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What Is a Dead Language Doing in the 21st Century?
e3mil.com ^ | 12/04/2004 | Sue Reilly

Posted on 12/05/2004 7:12:01 PM PST by nickcarraway

Across the nation, schools are re-introducing Latin into their curricula. While Latin’s visibility is highest in private and homeschool settings, it is mounting a comeback in the public school system as well. This remarkable phenomenon brings to mind our often-ignored connection to the Roman and Greek civilizations of the ancient world.

What Is Old Is New Again

Latin’s stability makes it unique among languages still in use. Although centuries ago its grammar and vocabulary became essentially frozen (thus earning the designation “dead”), this language of the Roman Empire did not disappear — thanks largely to its status as the Roman Catholic Church’s official language and its inclusion in standard school curricula into the 20th century. Only in recent decades did Latin become less prominent. Today, however, Latin is staging a comeback and stirring fresh interest.

One cause of Latin’s revival may be a conscious or unconscious longing for a sense of permanence in a world of accelerating changes and fads of every type. Latin is the ultimate “un-fad,” and is part of the bedrock of Western heritage. Greek, a language of an even older civilization, is receiving renewed attention for the same reason.

There are many signs of Latin’s resurgence: in films (blockbusters such as Gladiator, and The Passion of The Christ), in music (brisk sales in recent years of Gregorian Chant CDs), and in worship (Latin is returning to many Catholic Masses, after decades of absence), and impromptu courses offered in Catholic churches.

Latin offers some very practical benefits that modern educators confirm. For starters, Latin’s historical relationship to modern languages makes it an excellent tool for introducing vocabulary and grammar principles that help students to learn English as well as Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, and French, among other languages. As Fairfax County (Virginia) foreign language coordinator Paula Patrick observes, “As students’ familiarity with Greek and Latin words and word components increase, they learn strategies for understanding new vocabulary they will encounter in all disciplines they are studying.” Laurie Dabbieri, a high school Latin teacher in Fairfax County (where Latin has been taught in high schools for more than 50 years) notes, “Latin re-introduces students to grammar concepts that make their English writing better.”

Latin and Greek open doorways to the ancient Roman and Greek civilizations, and the minds of philosophers and statesmen who created the Western world. Ms. Dabbieri remarked that she sees her students scaling the intermediate and advanced Latin courses with better thinking and organizational skills as they read works by Cicero, Pliny the Younger, Cesar, Virgil, and Ovid.

Our Roman Bridge to the Greeks

Latin’s importance in world history becomes clearer if we consider the predecessors of the Romans — the Greeks, who handed on a civilization, religion, and vast learning of their own. Plato, Aristotle, Socrates, and Alexander the Great are but a few of the Greeks who profoundly affected world thought, ethics, and history.

To understand the magnitude of the Greeks’ knowledge and achievements, consider the example of Archimedes — a Greek mathematician and scientist who lived three centuries before Christ — and his enduring influence on life in the 21st century. Archimedes wrote on and advanced almost every mathematical discipline except algebra. His special interest in geometry laid the foundation for progress in other mathematical and scientific arenas. Archimedes discovered the numerical value of pi and concepts of trigonometry, calculus, and specific gravity, and he studied the behavior of gases and liquids. His achievements accelerated progress that led to modern achievements in navigation, architecture, physics, engineering, agriculture, mineralogy, and hydrostatics.

Archimedes was by no means the only ancient Greek who excelled. The Greeks also left their mark in the fields of medicine (giving us the “Hippocratic Oath,” which defines basic medical philosophy), ethics, literature (such as national epics, dramatic tragedy and comedy), politics (the basic theory and first practice of democracy), and principles of art.

We can only speculate about what drove the ancient Greeks’ curiosity, which obtained so many insights for them and for us, but it is evident that they had confidence in their ability to use observation and deduction to understand the world.

The Romans conquered the Greeks, inherited their legacy, and built upon it. Roman achievements in law, administration, governance, and civil engineering remain in use today. Latin, the language of the Romans, spread widely and served as a conduit for the dissemination of knowledge and culture in the classical world. The precision of Latin, which is rather unforgiving of sloppiness, supported clarity of thought and expression, and served as an Internet-like bridge among diverse ethnic groups whom the Romans encountered in their push to build an empire. In this way, Latin propagated an entire worldview and “can-do” attitude that put the West on the road to modernity.

Why Is Latin Becoming Popular Now?

