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Stone Age Cutups (Deathly Rituals Emerge at Neandertal Site)
RedNova News ^ | Friday, 22 April 2005

Posted on 04/22/2005 11:36:48 PM PDT by nickcarraway

After excavating a cache of Neandertal fossils about 100 years ago at Krapina Cave in what's now Croatia, researchers concluded that incisions on the ancient individuals' bones showed that they had been butchered and presumably eaten by their comrades. That claim has proved difficult to confirm. A new, high-tech analysis indicates that the Krapina Neandertals ritually dismembered corpses in ways that must have held symbolic meaning for the group-whether or not Neandertals ate those remains.

Neandertals apparently possessed a facility for abstract thought that has often been regarded as unique to modern Homo sapiens, says study director Jill Cook of the British Museum in London. The Krapina Neandertals lived around 130,000 years ago.

"Some kind of mortuary practice that had symbolic significance was going on at Krapina," Cook suggests. Although cannibalism might also have occurred, the bodies were systematically sliced up rather than quickly butchered, in her view. "Even eating people is a complex behavior" that likely would have included ritual of some kind, the British anthropologist notes.

GROOVY GUY in a new study, a partial skull from Croatia's Krapina cave revealed a sequence of stone-tool incisions, one of which is clearly visible (arrow) atop the head.

Cook described the new investigation last week in Milwaukee at the annual meeting of the Paleoanthropology Society.

She and her colleagues used digital-imaging microscopy to generate high-resolution views of stone-tool incisions on Krapina remains. Many of the more than 800 fossils, which represent nearly 80 individuals, contain such markings. The researchers digitally lifted and separated images of incisions on individual bones for closer examination.

A partial skull known as Krapina 3 provided the biggest jolt. To the researchers' surprise, it contains a pattern of regularly spaced, parallel grooves across the top of the head. "Someone sat with this skull in their lap and produced this extraordinary pattern with a stone tool," Cook says.

Krapina 3 and other skull remains exhibit marks made by slicing away the ears, removing the tongue, detaching the lower jaw, and skinning the head. Lower-body fossils contain incisions created by removing muscle from bones as well as abrasions caused by scrubbing fat and gristle off bones. Cuts on pelvic and leg bones indicate that bodies lay facedown during dismemberment.

Researchers who have worked at the Krapina Cave greeted the new findings with caution. "We can't rule out some type of ritual activity at Krapina, or even cannibalism," says Fred Smith of Loyola University in Chicago. "But we can't tell for sure why these bones were processed." Many limb bones at the site were smashed open, perhaps to extract protein-rich marrow, Smith notes.

Even with digital technology, it's difficult to pinpoint incisions on the Krapina fossils, adds Milford Wolpoff of the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor. A shellac coating applied to the bones as a preservative shortly after their discovery obscures many surface features on the bones, he asserts.

Of stone-tool marks that can be seen with digital microscopy, many resemble those on butchered-animal remains at later Stone Age sites, says Paola Villa of the University of Colorado Museum in Boulder. In her view, that raises the possibility that cannibalism, devoid of ritual, occurred at Krapina.

Studies comparing the Krapina bones with those of prehistoric game animals are under way, Cook says.


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KEYWORDS: archaeology; croatia; earlymoslems; fossils; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; milfordwolpoff; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals; protomoslems

1 posted on 04/22/2005 11:36:49 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: SunkenCiv; blam; Fiddlstix

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2 posted on 04/22/2005 11:37:27 PM PDT by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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3 posted on 04/22/2005 11:51:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Monday, April 11, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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To: nickcarraway
ok , so now we know where Abu Musab al Zarqawi gets his inspiration and intelligence.....some parts of humanity
have clearly not evolved beyond the sub-human even to ths day.
4 posted on 04/23/2005 12:04:10 AM PDT by injin
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Re #3

My guess is that they frequently ran out of food. So they had to eat whatever they can find, including dead neighbors. things tend to start out of practical necessity, and then rituals get built around them.

5 posted on 04/23/2005 12:10:16 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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"Researchers went into Krapina Cave, and discovered a cache of Neandertal fossils."


6 posted on 04/23/2005 1:22:05 AM PDT by Daaave (I'm afraid, Dave. Dave, my mind is going. I can feel it.)
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caveman Donner Parties..


7 posted on 04/23/2005 4:18:00 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: nickcarraway

wow, 80 skeletons. Maybe we still have more to find.


8 posted on 04/23/2005 5:57:23 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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It worked for those South American soccer players whose plane crashed in the Andes. (Shown in the film "Alive!")


9 posted on 04/23/2005 9:02:26 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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It worked for those South American soccer players whose plane crashed in the Andes.

Those were rugby players, Ciexyz.

Rugby players eat their dead.

10 posted on 04/23/2005 1:22:21 PM PDT by kitchen (Over gunned? Hell, that's better than the alternative!)
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Re #1 and #5

My guess is, the idea that Neandertal ate other Neandertal is another hydra head of the very weird prejudice against Neandertal, which began in Germany shortly after the first Neandertal remains were discovered in that country -- IOW, that Neandertal wasn't a cannibal in the first place.

The article seems to state that the cut marks originated in some kind of ritual. At Catal Huyuk, in Anatolia, human skulls are found which were anciently covered with plaster and the plaster painted. That 33 acre site was abandoned circa 5500 BC, and has nothing to do with Neandertal.


11 posted on 04/23/2005 1:47:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Monday, April 11, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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To: kitchen
Only Rugby players eat their dead.

I had suspected that.

Now Muttly's spectator sports knowledge is as complete as it needs to be. Hey, education don't take long!

On with my experiments.
12 posted on 04/23/2005 6:08:14 PM PDT by PoorMuttly ("Unleash the Puppets!")
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One of the Neanderthals was apparently wearing a wire the
last time they talked to Hillery! Clinton.
13 posted on 04/23/2005 6:12:39 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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Where there prints on the stone tool...was this simply a self-inflicted fashion statement...was Tyson Chicken directly involved...when did Bush know...?!!!!


14 posted on 04/23/2005 6:38:40 PM PDT by PoorMuttly ("Unleash the Puppets!")
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To: kitchen
"Rugby players eat their dead."

Rugby players eat you while you're running away.

Aussie Rules footies swallow you whole.

Irish Hurley players wait for you to punch them tree times and beat them with a stick and then they eat you.
15 posted on 01/10/2006 12:01:39 AM PST by beaver fever
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The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve

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Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]
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