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CBS Fires Mapes
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Posted on 01/10/2005 7:02:45 AM PST by 1Old Pro

Report just issues, mapes finally fired


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To: SkyPilot
The only "diversity" CBS does not allow is the hiring of Conservatives.

Oh, yeah.


241 posted on 01/10/2005 8:24:54 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: 1Old Pro

When all else fails, fire a producer.


242 posted on 01/10/2005 8:25:05 AM PST by Manic_Episode (I don't lose my composure in a high speed chase)
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To: Lowcountry

Why is CBS not pursuing legal measures against those who conned them with fake federal documents? The financial harm is beyond calculation and would make any law firm drop all asbestos and Vioxx work with a case as strong as the damage done to CBS and 60 minutes! That is unless they might be afraid of discovery.................


243 posted on 01/10/2005 8:25:46 AM PST by blackdog (Demorat Politician = Those in power who manipulate tribal hatreds for personal gain.)
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To: Lowcountry
Where did the fake memos come from?

I still need to read this thread and read the actually report

But Your's is a very good question

These bogus documents were FORGED military documents

Last I heard ... that is a Federal Crime

244 posted on 01/10/2005 8:26:31 AM PST by Mo1 (Does the distinguished Sen from VT wish to act as our treaty rep. for negotiations with Al Queda?)
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To: SkyPilot

My God.
I wonder if she's single...
I mean, even with daddy's millions...lol.


245 posted on 01/10/2005 8:26:39 AM PST by onyx
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To: Petronski


Well, THAT determination is rather vague, isn't it?


246 posted on 01/10/2005 8:27:49 AM PST by onyx
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To: Mo1
there was a commerical that had reference to the 60 Minutes show that aired like 2 days after

Another confusing factor is that several ads were shown on FNC (all I watch normally) to be commented on as news -- as opposed to running as ads. So sometimes I wasn't clear in my mind as to what was run as an ad and what wasn't. (Didn't Kerry make one ad that he just wanted to show up on the news and not run as an ad at all?)

247 posted on 01/10/2005 8:29:05 AM PST by maryz
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To: Mo1

Just heard this on the way home from the gym.

They read directly from the report and this jumped out:
"Mr. Bush and Senator Kerry....".

Even in their attempt to exonerate themselves, they can't hide their bias. Kerry gets the title while Bush's more important title is ignored. Okaaaay.


248 posted on 01/10/2005 8:29:45 AM PST by Peach
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To: MeekOneGOP

EWWWWWW


249 posted on 01/10/2005 8:29:50 AM PST by jveritas
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To: Petronski

Hackworth is a strong front-runner in the "I wish I could buy him for what he's worth and sell him for what he thinks he's worth" category. I went to his website once (when he was supposed to be breaking some story) -- never have I seen a more shameless display of self-promotion. It was actually embarrassing to look at.


250 posted on 01/10/2005 8:31:33 AM PST by maryz
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To: onyx

I think Hackworth got played. His opinion that "they're genuine" referred to the content, which I bet was read to him. Now, nevermind for a moment how specious that conclusion really is, his quote 'genuine' was being used by SeeBS to imply Hackworth had examined the physical document and concluded it was genuine in form as well as content.


In other words, Hackworth is an ass, but his comments were being used out of context by the greater asses at SeeBS.


251 posted on 01/10/2005 8:31:52 AM PST by Petronski (I'm *not* always cranky.)
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To: 1Old Pro
Brilliant! Let C-BS investigate itself. I bet Ted Bundy wished he had the same leeway. They can huddle like roaches in the dark planning there reaction to being caught and in the end push a couple of scape goats into the light to be crushed but they fail to see the larger picture. CBS has to prove their ability to present the news properly to a nation who has faith in what they report. This is nothing more than a Dinosaur in its death throws unable to come to grips with its inevitable demise. This is not over as they hope it will be, but this will be a slow tortured death enjoyed by the right
252 posted on 01/10/2005 8:32:14 AM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: Peach
Even in their attempt to exonerate themselves, they can't hide their bias. Kerry gets the title while Bush's more important title is ignored. Okaaaay.

Libs seriously have no idea how bias they really are .. they live in their own little box

Well gotta take the kid to school .. if anything big happens, can you please ping me?? .. Thanks

253 posted on 01/10/2005 8:32:35 AM PST by Mo1 (Does the distinguished Sen from VT wish to act as our treaty rep. for negotiations with Al Queda?)
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To: Space Wrangler
but the documents were probably supplied to Burke (the crazy national guard guy--whatever his name is) by the Kerry campaign,

I think his name was Burkett -- confusing because of another Burkett associated with the Swift Vets.

254 posted on 01/10/2005 8:32:54 AM PST by maryz
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To: dead
the Panel cannot conclude that a political agenda at 60 Minutes Wednesday drove either the timing of the airing of the segment or its content.

And they can't conclude that the documents were fake. They are not going to give the FCC any ammunition. How does one go about filing a complaint with the FCC and how many do they have to receive before they will investigate.
255 posted on 01/10/2005 8:33:13 AM PST by oldbrowser (You lost the election...........get over it)
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To: Petronski
I like this part:

Page 97: Discussions about When to Contact the White House.

Discussion is between Mary Mapes, Kathy Sciere, Dotty Lynch and Janet Leissner. One or more of the 3 say Mapes said this about her source:

Asked whether Democrats had been involved in handing over the documents, Mapes said "Texas Republicans of a different chromosone" were her source.
I predict this will become the HIGHLIGHT QUOTE of this report!

LOL!

What's the chromosone, Kenneth?!

256 posted on 01/10/2005 8:34:05 AM PST by Timeout (What's the chromosone, Kenneth?!)
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To: Space Wrangler
the documents were probably supplied to Burke (the crazy national gaurd guy--whatever his name is) by the Kerry campaign,

Should have added this in my previous post: Plausible theory -- didn't they trace those early strongly Kerry exit polls to the Kerry campaign?

257 posted on 01/10/2005 8:34:06 AM PST by maryz
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To: Lancey Howard

I did like the part where Les Monves clearly linked Rather's resignation to his part in the fraud (as opposed to the ever-popular "stepping down to spend more time with his family").


258 posted on 01/10/2005 8:34:20 AM PST by Amore (First, let's kill all the lawyers!)
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To: 1Old Pro
CBS News Division announces new dress code for all employees:


259 posted on 01/10/2005 8:34:31 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Petronski

He volunteered too much opinion.
He's neck deep in this.

Reread where Hack offers up thus:

Second, Colonel Hackworth concluded that, by not taking his physical, then-Lieutenant Bush was “insubordinate” and would have been treated more harshly had he been “an unconnected Lieutenant.”

Third, Colonel Hackworth stated repeatedly throughout his interview that then-Lieutenant Bush was “AWOL” and that a person would have to reach that conclusion when reviewing the documents “unless you’re the village idiot.” Colonel Hackworth appeared to be referring to the fact that he had seen no evidence that President Bush was “present for duty” once he left for Alabama in 1972, although he did not articulate clearly how he reached his conclusion. Finally, Colonel Hackworth concluded that “the bottom line here is – is the abuse of power.” He said that “[I]t’s how people up at the top can . . . lean on the little people.”



260 posted on 01/10/2005 8:34:39 AM PST by onyx
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