The Roman Empire was not the last organization to need a common denominator to unite different peoples. Consider Daniels Run and Providence Elementary Schools in Fairfax City, Virginia, which has children from diverse ethnic backgrounds. When the school and parents decided to pursue a Foreign Language in the Elementary School (FLES), it became difficult to agree on an alternative to English. Finally, Latin was suggested and approved. This school now has a partial immersion Latin program for 3rd through 6th graders that has made teachers, parents, and students proud, edified, and eager to learn.

The school’s core disciplines of math, science, social studies, and language arts are benefiting. As Ms. Patrick said, “Because of the interdisciplinary nature of classical studies, and because of the heavily Greek- and Latin-based vocabulary of the content, Latin (along with Greek) is a natural and logical integrating force for the core disciplines. For example, when students study the phases of the moon, they are first taught the Latin root of the word for moon (luna), which is also reflected in the French ‘lundi’ (Monday) and the English word ‘lunatic,’ lunaticus or moonstruck, crazy; and the English word, lunar.

"Celebration of Veterans' Day causes children to ask, ‘What does Veterans Day mean?’ In response, the children learn about soldiers and the word ‘legion,’ which goes back to the Roman word for fortress (the structure of the Roman army) and related vocabulary. In social studies, a legal document is presented with Latin-derived terms highlighted. The program also enables students to recognize Greco-Roman influences in their own world and to compare and contrast ancient Mediterranean civilizations to our own.”

Competition and the search for excellence are driving the resurgence of Latin. Among many observers, there is a belief that much of the radical experimentation that has taken place in society during the last decades, especially in education, has not produced the excellence that was anticipated. There is also a growing desire to make commonsense adjustments. As competition to enter colleges and universities stiffens, students must perform better on college entrance exams, important parts of which focus on vocabulary. Latin helps accomplish this goal.

“Rigor,” according to Ms. Dabbieri, “is the buzzword in education and Latin is considered rigorous. She added that Latin is “academic,” so students who take Latin have an “edge” over other college-bound applicants.

As Bernard of Chartres in the 12th century, Sir Issac Newton in the 17th century, and Stephen Hawking in the 20th century all noted, we stand on the shoulders of giants. By becoming reacquainted with the languages that were such important parts of earlier achievements, we strengthen our capacity today to learn and accomplish new things.

Sue Reilly owned and ran an editorial business outside Washington DC for approx.15 years. She will finish a Masters Degree of Theology from Notre Dame Graduate School of Christendom College this month and has accepted a Director of Religious Education position at Queen of Apostles Church in Alexandria, VA


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To: SamAdams76
What have the Romans ever done for us?

Roman numerals

Roman noses

Roman in the gloamin'

81 posted on 12/05/2004 11:32:47 PM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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To: Citizen James
Latin isn't dead. It's just evolved into a dialect which my son and I speak to each other.

Long Live Pig Latin!

L

82 posted on 12/05/2004 11:34:09 PM PST by Lurker (Beware of the man who only has one gun. He most likely knows how to use it.)
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To: proxy_user
On the other hand, some might say that it continued to evolve like a normal language, until its dialects turned into French, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, and Romanian.
I have read several times that Latin did modernize itself and that there was actually a high form and a low form. The low form being spoken by less educated members of society particularly at military garrisons. In the articles I have read linguists say this explains the differences in several latin based languages. For example Catalan spoken in the north eastern coastal region of Spain has many important differences with Spanish. The verb to eat for example "comer" - spanish and "menjar" catalan, can apparently be traced to this. Catalan developed in a heavily militarized area and Spanish in the more central part of Spain which at the time was heavily involved in mining IIRC and there was a slightly more educated populace.And somehow this carries over to portuguese which often has spellings that resemble catalan (lots of X's for example) I can't really give a source for this stuff since I've never read it on the internet, however I think the book "Barcelona" by Robert Higgs talks a little about it, unfortunately not the most accurate source. Maybe someone else can help out.
83 posted on 12/05/2004 11:49:34 PM PST by freedom moose (has de cultivar el que sembres)
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To: nickcarraway

Thanks for the ping! I'm delighted that Latin is making a comeback in schools today. :-)


84 posted on 12/06/2004 12:00:49 AM PST by nopardons
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To: MARTIAL MONK

Romania. And modern Romanian is nearly pure Latin as it would be spoken in the 21st Century. The Romans left their language in good hands when they conquered Dacia in the 2nd Century.


