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Evidence of WMDs in Iraq - Annonymous Freeper in Iraq
JEFFHEAD.COM ^ | 22 Oct 2004 | Jeff Head

Posted on 10/21/2004 11:45:00 PM PDT by Jeff Head

No Chemical or other WMDs in Iraq?


Here are some pictures from our Annonymous Freeper in Iraq. Barrels of chemicals and other material he has observed in Iraq this year.





Note the picture of the Dimethyl sulfate barrel. This chemical was used as a chemical warfare agent in World War I. Its Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) gives the following information:
This compound is extremely hazardous because of its lack of warning properties and delayed biological effects. It may cause burns of the skin, eyes, and mucous membranes. Eye damage may be permanent. Effects may be delayed occurring hours after exposure. Skin permeation may occur in toxic amounts. Both the fumes and the liquid may produce severe irritation. Inhalation may cause irritation of the nose, throat and lungs. Death may occur from overexposure. Prolonged exposures may cause liver and kidney effects. DuPont controls this compound as a potential carcinogen.

Dimethyl sulfate vapor and liquid is extremely hazardous because of its deficient warning properties (NO ODOR THRESHOLD, LOOKS LIKE WATER, AND HAS ANALGESIC EFFECTS) and delayed biological effects. DMS hydrolyzes to methyl hydrogen sulfate and eventually sulfuric acid and methanol. Skin or eye contact with low concentrations of Dimethyl Sulfate may cause analgesia (numbness). Therefore, the corrosive action of Dimethyl Sulfate may not be readily detected.

Skin contact with Dimethyl Sulfate may cause skin burns or ulceration. Inital effects include itching, reddening of the skin followed hours later by severe blistering. Evidence suggests that skin permeation can occur in amounts capable of producing the effects of systemic toxicity. Eye contact with Dimethyl Sulfate may cause eye corrosion with corneal or conjunctival ulceration. Permanent eye damage may occur. Both the vapors and the liquid can cause severe irritation; upon slight vapor exposure the whites of the eyes turn red (bloodshot).

Ingestion of Dimethyl Sulfate may cause severe irritation of the mucous membranes of the mouth, throat and gastrointestinal tract.

Inhalation of Dimethyl Sulfate may cause irritation of the upper respiratory passages, angioneurotic edema of larynx with hoarseness, difficulty in swallowing; temporary lung irritation effects with productive cough, discomfort, difficulty breathing, chest pain, shortness of breath or cyanosis; or possibly modest initial symptoms, followed in hours by severe shortness of breath, requiring prompt medical attention. In severe poisonings, central nervous system effects may occur which include unconsciousness, cramps or convulsions, and paralysis. Fatality may result from gross overexposure.
Also note the barrel indicating it is some sort of chlorine. Chlorine Gas was also a chemical weapon used in World War I. Crates, barrels and boxes of other stuff as well. I believe the Kurds and the Iranians were familiar with some of this stuff.

No "trace' of WMDs in Iraq at all? You be the judge.


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To: Jeff Head

Off topic, but I'm into your third on the series and if we aren't careful we will have many of those same scenarios. Almost like reading history before the fact.


21 posted on 10/22/2004 12:04:27 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Al Anbar -- not just another bad neighborhood, it's a state of mind)
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To: Jeff Head

There is only enough there to kill 1,000,000 people. It's only a nuisance.


22 posted on 10/22/2004 12:05:24 AM PDT by igoramus987
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To: Jeff Head
I've seen things too. Can't really go into detail (because I'm not anonymous), but I don't understand why this isn't coming out. We're all baffled about it on the base where I'm posted.

Stuff is being kept quiet.

23 posted on 10/22/2004 12:05:46 AM PDT by Allegra (They Done Broke My Heart Again...sigh...)
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To: konaice
Working with the light, contrast, sharpness and then making them a negative image...here's the best I could do:




24 posted on 10/22/2004 12:10:16 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Political Junkie Too

That's right regarding Iraq IMHO...but there is a dual use.


25 posted on 10/22/2004 12:11:47 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Allegra
Are the pictures that are posted here the same kinds of containers and chemicals that you saw? Maybe this is the GOP Halloween Surprise!!

