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Evidence of WMDs in Iraq - Annonymous Freeper in Iraq
JEFFHEAD.COM ^ | 22 Oct 2004 | Jeff Head

Posted on 10/21/2004 11:45:00 PM PDT by Jeff Head

No Chemical or other WMDs in Iraq?


Here are some pictures from our Annonymous Freeper in Iraq. Barrels of chemicals and other material he has observed in Iraq this year.





Note the picture of the Dimethyl sulfate barrel. This chemical was used as a chemical warfare agent in World War I. Its Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) gives the following information:
This compound is extremely hazardous because of its lack of warning properties and delayed biological effects. It may cause burns of the skin, eyes, and mucous membranes. Eye damage may be permanent. Effects may be delayed occurring hours after exposure. Skin permeation may occur in toxic amounts. Both the fumes and the liquid may produce severe irritation. Inhalation may cause irritation of the nose, throat and lungs. Death may occur from overexposure. Prolonged exposures may cause liver and kidney effects. DuPont controls this compound as a potential carcinogen.

Dimethyl sulfate vapor and liquid is extremely hazardous because of its deficient warning properties (NO ODOR THRESHOLD, LOOKS LIKE WATER, AND HAS ANALGESIC EFFECTS) and delayed biological effects. DMS hydrolyzes to methyl hydrogen sulfate and eventually sulfuric acid and methanol. Skin or eye contact with low concentrations of Dimethyl Sulfate may cause analgesia (numbness). Therefore, the corrosive action of Dimethyl Sulfate may not be readily detected.

Skin contact with Dimethyl Sulfate may cause skin burns or ulceration. Inital effects include itching, reddening of the skin followed hours later by severe blistering. Evidence suggests that skin permeation can occur in amounts capable of producing the effects of systemic toxicity. Eye contact with Dimethyl Sulfate may cause eye corrosion with corneal or conjunctival ulceration. Permanent eye damage may occur. Both the vapors and the liquid can cause severe irritation; upon slight vapor exposure the whites of the eyes turn red (bloodshot).

Ingestion of Dimethyl Sulfate may cause severe irritation of the mucous membranes of the mouth, throat and gastrointestinal tract.

Inhalation of Dimethyl Sulfate may cause irritation of the upper respiratory passages, angioneurotic edema of larynx with hoarseness, difficulty in swallowing; temporary lung irritation effects with productive cough, discomfort, difficulty breathing, chest pain, shortness of breath or cyanosis; or possibly modest initial symptoms, followed in hours by severe shortness of breath, requiring prompt medical attention. In severe poisonings, central nervous system effects may occur which include unconsciousness, cramps or convulsions, and paralysis. Fatality may result from gross overexposure.
Also note the barrel indicating it is some sort of chlorine. Chlorine Gas was also a chemical weapon used in World War I. Crates, barrels and boxes of other stuff as well. I believe the Kurds and the Iranians were familiar with some of this stuff.

No "trace' of WMDs in Iraq at all? You be the judge.


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Got these pics from our annonymous freeper in Iraq and he asked that I post them. Interesting pictures of barrels of chemicals. Dupont lists Dimethyl Sulfate as a strong methylating agent with superior reaction rates and high yields, and as a versatile chemical that can be used for a variety of processes in the production of many household and commercial chemicals.

Was Saddam using it for those purposes? Perhaps after looking into it our inspectors felt that way...but the Kurds certainly weren't such a purpose for Saddam's chemicals, and they certainly are what you might call a dual use technology.

1 posted on 10/21/2004 11:45:00 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: joanie-f; Dukie; Squantos; JohnHuang2; k.trujillo; Travis McGee; jim macomber; Critter; Lurker; ...

FYI.


2 posted on 10/21/2004 11:45:44 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head

Gee .. that looks like a stock pile to me

But hey .. what do I know


3 posted on 10/21/2004 11:51:35 PM PDT by Mo1 (This Sept 10th attitude is no way to protect our country)
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To: Jeff Head

you got me convinced. But I'm easy


4 posted on 10/21/2004 11:53:18 PM PDT by GeronL (FREE KERRY'S SCARY bumper sticker .......... http://www.kerrysscary.com/bumper_sticker.php)
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To: Jeff Head

What is the picture in the upper right corner?


