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Nefertiti's 'Love Affair' With Moses to Hit the Silver Screen
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Posted on 04/08/2005 4:21:11 PM PDT by nickcarraway

CAIRO (AFP) - A Hollywood flick on an alleged love affair between pharaonic Queen Nefertiti and the Biblical Prophet Moses is soon to begin shooting in Egypt, renowned British producer John Heyman has revealed to AFP.

"Nefertiti married perhaps one of the first monotheists in history and the film will tell their story, which logically enough should be set in Egypt" said Heyman on a brief visit to Cairo.

"One can find in the Old Testament that Moses and Nefertiti had a relationship," he added.

The movie will also deal "with the return to the worship of the sun god," said Heyman.

He was referring to Aten -- the radiant disk of the sun -- whose cult was briefly re-introduced by Pharaoh Akhenaten, the 10th king of the 18th Dynasty also known as the "heretic king" for breaking with traditional religion in the 1350s BC.

The cult of Aten is considered by some experts to be a predecessor of modern monotheism.

Scholars generally agree that Nefertiti, often referred to in history as the "most beautiful woman in the world", was Akhenaten's wife.

But few have argued that Akhenaten and Moses may have been the same man, although there is no consensus on their respective dates of birth and death.

Others contend that Ramses II, the third ruler of the 19th dynasty, was in fact Moses while Jews believe the pharaoh king is responsible for their exodus from Egypt.

And founding father of psychoanalysis Sigmund Freud ventured his belief in "Moses and Monotheism", published in 1939, that Moses was in fact an Egyptian follower of Aten that brought the monotheistic doctrine out of Egypt as Judaism when he led the Israelites away from slavery to freedom some 3,300 years ago.

Ahmed Osman, on whose 1990 book "Moses and Akhenaten: The Secret History of Egypt at the Time of the Exodus" the script of Heyman's next film is based, admitted that "my argument is controversial and not widespread among many Egyptologists."

"But I have collected evidence proving that Akhenaten and Moses are the same person, which so far nobody has been able to contest," said Egypt-born Osman who has lived in London for the past 20 years where he studied Egypt's ancient history.

"Egypt's history is greatly ignored by the film industry besides 'Cleopatra' and 'The Ten Commandments' and that's it," said Heyman, referring to the two epic Hollywood blockbusters released more than 40 years ago.

The shoot "will not start before 2006 and locations will be between studios and along the Nile in Upper Egypt," he added.

Although he said it was too early to talk about the cast, Heyman said he had met "several Egyptian actors who are very good and charming, warm and kind".

British director Hugh Hudson, the acclaimed director of "Chariots of Fire," will direct the movie.

Heyman, who produced or co-financed major films such as "Chinatown", "The Rocky Horror Picture Show" and "Marathon Man", is also known for creating the Genesis project -- a scholarly endeavor to put all the Hebrew and Christian scriptures on film.

He also produced "Jesus," filmed on location in Israel in Biblical settings and subsequently translated in more than 850 languages.


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To: OldBlondBabe; cyncooper
If I remember from the 10 Commandments (Charlton Heston), her name was NEFETERI (sp) not Nefertiti. Queen Nefertiti is the one who sports the huge, tall, head gear....

So are these different spellings or understandings of the same person or are you saying it's a different person altogether?

61 posted on 04/08/2005 6:07:34 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: COEXERJ145

It's the same name/character reference as those exotic names are often subject to little variations (witness "Osama/Usama").


62 posted on 04/08/2005 6:09:10 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: COEXERJ145

Nefertiti was definitely a proponent of one God, doubt it for Nefretiri. Not sure how Moses may have figured in with Nefertiti and Akhenaten, if at all. Your post makes me think that the new movie's makers could be mixed up.


63 posted on 04/08/2005 6:10:40 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: HairOfTheDog

I believe they are two different people.


64 posted on 04/08/2005 6:11:35 PM PDT by OldBlondBabe
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To: OldBlondBabe

http://www.womenintheancientworld.com/nefertari.htm


65 posted on 04/08/2005 6:13:36 PM PDT by OldBlondBabe
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To: OldBlondBabe

But that doesn't make any sense. There was opportunity and a relationship with the woman "Nefretiri" who was to become queen.

Was "Queen Nefretiti" later married to Ramses?


