Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VIII

NOAA - NHC ^ | 29 August 2005 | NOAA - NHC

[NautiNurse]

Category 4 Hurricane Katrina is approaching landfall in Eastern Louisiana. At 4:00AM EDT the storm's center was about 90 miles south of New Orleans.

The following links are self-updating:

Public Advisory Currently published every 3 hours 5A, 8A, 11A, 2P, etc. ET
NHC Discussion Published every six hours 6A, 11A, 6P, 11P
Three Day Forecast Track
Five Day Forecast Track
Navy Storm Track
Katrina Track Forecast Archive Nice loop of each NHC forecast track for both three and five day
Forecast Models
Alternate Hurricane Models via Skeetobite
Bouy Data Louisiana/Mississippi
Buoy Data Florida

Lake Ponchartrain Real Time Water Level

Wind Speed Data

Images:

New Orleans/Baton Rouge Experimental Radar Subject to delays and outages - and well worth the wait

Mobile Long Range Radar Loop

New Orleans/Baton Rouge Radar

Ft. Polk, LA Long Range Radar Loop

Northwest Florida Long Range Radar

Storm Floater IR Loop
Storm Floater Still & Loop Options
Color Enhanced IR Loop

Other Resources:

Hurricane Wind Risk Very informative tables showing inland wind potential by hurricane strength and forward motion
Central Florida Hurricane Center
New Orleans Web Cams Loads of web cam sites here. The sites have been very slow due to high traffic
New Orleans Music Online Couldn't resist--love that jazz
Golden Triangle Weather Page Nice Beaumont weather site with lots of tracks and graphics
Hurricane City
Crown Weather Tropical Website Offers a variety of storm info, with some nice track graphics

Live streaming:

Cut and Paste:

http://www.wwltv.com/perl/common/video/wmPlayer.pl?title=beloint_khou&props=livenoad

Fully-linked version of the live feeds (just in case a few people don't want to first open up WMP to cut-and-paste) -

WWL-TV/DT New Orleans (WMP) - mms://beloint.wm.llnwd.net/beloint_wwltv
WVTM-TV/DT Birmingham (WMP) - mms://a1256.l1289835255.c12898.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/

1256/12898/v0001/reflector:35255
WDSU-TV/DT New Orleans (WMP) - http://mfile.akamai.com/12912/live/reflector:38202.asx
Hurricane City (Real Player) - http://hurricanecity.com/live.ram
ABCNews Now (Real Player) - http://reallive.stream.aol.com/ramgen/redundant/abc/now_hi.rm
WKRG-TV/DT

Mobile (WMP) - mms://wmbcast.mgeneral.speedera.net/wmbcast

.mgeneral/wmbcast_mgeneral_aug262005_1435_95518 WDSU-TV/DT New Orleans via WESH-TV/DT Orlando - http://mfile.akamai.com/12912/live/reflector:38843.asx

Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VII
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VI
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part V
Hurricane Katrina, Live Thread, Part IV
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part III
Katrina Live Thread, Part II
Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part I
Tropical Storm 12

Category	Wind Speed	Barometric Pressure	Storm Surge	Damage Potential
Tropical Depression	< 39 mph < 34 kts			Minimal
Tropical Storm	39 - 73 mph 34 - 63 kts			Minimal
Hurricane 1 (Weak)	74 - 95 mph 64 - 82 kts	28.94" or more 980.02 mb or more	4.0' - 5.0' 1.2 m - 1.5 m	Minimal damage to vegetation
Hurricane 2 (Moderate)	96 - 110 mph 83 - 95 kts	28.50" - 28.93" 965.12 mb - 979.68 mb	6.0' - 8.0' 1.8 m - 2.4 m	Moderate damage to houses
Hurricane 3 (Strong)	111 - 130 mph 96 - 112 kts	27.91" - 28.49" 945.14 mb - 964.78 mb	9.0' - 12.0' 2.7 m - 3.7 m	Extensive damage to small buildings
Hurricane 4 (Very strong)	131 - 155 mph 113 - 135 kts	27.17" - 27.90" 920.08 mb - 944.80 mb	13.0' - 18.0' 3.9 m - 5.5 m	Extreme structural damage
Hurricane 5 (Devastating)	Greater than 155 mph Greater than 135 kts	Less than 27.17" Less than 920.08 mb	Greater than 18.0' Greater than 5.5m	Catastrophic building failures possible

[easonc52]

Just spoke to my Father-in-law in Lamar Co., Oak Grove outside Hattiesburg, he has trees down everywhere in the yard a couple narrowly missed the house. He went through Fredrick but said this was the worst ever in that area.

Thanks for the info.

I saw earlier on FNC a blob of activity that was surrounding Hattiesburg, but I don't believe Katrina had even gotten there yet.

I'll definitely have my dad check on his sisters tonight (he's the baby of the family - lol (actually I'm tearing up)). One aunt has a kid and family in TN, but I'm not sure if they're out of the woods.

FNC is fairly general on the storm, and I'm in UT.

Thanks again.

[Howlin]

Look at the work Spiff has done! Isn't it wonderful?

