertilized eggs supposedly hanging around unclaimed in IVF clinics nationwide. The writers put inane and ignorant words in the woman's mouth and the director told her to act mean and stupid. The whole thing was just an insult to thinking people.

67 posted on 11/03/2005 11:06:05 PM PST by beckett (Amor Fati)
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To: beckett
One more tidbit that I just picked up about Helgenberger's hubby, Alan Rosenberg, while checking his bio on IMDB. He was once a Black Panther.

You just can't make this stuff up. This is what Hollywood is, folks.

68 posted on 11/03/2005 11:37:16 PM PST by beckett (Amor Fati)
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To: Pyro7480
True, I was born guilty, a sinner, even as my mother conceived me. -- Ps. 51:5

Related, a Biblical examination of this topic from a Catholic perspective:

When Babies Get Their Souls

69 posted on 11/03/2005 11:59:25 PM PST by AHerald ("Take heart; rise, he is calling you." Mark 10:49)
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To: Pyro7480

"Why do the writers and producers feel the need to attack the faith of millions of Americans just because they disagree with them?"

Evil always attacks good. That is its nature.


70 posted on 11/04/2005 2:12:06 AM PST by dsc
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To: takbodan

"Hello...they are actors and were saying their lines, not their political philosophy."

If I were an actor, there are lines I would not say.


71 posted on 11/04/2005 2:22:34 AM PST by dsc
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To: Pyro7480

I suspect alot of conservatives watch CSI because it is one of the few intelligent shows on tv. And yet they slapped us across the face with this one. I don't mind controversy, but I fail to see why anyone would be hostile to the idea of giving life a chance. It's not like they are out there rounding up unwilling women and impregnating them. I cannot understand why even a pro choice advocate would be against what the real organization (Snowflake) does. They could easily have had one of the CSI folk take the opposite position, praising what they do etc, to at least appear even handed.
And of course, the misuse of scripture was absurd. Sadly, alot of people don't know anything about the real program to adopt out these embryos and will take this show as the truth. How very sad, but typical of Hollywood.
susie


72 posted on 11/04/2005 5:37:47 AM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracty theorist....really.)
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To: Pyro7480

Um, how could the autopsy determine she was a virgin? Wouldn't the birthing process destroy the evidence, so to speak?


73 posted on 11/04/2005 6:35:58 AM PST by Eepsy
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To: Eepsy

No, she had a C-section. The hymen was intact, according to the medical examiner.


74 posted on 11/04/2005 6:36:57 AM PST by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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To: brytlea

Actually, overall the show tends to run conservative (or at least not overtly lib like most stuff on the networks). A couple of years ago they took a very pro-death penalty stance in one of their episodes and actually include religious people that aren't portrayed as complete freaks.

And it's still the show that has my favorite TV line ever: "That's as phony as a Chappaquiddick neck brace." (at a staged crime scene.)


75 posted on 11/04/2005 6:44:05 AM PST by Hoodlum91
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To: brytlea

I'm glad someone started this thread. I was so annoyed when the Helgenberg character started making those snide comments. The whole section was set up to mock people who are pro life. They made the woman who ran the Sunflower program seem like a weirdo, also. Then, when the Helgenberger character defended her comments to her superior and he smirked his way out of reprimanding her, that was really too far.

The left needs to mock things like embryonic implantation/rescue because to do otherwise might make them actually have to face the fact that "the little blob of tissue" is actually as nascent human being.


76 posted on 11/04/2005 6:55:14 AM PST by chickadee
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To: Hoodlum91

I had not had a real problem with it until this episode. I'm sure I'm a little numb to some of the more subtle stuff, because heck, TV is SO rife with liberal tripe that I am probably somewhat desensitized. However, this was just so blatant, and uncalled for. Why demonize an organization that is trying to help people have children and at the same time help embryos who will otherwise not have a shot at life?
Someone on another bb I'm on suggested that it's because Snowflake competes with stem cell researchers for those embryos. Maybe so.
susie


77 posted on 11/04/2005 6:58:06 AM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracty theorist....really.)
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To: Pyro7480
I'm surprised no one has brought up the one pro-life message in the show. The Sunflower director asked the disparaging Catherine Willow whether she'd had an abortion, and Willow said something to the effect of "Thank God, no!" It was quite subtle but Helgenberger conveyed that she had considered it an option but decided to give birth to her baby.

CSI pays little attention to the private lives of the scientists but it's been mentioned that Willow, a single mother, has an adolescent daughter she adores.

It was one tiny little ray of light in an otherwise abysmally liberal show, and it was easy to miss, but I still think it was very powerful.

78 posted on 11/04/2005 8:49:25 AM PST by HateBill (Democratic Message: "Kiss Terrorist A*s" vs. Republican Message: "Kick Terrorist A*s")
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To: Pyro7480

One thing that was puzzling to me: According to the show, the murdered mother's hymen was intact, thereby 'proving' she was a virgin.

I'm not clear on these concepts:

1. If she gave birth, wouldn't this break the hymen in all liklihood?

2. If not, why couldn't the hymen have been left intact after intercourse.

3. Why did any of this matter to the plot of the show?


79 posted on 11/04/2005 8:56:08 AM PST by wildbill
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To: Erasmus

I asked my criminology professor, a Houston police captain with many years in homicide, about the flashlights and he just laughed and said it was a TV show.


80 posted on 11/04/2005 8:58:47 AM PST by wildbill
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