Just under a 3 mile shot.
Washington Times Ban sought on .50-caliber rifles
Posted on 07/30/2004 8:17:31 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
I am filling out a survey about gun ownership and have been asked about a .50 cal BMG rifle.
Could you please explain to me what this is and what it's used for?
Thank you
No.
A shotgun is the weapon of choice for fishing, especially for grunion on a full moon.
Years ago we hunted them for days on end up and down the coasts of Earth. Just the three of us.
Good eating if you can find enough parts...
Yes, but nobody presented testimony under oath in a court of law saying that they were, so the Supreme Court couldn't simply accept it as a fact.
So why can't I, as a member of the United States Militia, buy a machine gun in California?
The militia of these free commonwealths, entitled and accustomed to their arms, when compared with any possible army, must be tremendous and irresistable. Who are the militia? are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American...the unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.
- Tenche Coxe, The Pennsylvania Gazette, February 20, 1788.10 USC 311: The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
And aside from that, the first clause of the Second Amendment is not a restrictive clause, but rather an explanatory cause. The Supreme Court recognized as much in the Miller case where there was no dispute as to whether Miller and his fellow defendants were an active part of an organized militia in considering their standing to assert a Second Amendment claim.
And aside from that, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights confer no rights at all, they merely recognize pre-existing natural rights, among those the right to life and liberty, and the inherent right to defend life and liberty that the Second Amendment represents.
Makes sense nowadays with all that video surveillance: any self-respecting holdup man wouldn't want to get within a half-mile of a 7-11...
...I support the second ammendment, but before I can answer if the .50 cal BMG is a fine private citizen gun, I think that it's important to know it's practical usage...
It's practical usage is that it can effectively terminate an enemy of the Republic at the most extreme range under the most difficult conditions.
Given the true purpose of the Second Amendment, I'd say it is a splendid thing for good citzens to have in their possesion.
Useless for duck hunting, but there's nothing about ducks anywhere in the Constitution.
And aside from that, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights confer no rights at all, they merely recognize pre-existing natural rights, among those the right to life and liberty, and the inherent right to defend life and liberty that the Second Amendment represents.
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FR's 'states rightist' contingent flatly deny that we have such natural rights defended by the US Constitution.
If our State has no RKBA's provision in its constitution, we are SOL, according to their brand of 'reason'.
Apparently, unless your State has specifically enumerated a right to be protected, it can regulated, outlawed, or prohibited by majority will or whim.
Weird logic, but there you have it.
Personally I believe every American Family Should be trained and own one!
Seeing as a .50 certainly does limit where a terrorist sniper can hide for cover I agree that having lots of trained civilians capable of effectively using one makes sense, but for everyone to actually own one I think is pushing it.
Military Companies do not arm every soldier with a .50 because they are primarily used as an anti-vehicle weapon. Stop the vehicle and then use M-16's/ mortars/etc. to kill the enemy soldiers.
Now guys like like Texas Cowboy, Eaker and Squantos think that these .50's should come with a young fella to carry it and the ammo, make coffee and clean it when they are done shooting. Kinda like a support maintenance team. LOL
One bullet, fired from this gun and aimed at the sun, will shatter the sun into a million bits of plasma.
It is known as the Star System Destroyer.
You may call me Bawana ...........:o)
Stay safe !
"Hillary's Lovely Legs admits she is ignorant about .50 caliber weapons, but she is not stupid. The stupid do not attempt to learn"
She said I called her "ignorant" and took offense, (I did not call her stupid) but undoubtly she is "ignorant" of the word "ignorant". Hence to the dictionary for meaning of the word "ignorant.
My opinion? Just another wanna be pol with no core beliefs on the subject of the 2nd, just focus group trolling, so can say the right things, to the right people, at the right time. (one thing for the pros, another thing for the antis)
lol.....did you get your answer? This was a 300+ post thread waiting to happen.
I would have called my attorney's office when the cops said get out of your house and told him get me a couple of guys, one to go the Police Department and another one to come down here to control the panicked officers.
Of course they would have their sneaky concealed videos and tape recorders just like the cops have. The next morning, I am confident we would have been in front a judge filing suit.
Your core beliefs on the importance mammalian cell culture are certainly important but not as important as your support of the 2nd, IMO.
