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FReep Flash! Kerry flips bird to Swift Boat Vet
FreeRepublic.com ^ | July 26, 2004 10:45 EDT | NonValueAdded

Posted on 07/26/2004 7:50:14 AM PDT by NonValueAdded

News flash from the Kerry Campaign trip in Florida ... as the Kerry motorcade left the hotel, John Kerry flipped the bird to a Swift Boat Veteran Against John Kerry. Our SBV exclaimed "That is what I came here for!"

Evidentially JFK didn't catch TehRAYza's speech last night!


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2004; bush; cheney; civility; democrat; democrats; dubya; edwards; election; france; freep; french; kerry; swiftboatvet; swiftboatveterans; un; us; vietnam
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To: dmz
OK, how does the Barry Farber quote go [inverted] ... "you did not imply what I infer" but I guess I just bridle at being dismissed as not credible, even if I am in fact not credible. Wouldn't you? Again, please define for us what you mean by credible witness. I'm not trying to pick a fight with you, just trying to figure all this out.

My report is hearsay, true. But do we always require sworn eye witnesses? Let's see if I can clarify my report to your standards. In the event under discussion, I guess what I can credibly say is that "a purported Swift Boat Veteran claims that John Kerry or someone that looks remarkably like Kerry extended his middle finger (unknown if right or left hand) in the general direction of the alleged Vet." Better? I report, you decide. Or is that "I assume, you decide?"

But also consider that even if the omnipresent media did not capture the alleged incident, what is the probability that it did in fact occur, especially given the animosity between JFK and the Swift Boat Vets? better than even IMHO.

61 posted on 07/26/2004 9:31:16 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" HRC 6/28/2004)
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To: Chieftain

62 posted on 07/26/2004 9:37:42 AM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to remain silent!!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

bumpy bump


63 posted on 07/26/2004 10:00:32 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: NonValueAdded

Lets see the video.


64 posted on 07/26/2004 10:01:56 AM PDT by HamiltonJay ("You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.")
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

I wouldn't report this story either. It doesn't mean I am pro-Dem.

If I could get the vet, as well as the vet from NC, put them through a lie detector test in which they passed....then I would interview them on the air.

But not before then.


65 posted on 07/26/2004 10:09:06 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: dd5339
Yep you can sure tell that vets and the military in general are "Number 1" in his book...

Ran into one of my VFW/AL acquaintances at KT's this morning.
Asked him what he thought of J.F'n K. (he has 3 P.H. from 'Nam also. Difference is, he has the scars to prove it)..

His answer: "Piece of S--T"
66 posted on 07/26/2004 10:20:02 AM PDT by cavtrooper21 (CQB is a very polite way of describing a gunfight at knifefighting range.......)
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To: NonValueAdded

So flipping birds is also among the flippings and floppings of Outhouse Turkerry. Is there no end to this boy's talents?


67 posted on 07/26/2004 10:44:25 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (I drove up behind a two horse trailer today- at first glance I thought Kerry & Edwards were in town.)
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To: NonValueAdded

Tahreeza= Hillary on steroids.


68 posted on 07/26/2004 10:45:47 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (I drove up behind a two horse trailer today- at first glance I thought Kerry & Edwards were in town.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Needs a pic.


69 posted on 07/26/2004 11:08:05 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Used to be sciencediet (aka Tad Rad) but found the solution)
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To: NonValueAdded

I don't think "dmz" called you a liar - you DIDN'T actually see it, did you?

This is what's called "hearsay."

No doubt true, but hearsay nonetheless.


70 posted on 07/26/2004 11:14:01 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

71 posted on 07/26/2004 11:43:17 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Used to be sciencediet (aka Tad Rad) but found the solution)
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To: NonValueAdded; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

72 posted on 07/26/2004 12:01:48 PM PDT by ppaul
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To: SheLion

He got himself 4 Purple Hearts - one for a "bandaid" cut and skipped out early.


73 posted on 07/26/2004 12:24:33 PM PDT by The Right Stuff
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To: Frank_Discussion
Here's a report from the Winter Soldiers website which tells how Kerry sneaked in early in the morning before the veterans arrived:

I went to Ted Sampley's booth this morning to arrange a wholesale purchase of his anti-Kerry stickers for distribution over the summer. He told me that he heard that Kerry snuck over to The Wall for a photo-op early this morning while it was raining and no vets were around. Sampley immediately went over there and approached Kerry with his hand extended. As Kerry took his hand, Sampley opened his vest to reveal his "Stop Hanoi John Kerry" T-shirt and then said, "Mr. Kerry, my name is Ted Sampley and I'm here to escort you from The Wall." Mr. Kerry's secret service agent then stepped in and Kerry gave Sampley the "Bird." Mr. Sampley's response was, "Very Presidential!"