[GovernmentShrinker]

The Red Cross lied about the donations they collected "for 9/11 victims". They were spending much of it on their "general purposes" until Congress ordered them to use all the money they had collected by appealing for help for 9/11 victims, directly to those victims. That was the last time I'll ever give to the Red Cross. There are plenty of honest charities out there.

[RobFromGa]

The other question is how much did the cyclic timing of eyewall replacement as it related to landfall have to do with the fact that the storm dropped in intensity? If the storm had been "off-cycle" by three or four hours and not yet ready to replace eyewall, would it have remained a "5"?

The key for meteorologists is to understand, as well as they can, what caused the erosion from a "5" to a "4"? The same thing with the jog east.

[AnAmericanMother]

I didn't much care for Javert either, but the book explains his motivation better than the musical did.

Interestingly, the old B&W movie w/ Charles Laughton highlights his motivation - that he was the offspring of a gypsy and a convict, and his self respect and self image are completely bound up in the absolute enforcement of the letter of the law - justice without mercy.

Of course, in a natural disaster, justice w/o mercy is probably what's needed, at least in the first few days. It's too hard, especially in the absence of enough effective law enforcement, to tell the "scavengers" from the "looters". Better to get to the shelter and get a couple of MREs than get shot hooking a couple jars of peanut butter out of somebody's general store.

[bwteim]

It IS impressive.

[ContemptofCourt]

That'll buff right out, I'm sure....

[hoosiermama]

Thanks, trying to figure out if family's home is completely flooded.

[chuknospam]

"If it were possible I'd reach into my tv screen and throttle the next reporter that says something along the lines of "looks like things didn't turn out so bad after all."

Folks have no idea what is before them, it won't be for another day or two before the extent of the damage is shown. It's just beginning.

[SoothingDave]

Perhaps you should ask Jesus of Nazareth, who could have saved His life but felt it would have been wrong.

Isn't Jesus a special case? Really, now.

Some things are more precious than life, including ideals. Is violating the Commandment "Thou Shalt Not Steal" lesser in precendence than saving a life?

Rights are useless without life. I believe the very definition of an "idealogue" is someone who believes his ideals and principles are more valuable than an actual human life expiring in front of him.

Maybe you would let someone die rather than "steal" medicine for them during an emergency, but I would not.

Just for hoots...what would you say if two people in the pharmacist's family died because those medicines used to save the other person were not available? Was it wrong then?

Well, in my scenario, the pharmacist and his family were not on the premises. We can discuss how to ration supplies during an emergency, but I think a basic element of any scheme would have to admit that people actually present have a higher claim on emergency medicines than those theorhetically in need at a future time who aren't even here. The life dying here right now takes precednce.

SD

[Gondring]

Those were the assumptions that I saw going into those models in the first place, so I don't see why they need to be reworked--this storm didn't follow those assumptions and seemed to behave just as predicted for its path.

[NautiNurse]

Here is another site to check for updates. They will post local storm reports, and local weather statements as they come in from LEO. Wunderground.com

That link takes you directly to Mandeville. At the top of the page, just fill in the city, state, or zip code for another location.

[rolling_stone]

He demonstrated to the world His power and amazing glory today!

I think a few of the dead and their families might question his "glory" today...dont bother responding I am not going further off topic...

[Smogger]

Debris from a fallen building covers several cars in downtown New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina battered the Louisiana Coast on Monday, Aug. 29, 2005.

[ClancyJ]

I'm just making a point.

[fooman]

My larger point in this, is that I am not sure the models note the compartmentalizatio of the levee system and how cost/benefit improvements could be made.

I also think people should be let home, with the usual be safe warnings (dont touch power lines)

[JerseyHighlander]

Any chance you could start a thread IX?

Reading reports from anonymous posters on the forums of local media websites:

Most of East NO is under water(5 to 12ft).

Harvey/Gretna areas (I believe directly Southeast of the Superdome and Canal St.) are flooding due to pump failure(~5 feet).

Gran Isle has been cut in two.

Here's some anonymous reports from http://www.wwltv.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=1&sid=37d65c376f671954c2fb00658b13c1f6

PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 12:53 pm Post subject: Lakeview-Looking Bleak Reply with quote
Just heard from my dad in Lakeview. He is on Colbert Street, South of Harrison. All the cars are covered and there is about two feet of water in our house (and we are three feet elevated). He is in the attic right now with an axe, two dogs, a cat, and two birds. Our other two birds have already died. Please pray that the water stops rising. I heard the 17th street canal has been breeched.
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lucky85



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 12:55 pm Post subject: Lakeview Reply with quote
Perhaps not surprisingly, I was watching Baton Rouge TV and listening to BR radio. Area around Plantation Coffee House is flooded (what's new?) Areas on I-10 near Metarie Road underpass is hugely flooded. A lot of vets near Transcontinental is flooded.

Not sure near my house.
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[Knitting A Conundrum]

Storms can surely be frightening. I forget Onyx would have been near the storm....glad she checked in.

[BurbankKarl]

$26 billion damage estimate

- US Insurance Companies