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Got these pics from our annonymous freeper in Iraq and he asked that I post them. Interesting pictures of barrels of chemicals. Dupont lists Dimethyl Sulfate as a strong methylating agent with superior reaction rates and high yields, and as a versatile chemical that can be used for a variety of processes in the production of many household and commercial chemicals.

Was Saddam using it for those purposes? Perhaps after looking into it our inspectors felt that way...but the Kurds certainly weren't such a purpose for Saddam's chemicals, and they certainly are what you might call a dual use technology.

1 posted on 10/21/2004 11:45:00 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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FYI.


2 posted on 10/21/2004 11:45:44 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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What is the picture in the upper right corner?


5 posted on 10/21/2004 11:54:19 PM PDT by elizabetty
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You notice the white lettering on the barrel in the first pic, the chemical name and then the letters "UN". Ill bet those barrels were found during the first inspections just after Gulf War 1, so this would be on the list of declared stuff. Im not trying to burst anyones bubble or anything, just dont get too excited, believe me if we found anything the administration would definately get it out there.


6 posted on 10/21/2004 11:55:14 PM PDT by Husker24
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He was mixing the with hydrazine to use as UDMH type of basic fuel for his scuds I believe.......could be wrong as it was just a quick observation in 91.


8 posted on 10/21/2004 11:56:15 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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If more than 5 weapons is an "arsenal" to the Dims.....what the hell are they going to call this?

A nuisance?

9 posted on 10/21/2004 11:56:25 PM PDT by Pistolshot (I now have a permit to exercise a right that shouldn't need any permission)
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But but but...those are old...

those aren't stock piles...

those aren't nuc-u-lur...

those aren't actually sitting in s NY subway system...

/leftist drivel


10 posted on 10/21/2004 11:57:07 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (Al Anbar -- not just another bad neighborhood, it's a state of mind)
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We need close up the shipping labels...!!!


11 posted on 10/21/2004 11:58:02 PM PDT by konaice
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People like to float the "dual use" excuse, but in tyrannical Iraq, was there really a developed industrial base where the civilian use was actually in demand?

-PJ

18 posted on 10/22/2004 12:02:42 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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If you have evidence of something, notify the proper authorities!

Nobody here with a working mind is going to draw any conclusions based on these pictures, which could have been taken in your backyard.

And by the way, what's the point of posting ambiguous pictures here? Can anyone here help you?

A label on a barrel is meaningless alone.

Come on, people.


19 posted on 10/22/2004 12:03:16 AM PDT by Technical Editor
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There is only enough there to kill 1,000,000 people. It's only a nuisance.


22 posted on 10/22/2004 12:05:24 AM PDT by igoramus987
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I've seen things too. Can't really go into detail (because I'm not anonymous), but I don't understand why this isn't coming out. We're all baffled about it on the base where I'm posted.

Stuff is being kept quiet.

23 posted on 10/22/2004 12:05:46 AM PDT by Allegra (They Done Broke My Heart Again...sigh...)
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I got the impression from articles that I have read that chemicals have been found in Iraq, but they were separated in such a way (separate barrels) and could not be called official WMD, but if you mixed them in 5 minutes they would be.

What does your anonymous Freeper know of that?


42 posted on 10/22/2004 12:23:18 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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It has already been clear that the chemicals and other precursors for WMDs have existed in great volume in Iraq all along. What critics of Bush demand to see are vast stockpiles of weaponized WMDs... shells, bombs, deliverable gas, etc. Bush's critics really don't care what the facts are, they just want something to bash him with.. and "NO WMDs" suits them fine. Frankly, I think it is obvious to anyone that has paid attention, that just the stockpiles that would shut them up WERE there... until they were shipped into Syria and Lebanon. The 18 month run up to the war was ample time for Saddam to ship the weapons out. Don't expect any curiosity regarding this aspect of this issue on the part of the Michael Moore wing of the Democrat Party.
43 posted on 10/22/2004 12:26:33 AM PDT by Richard Axtell (Electing Kerry would be national suicide.)
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In the UK, GEWS means "General Establishment for Water and Sewerage" which uses chlorine to purify water.

As for evidence of WMD's, the 700 tons of yellowcake fit my definition, and that material has already been brought back to the U.S., including news stories on it. Ditto for the mass graves that were found in Iraq in 2004 but were causa belli for our war against Serbia in 1999.

45 posted on 10/22/2004 12:28:40 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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These look about as fake as those "Baby Milk Factory" jackets.


50 posted on 10/22/2004 12:39:05 AM PDT by mcg1969
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Jeff, this is mind blowing in one sense, and not surprising in another. The media certainly doesn't want us to see or hear about these things. Please thank the freeper in Iraq, and tell him/her our thoughts and prayers are with him/her.


54 posted on 10/22/2004 12:44:58 AM PDT by ladyinred (The simple lie always conquers the more complex truth. (propaganda))
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Ping


55 posted on 10/22/2004 12:46:12 AM PDT by ladyinred (The simple lie always conquers the more complex truth. (propaganda))
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Here's a link about a movie that came out this month as is going to be shown in theatres across the land about WMD's found in Iraq. Here's the link:

http://www.wmddvd.com/


59 posted on 10/22/2004 12:51:27 AM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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AHEM!
72 posted on 10/22/2004 2:05:04 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (I FINALLY updated my FReeper page! Click on my name and see how you can help our President!)
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I can see where it would be startling for some Americans to see English words on crates in Iraq and so lead people to assume the box is as "authentic" as the baby milk factory sign. But...

Iraq having a history with the British in their heyday, and the king's English being a useful and widely spoken language in trade, I would expect Iraqis to use English on the Brit style of spelling words rather than the American style as well. As you can see they use the Brit form "defence" as opposed to our form, "defense." Knowing already that Iraq used English as well as the official Arabic on its highway signage, seeing English & Arabic labels on shipping materials should be no surprise.

It still looks weird... but can't be casually dismissed for that reason.

As far a chemical precursors go I don't think anyone doubts that Iraq had tons of them- it's just that the press and the extremists have redefined "WMD" to a very narrow term referring exclusively to vast quantites of weapons already armed with fully mixed chemicals, or warheads already fitted with nuclear devices, or vast quantities of biological agents all ready to go.

They have specifically excluded the concept of programs, and with them asked us to dismiss and ignore not only the precursors we have found in quantity, but also the vials of pathogens which could be used to create vast quantities o pathogens which were found in a scientists' fridge, the numerous concealed laboratories and other facilities, the taped conversations of Iraqis trying to conceal their activities, the before and after satellite photos showing activities on the ground, the large numbers of scientists specializing in WMD, the assassination attempts on some scientists, the rather advanced stage of the Iraqi missile development program, the drones, Iraqi scientists' ties to the Libyan nuclear program, the presence of old WMD shells which should have been destroyed were Iraq to be in compliance, the bribery of the press, foreign government officials, UN officials and inspectors etc, etc. (Why bribe inspectors to not see what Iraq supposedly didn't have anyway?)

75 posted on 10/22/2004 2:50:46 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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