B. Tony Snesko, BM2
Swift #58,
Qui Nhon, Chu Lai, Da Nang, Cua Viet
June 67-June 68

Kerry gives finger at the wall

Scroll almost to the bottom of the page.

(I believe it was posted on Memorial Day 2004.)

74 posted on 07/26/2004 12:51:30 PM PDT by RottiBiz (Help end Freepathons -- become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
What I really think about John Freakin' Kerry:






75 posted on 07/26/2004 1:11:15 PM PDT by Kitty Mittens
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Whoa ! Isn't this at LEAST the SECOND time he has done this to a Veteran ?


Kerry Fitness Reports in Vietnam Show Him Unfit for Command
(Explodes Central Kerry Campaign Lie)


Kerry’s FITREPs are awash in dings, and some of the reports border on the adverse, particularly his combat FITREPs. The FITREPs convey significant performance problems and suggest problems in conduct, so much so that it is surprising that the campaign chose to release them. This may suggest that the FITREPs held from public view are even more adverse.

In what would customarily be an opportunity for a glowing “swan song” FITREP, the Commanding Officer of USS Gridley (DLG-21) tacitly blasts Kerry on his departure for Swift Boat duty by ranking him significantly below the norm in desirability for virtually every Navy assignment possible -– command, staff, whatever. He is a ship handler who is dinged in ship handling. He is in line for command, but his CO doesn’t want him near the bridge. He is slammed in all performance areas –- most notably and significantly in initiative and reliability. The “nice” narrative emphasizes performance in collateral duties, but in the grades and marks, the CO is telling the selection board and detailer loud and clear that this officer is lazy, unreliable and not suited for command. 3 SEP 68 (W.E. HARPER).






76 posted on 07/26/2004 1:17:13 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Happy2BMe; devolve; PhilDragoo; yall
Whoops ! I meant to include ya'll there. :^)

77 posted on 07/26/2004 1:18:22 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: NonValueAdded; MeekOneGOP

Seriesly? Kerry if F-in up all owver the place?


78 posted on 07/26/2004 1:20:43 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (JOHN KERRY is as much like the WORKING MAN as WHOOPIE GOLDBERG is to GEORGE W. BUSH! - Vote BUSH!)
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To: NonValueAdded
Which of these two outcomes do American voters prefer?

The world that
Kerry's Coalition of the Unwilling
made for the Vietnamese children
BBC photo of DaNang school children at ceremony commemorating the fall of Saigon

The world that
Bush's Coalition of the Willing
made for the Iraqi children.

79 posted on 07/26/2004 1:32:29 PM PDT by syriacus (Vote Kerry-Edwards? No, thanks. I ALREADY have two radical US Senators.)
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To: NonValueAdded

No picture here either, but here's a report on the first instance from http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/5/31/225546.shtml


Monday, May 31, 2004 10:53 p.m. EDT

Kerry 'Flips Off' Vietnam Vet

Former Congressman John Leboutillier reports on a
Memorial Day confrontation between Sen. John Kerry
and a fellow Vietnam veteran:

Democratic senator - and certain presidential nominee
- John F. Kerry gave the middle finger to a Vietnam
veteran at the Vietnam Memorial Wall on Memorial Day
morning, NewsMax.com has learned.

Ted Sampley, a former Green Beret who served two full
tours in Vietnam, spotted Kerry and his Secret
Service detail at about 9:00 a.m. Monday morning at
the Wall. Sampley walked up to Kerry, extended his
hand and said, "Senator, I am Ted Sampley, the head
of Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry, and I am here
to escort you away from the Wall because you do not
belong here."

At that point a Secret Service officer told Sampley
to back away from Kerry. Sampley moved about 6 feet
away and opened his jacket to reveal a HANOI JOHN
T-shirt.

Kerry then began talking to a group of
schoolchildren. Sampley then showed the T-shirt to
the children and said, "Kerry does not belong at the
Wall because he betrayed the brave soldiers who
fought in Vietnam."

Just then Kerry - in front of the school children,
other visitors and Secret Service agents - brazenly
'flashed the bird' at Sampley and then yelled out to
everyone, "Sampley is a felon!"

Kerry was referring to an incident 12 years ago when
Sampley confronted Sen. John McCain's chief aide,
Mark Salter, in a Senate stairwell after McCain
repeatedly offended POW families at a Senate POW
hearing. Sampley, whose father-in-law at that time
was MIA in Laos, followed Salter into the stairwell
and, when they emerged, Salter had a bloody lip and a
broken nose.

Sampley's group, Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry,
has garnered huge national attention and has been
featured in the New York Times, the Washington Post
and on MSNBC's "Scarborough Country." Tens of
thousands of Vietnam vets have registered their
opposition to Kerry through Sampley's group.

Clearly Sampley has gotten under Kerry's skin once
again.


80 posted on 07/26/2004 2:55:15 PM PDT by JLO
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