I think you are strectching your criticism of someone whom neither of us has ever met just a bit too far.
As she becomes educated about this subject, it is people such as ourselves who will be teaching her. I think your qualifications as a teacher suck because your ignorant students would undoubtably be anti-2nd.
Please tell me how the NFA 1934, the law in question in Miller, can specify a crime, the elements of which include usefulness to a militia, and yet not mention the same.
I would expect the lower courts to rule the law unConstitutional on the basis of infringement of the Second Amendment due to non-mention of the militia connection which the Supreme Court has ruled necessary.
Otherwise, the burden of proof could be moved entirely to the defendant. A person could be charged under this law and convicted for possessing an unlicensed rutabaga after failing to prove that such vegetable was not a short-barreled shotgun.
The laws of this land should not be based on the minutiae of technological developments nor the hysteria of fear derived from a lack of faith in the blessings of liberty. Rather a confidence should be developed in the wisdom of allowing men to act freely as sovereign agents in their own best interests and in a system of justice that holds men accountable for their transgressions against the natural rights of others.
It is wholly unsound and socialist in principle to put any faith in authoritarian assemblages of men to provide security against all the defects of life and the minds of men. The transfer of trust from the individual to the collective authority is a causitive act in sowing evil in the minds of men who would otherwise resist it as it labels men as untrustworthy from the outset. It is an act of unforgiveness. A preemptive presumption of guilt that works as a worm in the brains of men and eats away at their pride turning honor into deceit and virtue into malice.
The more responsibility the government assumes the more responsibility is taken away from the individual. Without responsibilities a man soon forgets that actions have consequences and comes to despise the very mention of the concept. Consequences of actions is a thought that the collective government of continually rotating bureaucrats can not have. Not even a singular authority such as a dictator (being supreme and untouchable) can long hold the thought of consequences or personal responsibility.
Weigh carefully the natural effect of transferring responsibilities from the individual to the state or from lower authorities to higher authorities. The DoI named 'our Creator' as the source of our natural rights. There can be no higher authority than that. All men can rightly claim that they were born with as close a connection to our Creator as any other man and no man or group of men can claim to speak for our Creator on anyone else's behalf. With such great authority invested in every individual it should be with exceeding humility that we deem to cede away a man's personal responsibilities to a council, a Congress, a bureaucracy, a sherriff, a commissioner, a mayor, a President, a judge or to a popular vote.
By presuming men to be incapable of shouldering responsibility from the moment they leave the womb the notion is being ingrained in them that they have no ability to rise above their animalistic urges. Apart from the radical who questions the system itself the only questions for a man raised in this kind of poisonous robotic atmosphere of 'serve the state and the state will serve you' are "what can I get?" and "how can I get away with it?"'
We only need to look to the left to see many such people now, not raised in a fully socialist system yet crying out for one, who operate solely on the self-biased presumption that "I am better than the rest. I know more than the rest. I deserve more than the rest." How many more criminals would we have if such a system were complete. How much more heinous their crimes? We can see it in the crime in the former Soviet Union and in the Balkan states. We can see it in the crimes against Jews in France.
Let me keep whatever arms I choose. Call me to account and punish me appropriately if I misuse them. But please don't treat me like a mental patient, unable to make rational choices, and hope that I'll be thinking of the consequences to come for the actions I commit in this life.
With a proper understanding of the Declaration of Independence, The Constitution and The Bill of Rights, which can readily be obtained by a study of the Founder's own words on their conception, such as the Federalist Papers, it is completely unnecessary to know the specific functioning or uses of any firearm or other implements of war and/or self defense.
You almost had that right, B4.
Replace "fella" with "girl", and you got it.
Actually, I'll do the shootin', totin' and cleanin'.
I want someone to give me a nice back and foot rub after a hard day at the range.
For some reason, Eaker and Squantos haven't volunteered for that duty.
Is it grunion season already? !
Nice to see you and seeker, those were fun times!
Just maybe if you was a good lookin gal instead a burnt ole critter, they might offer to give you that rub down yer lookin for, after a shower of course.
I've never met a guy who wants his woman to smell like burnt powder, Militec or Hoppes when rub down time comes around.
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