The graphic below shows a similar collapse at the Bay Bridge in San Francisco during the major earthquake in the late 1980s. Notice how neither the slabs nor the steel girders actually failed -- the slabs simply "slid" off their supports at one end.
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Posted on 08/30/2005 1:34:04 PM PDT by NautiNurse
The situation in New Orleans continues to deteriorate due to rising water levels and desperation. Search and rescue continues via boat and air. Authorities have announced the goal to evacuate all the remaining residents of NOLA. The New Orleans Mayor has reported numerous gas leaks throughout the city. Sporadic fires occurring. Attempts to evacuate hundreds of hospital patients from Charity Hospital and Tulane Medical Center are in process. Patients are being transported to other hospitals as far away as Florida.
The Army Corps of Engineers is at the NOLA levee breaks with current plans to drop 3000 lb sand bags in an effort to stop the flow of water. NOLA hospital evacuations continue for thousands of patients. Reports indicate all evacuees are being taken to the SuperDome, which is now surrounded by water. The generators at the Dome are now in jeopardy. The Governor of Louisiana has called for a day of prayer tomorrow...
Elsewhere, search and rescue continue in Mississippi and Alabama. Biloxi reports indicate catastrophic damage.
Links to various news and local government websites:
WLOX TV Biloxi, Gulfport, Pascagula has link to locate family and friends (very slow load)
2theAdvocate - Baton Rouge Includes Slidell, St. John Parish, St. Bernard Parish updates, and other locations.
Inside Houma Today needing boats, volunteers, lists gas station openings, water, etc.
WALA Channel 4 Mobile, AL Includes links to distribution centers, Emergency Ops, etc.
Sun-Herald Gulfport MS Includes link to town by town reports
Mississippi updates via Jackson Ledger
Streaming Video:
WWL-TV (via KHOU/Houston): http://www.wwltv.com/cgi-bin/bi/video/makeadplaylist.pl?title=beloint_khou&live=yes
WKRG/Mobile: mms://wmbcast.mgeneral.speedera.net/wmbcast.mgeneral/wmbcast_mgeneral_aug262005_1435_95518
WDSU/New Orleans via WAPL/Jackson: mms://a842.l1291238841.c12912.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/842/12912/v0001/reflector:38841
All are Windows Media Player links.
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Due to the number of requests to assist, the following list of some charities is provided.
This is not intended as an endorsement for any of the charities.
www.redcross.org or 1-800 HELP NOW - note: website is slow
Salvation Army - 1-800-SAL-ARMY or Salvation Army currently looking for in-state volunteers - (888)363-2769
Operation Blessing: (800) 436-6348.
America's Second Harvest: (800) 344-8070.
Catholic Charities USA: (800) 919-9338, or www.catholiccharitiesusa.org.
Christian Reformed World Relief Committee: (800) 848-5818.
Church World Service: (800) 297-1516 or online at www.churchworldservice. org.
Lutheran Disaster Response: (800) 638-3522.
Nazarene Disaster Response: (888) 256-5886.
Presbyterian Disaster Assistance: (800) 872-3283.
Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is accepting donations at its 3,800 stores and Web site, www.walmart.com.
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I am having a hard understanding why the 30 who lost their lives at a beach front apartment ( in gulfport? )complex (usually beach front property, even tacky cheap beach front property, is expensive) decided to ride out a killer storm.
It wasn't him; it's a film clip that a tv crew from Jackson MS filmed flying over Gulfport and Biloxi.
The graphic below shows a similar collapse at the Bay Bridge in San Francisco during the major earthquake in the late 1980s. Notice how neither the slabs nor the steel girders actually failed -- the slabs simply "slid" off their supports at one end.
Wow. What an idea. It makes way too much sense for the government to think of, and would take a few ships, but damn, that's a plan. They could all walk to it. You need to be in office!
Oooh. I saw some aerial footage of that area on CNN earlier tonight. Total, complete devastation.
Yep, but this evening Fox News had no problem showing terrorist footage of a U.S. helicopter cartwheeling in the air before it crashed after it was shot down in Iraq.