66 posted on 04/08/2005 6:14:13 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: nickcarraway

What a freaking moron. A first year egyptologist could tell this guy he was smoking crack.


67 posted on 04/08/2005 6:14:55 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: COEXERJ145; HairOfTheDog
Tales Of Hollywood And The Bible

excerpt:

De Mille's final film the remake of his own The Ten Commandments (1956) took it's toll on both cast and crew. The 220 minute epic involved logistical nightmares from changing Anne Baxter's character from Nefertiti to Nefertiri (De Mille fretted the original name would lead to breast jokes) to attempting to have Charlton Heston as Moses carry actual stone tablets carved out of the real Mount Sinai.

68 posted on 04/08/2005 6:15:47 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper; OldBlondBabe

That it's the same character is the only explanation that makes any sense. Thank you. The link provided spells it yet another way.

I think many of these old names have had a few translations and spellings. After all, she never wrote her name in English.


69 posted on 04/08/2005 6:18:12 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: cyncooper
from changing Anne Baxter's character from Nefertiti to Nefertiri (De Mille fretted the original name would lead to breast jokes)

LMAO! De Mille obviously missed that one of her outfits is partly see through.

70 posted on 04/08/2005 6:18:59 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Just Blame President Bush For Everything, It Is Easier Than Using Your Brain)
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To: COEXERJ145

Well, THAT I never noticed. I guess we know what you were looking at. LOL

:)


71 posted on 04/08/2005 6:20:31 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: HitmanNY
Scripture says the woman he married was a 'Kushite,' that is an Ethiopian woman

Do you have a cite? I thought he married an Arab woman during his exile.

72 posted on 04/08/2005 6:21:21 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (End dependence on foreign oil- put a Slowpoke in your basement)
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To: cyncooper

73 posted on 04/08/2005 6:26:32 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Just Blame President Bush For Everything, It Is Easier Than Using Your Brain)
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To: Squawk 8888

She is explicitly referenced in Numbers 12 - the woman Moses married, the Kushite (Ethiopian).


74 posted on 04/08/2005 6:26:45 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: nickcarraway

Making a film about Moses in an Islamic country is dangerous business. Muslims regard the use of actors to portray prophets to be blasphemy, regardless of content. A lot of them were even madder than Christians when Last Temptation of Christ (boring but not blasphemous IMO) was released.


75 posted on 04/08/2005 6:27:36 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (End dependence on foreign oil- put a Slowpoke in your basement)
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To: OldBlondBabe

THANK YOU! I'm glad someone finally posted the difference in the names. I swear Hollywood just makes up history as it goes along.


76 posted on 04/08/2005 6:28:48 PM PDT by rintense
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To: Cicero
What I'm getting at is that this movie is likely to be more than just another stupid Hollywood bomb. Which perhaps is bad news, since it might be better if it were.

Are you familiar with Bloodline of the Holy Grail: The Hidden Lineage of Jesus Revealed, by Laurence Gardner?

(http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1931412928/qid=1113009261/sr=2-2/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_2/102-5300178-9102536)

Gardner lays out an interesting argument that Moses and Akhenaten (born Amenhotep IV) were the same person. I wonder if this movie will be drawing on this source.

77 posted on 04/08/2005 6:30:23 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat (This tagline space for rent - cheap!)
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To: Squawk 8888

Num 12:1

And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman.


78 posted on 04/08/2005 6:32:47 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: HitmanNY

My Catholic Bible says "Cushite" (with a "c" instead of the alternate "k" you cited earlier, both meaning the same, as happens with these terms).


79 posted on 04/08/2005 6:35:54 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: HairOfTheDog; OldBlondBabe
Nefertiti was married to Akhenaten (Amenhotep), not Ramses, as I recall. Akhenaten, while Pharoah, was a monotheist, and changed Egyptian religious practice to monotheism during his reign. After his death, Egypt reverted to polytheism immediately. Googling seems to say that Moses' time was 100 years later, but he may have been influenced by Akhenaten and Nefertiti's sungod monotheism.

Interestingly, blam posted a thread some time back in which an English Egyptologist claimed to have found the mummy of Nefertiti. She is now no longer allowed into Egypt.

Bust of Nefertiti from another angle. A good looking woman, truthfully.

80 posted on 04/08/2005 6:36:33 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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