Split Between English and Scots Older Than Thought

Scottish Press Association ^ | Sun 11 Apr 2004 | Louise Gray

[SunkenCiv]

Traditionally the difference between the English and Scots, Welsh, Irish and Cornish was attributed to the foreign influence of invading forces such as the Anglo-Saxons, Celts and Vikings settling in different areas of Britain hundreds of years ago. But Professor Stephen Oppenheimer of Oxford University, believes the difference originates much further back in history... The professor of clinical sociomedical sciences at Oxford University said the Celts of Western Scotland, Wales, Ireland and Cornwall are descended from an ancient people living on the Atlantic coast while Britain was still attached to mainland Europe, while the English are more closely related to the Germanic peoples of the interior. As evidence he cites genetic data showing the Celts are more closely related to the Basque people of south west France and the Celts of Brittany and Spain, while the English are closer to the Germans descended from the Anglo Saxons... said Britons are descended from the original settlers, rather than later invasions, and as such were already split by the western divide.

[frithguild]

Hilbillies are Scot Irish - you can hear it in the music.

[SunkenCiv]

60,000 threads ago... so, last week... ;')

[SunkenCiv]

Could be, but also some folks really are Scottish and Irish in origin. In part anyway. I've got that. :')

[capt. norm]

professor of clinical sociomedical sciences

That is the perfect job for a liberal.

Not just your typical street liberal, but one who works at it 24/7.

[Pilsner]

How does the professor explain the pre-Celic inhabitants of the British Isles and how they came to be dispossed? The Picts gave up their land voluntarily? Irish history/folklore records the wars the Gaels waged to conquer Ireland from the people who lived there before them.

[Hoplite]

"Make way for Willie!"

[Khurkris]

ay what?...lets shew some propa respect there sonny boy...We Scotts originated the pipes and the high lonesome sound oer the highlands and the moors.

[Khurkris]

Thanks for the Scotts ping.

[SunkenCiv]

Yeah, kinda foolish, eh? "The Book of Invasions" (if memory serves, may have been a different work or works) gives kinda weird cultural details of the various successive people who arrived, and at least some of those were confirmed by archaeology.

George W. Bush will be reelected by a margin of at least ten per cent

[TASMANIANRED]

I'm not exactly sure why, but I'm sure Bush is to blame for something here. He is a divider, not a uniter or so Kerry claims.

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[Conservative4Ever]

Yes, hence the term Orange Irish, as opposed to Green Irish (catholic) Northern Ireland was termed the Irish plantation. Great book on this titled *Born Fighting* by James Webb.

[TheCause]

The trouble with Scotland....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6LusNuhPXc

[blam]

2014 bump.