To get from one side of NO to the other side takes 300+ miles (per Shep) due to the breaks and flooding -- unless you have a boat or helicopter.
Good catch. Deserves it's own thread.
My first instinct, too, but they are different news agencies. The big deal would be if it was two sets of photos from the same agency.
"Is anyone watching the two police women looting Wal-Mart for shoes??? They just showed it on MSNBC...unreal."
I'm sorry folks, call this another holly roller rant. But if this story is true and is indictive of the morals of the public officials down there, just maybe it was time for Katrina.
"To: STARWISE
DRUDGE:
NAVY SHIPS AND MARITIME RESCUE TEAMS SENT TO REGION
Tue Aug 30 2005 21:33:11 ET
The Pentagon late Tuesday ordered five Navy ships and eight maritime rescue teams to the Gulf Coast to bolster relief operations as worsening conditions overwhelmed the initial response.
The NEW YORK TIMES plans to report later tonight: One Navy amphibious assault ship, the Bataan, with six Sea Stallion and Sea Hawk helicopters that could be used for search and rescue missions.
The ships will carry food, fuel, medical and construction supplies, as well as hovercraft that can be used for evacuation and search-and-rescue missions.
The Navy was also considering sending the hospital ship Comfort. "
For the next few days, the primary focus has to be WATER.
Each person still alive in New Orleans needs one gallon of WATER per day. If all 100,000 who stayed behind survived, that is eleven 18 wheel truck tankers full of WATER everyday.
But New Orleans isn't the only issue. There are refugees along a strip the Gulf a mile wide and 166 miles long who also need WATER and it needs to be DELIVERED.
The military is headed in, under a two or three star general, and we need to hope they can do all the jobs we need to have done, in the ORDER that allows the most survivors possible to live out the week.
This is a classic triage situation, on a very large scale.
The sooner every American understands this, and faces reality, the sooner we can harness ALL of our respective talents and accomplish what we can.
We can whine about hard truths and ugly reality or we can save as many and as much as we can, but we can't each do both.
Decision time, accept reality and then try to put whatever smiles we can on it, is right around the corner, and crunch time is hot on its heels.
What about putting new fuel in the generators, and then every month pumping it out and feeding it to other facilities that will use it immediately? Or does that become logistically impractical?
I believe W will be in charge tomorrow.
Not looking good at all and I am usually an optimist. That breech is pretty long to try and contain.
Oh for heaven's sake.
So that's what old nervous Nellie is all hypersensitive about?
What a pile of hooey.
I wonder why they didn't think of that! I believe the bridge is out on one side and the pulps failed on the other effectively islanding it.
I used to live out there and took surface streets rather than go on some of those bridges -- too high for this person.
I agree and understand. But for some of the reasons you state I wouldn't build a disaster plan around the use of aged fuel.
For example: at my main office computer center, we have a generator for backup power, with enough fuel to last about four days. We have a fuel replacement plan in place there, to make sure that the tanks are not only topped off, but are pumped out and replaced if the fuel is more than four or so months old. For 1,000 or so gallons of fuel at a time this waste is not a big deal.
If it was 30,000 gallons every few months being wasted... you can bet that it would be a big deal.
In a perfect world, fresh fuel whenever you need it is a wonderful thing. However, the whole purpose of having a backup generator is to be able to use it during less than perfect times. To have a generator and not maintain a reasonable amount of diesel fuel storage is certainly not the wisest course. Additives and careful storage really do work.
That's so sad. My youngest is a toddler and I can't imagine handling her in a crisis like this. Heck, I can't even imagine dealing with my very emotional 8 year old or her autistic 11 year old brother. Poor babies and children.
Breaking News: Gunmen With AK-47s Fire at New Orleans Police Station
"Am I the only one who remembers when the National Guard used to be called out to prevent this kind of crap?"
Yea, when they could walk or ride in a vehicle to the scene, not swim. Besides, it was reported this afternoon that mostly all communication has failed.
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