Vampire

26 posted on 10/22/2004 12:12:12 AM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: Technical Editor

The American authorities in Iraq were contacted by the freeper there. He asked that I post them here. I have done so. Simple as that. If you feel there is no value in the thread...the options are pretty straight forward.


27 posted on 10/22/2004 12:13:05 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Except that I happen to know the freeper who sent them and he did take them in Iraq as advertised. Exactly what they mean is up for grabs...but they were taken there.


28 posted on 10/22/2004 12:14:10 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Allegra
I have wondered the same thing. If Saddam Hussein was being so deceitful with the Oil for Food Program, does anybody really think he would "do the right thing" when it came to weapons? He lived in a world were he though he was invincible to outside forces.
29 posted on 10/22/2004 12:14:32 AM PDT by elizabetty
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To: Allegra

I hear you.


30 posted on 10/22/2004 12:14:50 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head
..and they certainly are what you might call a dual use technology.

True enough, and therein lies the rub. Even household chemicals in proper combinations can be troublesome. Maybe they were using the DMS in its fabric softening capability ;^)

The quantities along with their apparent ownership(Ministry of Defense) might be pointing to something untoward, but it's a tough call IMO. Do we know if this stuff was more or less hidden or was if found in some old warehouse with a bunch of other "stuff"?

FGS

31 posted on 10/22/2004 12:14:51 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: Allegra
"Stuff is being kept quiet."


I can only guess, these liberals sure are hell bent on making Iraq a personal mission of the President and not part of this war against terrorists. The liberals have access to "intel" could be that the hunt is still on and by making their accusations are trying to force the President to expose what is going on before the "mission" is completed.
32 posted on 10/22/2004 12:16:31 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Eagle Eye
The pointers, indicators and historical precedence are there for anyone to see. I just wrote a fictional story around it.

Hope you are liking them...spread the word, word of mouth is my best friend as respects the series.

33 posted on 10/22/2004 12:17:35 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Allegra
I've seen things too. Can't really go into detail (because I'm not anonymous), but I don't understand why this isn't coming out. We're all baffled about it on the base where I'm posted. Stuff is being kept quiet.

Why don't you talk to someone about it?

34 posted on 10/22/2004 12:18:07 AM PDT by Technical Editor
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To: Jeff Head
No slap in the face intended. It's just suspicious to see barrels and boxes with chemical names on them without the support of background pictures showing that it was taken in Iraq, but now that a military personell has confirmed this article, it is something that Bush should take advantage of and as I said before, it may be a Halloween Surprise!

Hay Ride

35 posted on 10/22/2004 12:18:21 AM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: Jeff Head
So, just what is the A.S. directorate I wonder?

FGS

36 posted on 10/22/2004 12:20:08 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: ForGod'sSake
That's why I indidcated the part about the dual use. I don't know if their inductry/market was advanced enough to produce the other, household chemicals. My own guess would be no...but I don't know.

I do know that they can be used as weapons...I do know he used such weapons against his own people and the Iranians. He (Saddam) had a clear history in that regard.

As to whether the quantities, quality and state of this stuff warranted calling it a smoking gun...I can't say. Apparently our people thought not. But there was quite a bit of this type stuff found and it does have a dangerous military application.

37 posted on 10/22/2004 12:21:28 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head
The American authorities in Iraq were contacted by the freeper there. He asked that I post them here. I have done so. Simple as that. If you feel there is no value in the thread...the options are pretty straight forward. I'm saying that I cannot judge what's in those barrels, and nobody else reading this thread can. If you think that the military might read this thread, then I would suggest there may be more "straightforward" ways of getting this information to it.
38 posted on 10/22/2004 12:22:00 AM PDT by Technical Editor
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To: ForGod'sSake

I do not know...but am trying to find out.


39 posted on 10/22/2004 12:22:53 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Husker24
"You notice the white lettering on the barrel in the first pic, the chemical name and then the letters "UN". Ill bet those barrels were found during the first inspections just after Gulf War 1,.."

No the UN 1595 is part of a classification system for hazardous chemecals.

International Chemical Safety Cards

40 posted on 10/22/2004 12:23:09 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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