85 posted on 12/06/2004 1:32:22 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: freedom moose

The surviving Romance languages are all off-shots of Old Latin. Someone speaking one of those languages can understand someone speaking another Romance language with a little difficulty but the common ancestry is easy enough to trace. Speakers of Germanic languages don't have that history behind them. For instance, put English and German side by side and you'll see what I mean.


86 posted on 12/06/2004 1:36:54 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: nickcarraway
This is an amazing article. I am serious when I say that I am constantly thinking about the loss to students (and our society) incurred by our students not being taught Latin in our schools. I took three years of it in junior and senior high and it improved my vocabulary IMMENSELY. When a student learns Latin roots, then adds a knowledge of prefixes and suffixes, he can deduce a very large number of other words.

Latin’s historical relationship to modern languages makes it an excellent tool for introducing vocabulary and grammar principles that help students to learn English as well as Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, and French, among other languages

Indeed.

My mother always said, "You're going to be glad some day that you're studying Latin." Of course, I didn't believe her then, and only took the classes because I wanted room and board during my student years. But she was absolutely, 100 percent right.

If students today don't learn Latin, how can our citizens verify the ancient texts? Uneducated, we are subject to the whims of whichever "scholar" decides to interpret history.

Once Bush's re-introduction of phonics takes hold, learning Latin isn't going to be very difficult for our students.

The precision of Latin, which is rather unforgiving of sloppiness, supported clarity of thought and expression

YES.

One of the main reasons our founding fathers were so well-spoken, and able to write so clearly and profoundly, is that they were thoroughly proficient in Latin and Greek. John Adams called Greek the most perfect language.

87 posted on 12/06/2004 1:51:12 AM PST by GretchenM (Because the wicked never stop, the righteous must work even harder.)
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To: 185JHP

lol I actually understand that hehe


88 posted on 12/06/2004 3:35:07 AM PST by visualops (It's easier to build a child than repair an adult.)
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To: VOA

did you notice the browser page title? pretty funny


89 posted on 12/06/2004 3:35:58 AM PST by visualops (It's easier to build a child than repair an adult.)
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To: nickcarraway

thanks for the ping, here's some related topics:

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90 posted on 12/06/2004 4:05:14 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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91 posted on 12/06/2004 4:05:52 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: Citizen James

Your carburateur is not a bastard?


92 posted on 12/06/2004 4:19:09 AM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: nickcarraway
As a homeschooling family, my 3 sons have had years of Latin. Latin was one of several classes that they took outside the home. It really helped my 2 oldest sons when they took their college tests - SAT, ACT - for the verbal section of the tests. My middle son - took 7 years of Latin - beginning in the 3rd grade. In his last year of Latin, his class translated the Gospel of John from Latin into English and read Julius Caesar in Latin. My youngest son - in the 7th grade is in his 4th year of Latin. He also takes Greek.

And yes - for those who think they "need a life" (hahaha) - they are very well-rounded individuals who enjoy all types of sports, play musical isntruments and have many other interests, as well.

Just my .02 worth...

93 posted on 12/06/2004 4:19:24 AM PST by MasonGal
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To: NautiNurse

Effervescent if your fiddlestix.

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94 posted on 12/06/2004 4:25:31 AM PST by Pete'sWife (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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To: nickcarraway

ILLIGITAME NON CARBORUNDOM


95 posted on 12/06/2004 4:26:46 AM PST by Allegra (14 days until I'm home!)
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To: null and void

Biggus Dikkus? Sillius Soddus?


96 posted on 12/06/2004 4:27:49 AM PST by gortklattu (check out thotline dot com)
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To: goldstategop
The surviving Romance languages are all off-shots of Old Latin. Someone speaking one of those languages can understand someone speaking another Romance language with a little difficulty but the common ancestry is easy enough to trace.
That's right of course. But there apparently was a split at sometime which accounts for spelling similarities between smaller groups of romance languages
97 posted on 12/06/2004 4:29:06 AM PST by freedom moose (has de cultivar el que sembres)
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To: nickcarraway
Precision of thought, and the ability to reach the ablative minimum.

"The bridge built, Caesar crossed."

98 posted on 12/06/2004 4:32:05 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: nickcarraway

I'm going to try to learn it along with my homeschooled daughter in the coming years.


99 posted on 12/06/2004 4:41:02 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: nickcarraway

I figured this thread was about French, personally.


100 posted on 12/06/2004 4:43:03 AM PST by MortMan (On ne voire bien qu'avec la coeur.)
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