5 posted on 10/21/2004 11:54:19 PM PDT by elizabetty
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To: Jeff Head

You notice the white lettering on the barrel in the first pic, the chemical name and then the letters "UN". Ill bet those barrels were found during the first inspections just after Gulf War 1, so this would be on the list of declared stuff. Im not trying to burst anyones bubble or anything, just dont get too excited, believe me if we found anything the administration would definately get it out there.


6 posted on 10/21/2004 11:55:14 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: Mo1
No doubt it is a stockpile...and with other boxes indicating they are a part of the "Ministry of Defence".

...but I am sure that the former Iraqi Ministry of Defence was going to use them in the production of other household chemcials. [/sarcasm]

7 posted on 10/21/2004 11:55:27 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head

He was mixing the with hydrazine to use as UDMH type of basic fuel for his scuds I believe.......could be wrong as it was just a quick observation in 91.


8 posted on 10/21/2004 11:56:15 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Jeff Head
If more than 5 weapons is an "arsenal" to the Dims.....what the hell are they going to call this?

A nuisance?

9 posted on 10/21/2004 11:56:25 PM PDT by Pistolshot (I now have a permit to exercise a right that shouldn't need any permission)
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To: Jeff Head

But but but...those are old...

those aren't stock piles...

those aren't nuc-u-lur...

those aren't actually sitting in s NY subway system...

/leftist drivel


10 posted on 10/21/2004 11:57:07 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (Al Anbar -- not just another bad neighborhood, it's a state of mind)
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To: Jeff Head

We need close up the shipping labels...!!!


11 posted on 10/21/2004 11:58:02 PM PDT by konaice
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To: Husker24
Well, this "stuff" was discovered by our military after the current invasion...as to whether it had been previously declared or not, I cannot say.

Iraq was supposed to have destroyed the older wepaons material.

One way or another, dangerous chemicals that have been used as chemical warfare agents in the past were in that warehouse with other boxes labeled "Ministry of Defence" in Iraq.

12 posted on 10/21/2004 11:59:02 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Husker24

If the UN found them in 91, why would they still be in Iraq?


13 posted on 10/21/2004 11:59:36 PM PDT by elizabetty
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To: elizabetty

It's a barrel of something...you can make out the word Chlorine on it.


14 posted on 10/21/2004 11:59:46 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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Oh of course .. I'm sure they were doing a lot of cleaning ... but I don't think it was the house

But again .. hey what do I know ..

I'm just stupid Internet poster who's not as smart as the elite media

15 posted on 10/22/2004 12:00:37 AM PDT by Mo1 (This Sept 10th attitude is no way to protect our country)
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To: Eagle Eye
You nailed it with the last phrase. The chemicals were sitting in Iraq, under Saddam's control, under his Ministry of Defence's control.

I wonder why they were there? [/sarcasm]

16 posted on 10/22/2004 12:01:11 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Pistolshot

A small goose?


17 posted on 10/22/2004 12:01:34 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Jeff Head
People like to float the "dual use" excuse, but in tyrannical Iraq, was there really a developed industrial base where the civilian use was actually in demand?

-PJ

18 posted on 10/22/2004 12:02:42 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: Jeff Head

If you have evidence of something, notify the proper authorities!

Nobody here with a working mind is going to draw any conclusions based on these pictures, which could have been taken in your backyard.

And by the way, what's the point of posting ambiguous pictures here? Can anyone here help you?

A label on a barrel is meaningless alone.

Come on, people.


19 posted on 10/22/2004 12:03:16 AM PDT by Technical Editor
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To: Jeff Head

I feel very uncomfortable about these pics. It seems like a plant by a liberal to leave a rope dangling, hoping that FReepers will hang themselves on it by their comments, making us look like fools when he reveals the true source of these pictures later on. So be cautious. Anybody can take pictures. We should have pictures that can prove that they were taken in Iraq by a "real" FReeper. Notice the handle name of the FReeper was not given in the article. I smell a plant.


20 posted on 10/22/2004 12:04:00 AM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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