"American foreign policy successes have come in spite of, not due to, American intelligence organizations."
Angelo Codevilla - Informing Statecraft (the pre-eminent book on American Intel)
Posted on 06/30/2005 11:24:54 AM PDT by CHARLITE
After a meeting with convicted Oklahoma City bomber Terry Nichols, a U.S. congressman reaffirmed evidence of a Middle East connection to the 1995 attack.
Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif. – who has publicly vowed to address unanswered questions about the bombing – went with a staff aid to the super-maximum security prison in Florence, Colo., where Nichols is serving 161 consecutive life sentences, according to the Northeast Intelligence Network, a private, counter-terrorist research and investigation group.
In his quizzing of Nichols, the congressman relied heavily on the investigative work of journalist Jayna Davis and her book, "The Third Terrorist: The Middle Eastern Connection to the Oklahoma City Bombing," published by WND Books.
Davis asserts Nichols and Timothy McVeigh were not the lone conspirators but were part of a greater scheme involving Islamic terrorists and at least one provable link to Iraq.
As WorldNetDaily reported, Rohrabacher has said he is "deeply disturbed" that the FBI did not follow up on affidavits Davis turned over to the bureau from 22 witnesses supporting evidence that Iraqi intelligence agents infiltrated the United States to recruit and assist McVeigh and Nichols.
Davis spoke with Rohrabacher after his visit with Nichols and gave a tape of her conversation to Northeast Intelligence Network Director Douglas Hagmann.
The congressman told Davis: "Yours is the only game in town that has any evidence."
Nichols acknowledged the existence of John Doe No. 2 – the alleged third terrorist – but stopped short of identifying him, claiming he "did not want to speculate."
However, according to Rohrabacher, Nichols said "he thought other people [beyond Nichols and Timothy McVeigh] were involved" in the Oklahoma City bombing.
"Timothy McVeigh on a number of occasions, had talked about Middle Easterners," Rohrabacher told Davis. "Terry didn't say anything that would dispel the theory, the central theory of your research, which is these people [witnesses featured in "The Third Terrorist"] actually saw Tim McVeigh and he was with Arabs, and these are the people that you tracked down."
Rohrabacher, chairman of the House Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations, said Nichols did not say anything that would undercut Davis' finding of a definitive Middle Eastern connection to the bombing.
The congressman said Nichols "didn't do anything that would in any way ... counter the witnesses that you have dug up and put on the record."
The witnesses provided sworn affidavits to Davis and Chicago-based attorney David Schippers, who served as chief investigative counsel to the House Judiciary Committee for the impeachment trial of former President Clinton.
Schippers also prosecuted a number of high-profile organized crime figures under U.S. Attorney General Robert Kennedy.
After conducting lengthy videotaped interviews with more than a dozen of Davis' confidential witnesses in May, Schippers stated: "Given the credibility of these witnesses, I could get an indictment with just one day of testimony before a grand jury."
Former CIA director James Woolsey also has found the witness statements accumulated by Davis to be credible, including many who attested to observing Middle Eastern nationals in the company of McVeigh and at the Murrah building at the time of the bombing.
Rohrabacher told Davis: "Your evidence remains the heaviest"
Despite the information he received from Nichols, the congressman told Davis he still was "in no hurry" to convene congressional hearings, but said he wanted to see more of her evidence.
As WND reported, on the 10th anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing, in April, Rohrabacher asked in a House-floor speech why the FBI ignored strong evidence of a Middle East connection to the attack.
Rohrabacher said at the time that if the FBI does not provide satisfactory answers to his questions, he will call for congressional hearings.
Two years ago, on the eve of U.S. action in Iraq, Davis' reporting on the Oklahoma City bombing was vindicated when the U.S. 10th Circuit Court of Appeals dismissed a lawsuit filed against her after finding "defendants did not recklessly disregard the truth" in reporting on an Iraqi soldier's alleged involvement in the bombing.
Read WorldNetDaily's extensive coverage of the Oklahoma City bombing case.http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=29290
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Exactly. Look at Charles Manson. It always bothered me how the government rused to put him to death. I even told hubby something is wrong here. Why kill him when he probably is going to his grave with many secrets.
Pity.
Not it's all up to Nickols
backhoe, where are you? ... check this out
Jayna, backhoe is a trove of information
you two might have something to talk about
Your view is a reasonable one. Still...
You rang?
Countyline, I certainly appreciate your kind words.
Jayna, I'm at your service, although I am more of a collector of links than anything else- there is an element of truth to my tagline. I will read this thread more thoroughly when I return online in the morning- I've skimmed over it, but that isn't sufficient for serious purposes.
BTTT
Yes, a pity. But I think Nichols may be persuaded to reveal more, now that he has opened the door. Let's hope he doesn't give 'shivved' before he does.
Thanks for the ping!
Char :)
"American foreign policy successes have come in spite of, not due to, American intelligence organizations."
Angelo Codevilla - Informing Statecraft (the pre-eminent book on American Intel)
"American foreign policy successes have come in spite of, not due to, American intelligence organizations."
True, but with a few more CIA, FBI and UN enemas to very appropriately purge the enemies within, we could feel...flushed with pride....
Wow.....great thread........very interesting.
Codevilla was being polite in that quote. What he was *actually* saying is that American intel organizations have been pursuing paths that sometimes conflict with the best interests of the U.S. (i.e. treason).
"I thought I had it on semi."
dang - I hate it when that happens! happens! happens! happens! happens! happens! happens!
;^D
I got it. I was saying we take some Ex-Lax to appropriately 'purge' them from our 'system' ....
;^)
Exactly!!!!
I expect FR should take up this call for inquiry, GENUINE INQUIRY, by our elected officials REGARDLESS of who stands to fall.
It is CRITICAL to our homeland security to understand the full underpinnings of the OKLA travesty-such knowledge could go a long way in helping us to prevent future attacks.
There are probably thousands of Nichols and McVeigh's in the wings, ripe for use by the Iraqi jihadists and other scum.
It is time to get this going.
Calling the people Jayna suggested is a start. Writing to the editors of local papers regarding her book, is another start.
And pressuring our OWN senators and congresspeople, in my case, Lugar (semi-sigh), Bayh (sigh) and Burton (AOK) is important as well.
Let's do it. We were not only impressive and convicted and non-stop when it came to impeaching klinton, now let's be the same in getting to the truth of the Okla bombing...if the TWA downing comes back into play....SO MUCH THE BETTER.
I want NAMES.
I want to know the NAMES of the FBI personnel who REFUSED to consider the affadavits of 22 witnesses.......
I want to know WHERE in the FBI, the ORDER CAME DOWN TO IGNORE THEM.
I want to know if RENO's JUSTICE DEPT ORDERED the shut down of a genuine investigation into the THIRD TERRORIST.
Considering the massive death in OKLA and the EVER greater loss of life on Sept 11th, IT IS CRITICAL THAT WE UNDERSTAND EXACTLY HOW AND WHO SHUT DOWN THIS MOST IMPORTANT INFORMATION JAYNA COLLECTED AND ATTEMPTED TO RELAY.
NAMES.
We need to start with NAMES. So that we can begin to unravel WHO WAS ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE and WHY THIS WAS DONE.
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Yes, and it's stullifyingly vast, since it morphed from "stuff the media doesn't like to talk about" into "stuff I think we all need to know about"-- seamole dubbed it a "psuedo-blog," and that's a fair description, instead of opinions, I post and add links. When I run across enough information to justify a standalone post of links, I'll proceed like this: -Oklahoma City's lost information-- ...but these have not been updated in some time- interest in the subject waxed and waned. |
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