ABC News: Many Democrats Say Election All But Over

The Note ^ | June 30, 2004 | ABC News Political Staff

[Bonaventure]

Here are the big dirty little secrets about the election, all guaranteed to be true and (almost) all guaranteed to make every one of our sources angry.

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3. A lot of Democrats — including some of the smartest ones we know — look at the latest polling data and claim to think that the election is all but over.

[The Wizard]

Unless maybe he means that they don't think they have a chance of winning.

That's how it reads to me

[colorado tanker]

I think this article pretty well reflects the opinion of Washington insiders, including a lot of Beltway pubbies, that if Dubya can't get his approval rating up out of the low forties he's in trouble.

[CyberCowboy777]

I still think Kerry will take Washington.

Oregon may go Bush slightly, maybe the gay marriage thing will put him over the top. Gore only won by +/- 7,000 vote IIRC.

[HostileTerritory]

Bush already ran a three month campaign of ads in about 18 swing states to expose Kerry's record. It wound up a couple of weeks ago. Big $$$.

[HostileTerritory]

I don't understand why someone who voted for Gore in '00 and now will vote for Bush would lie to a reporter. Lord knows the Bush voters going to Kerry are loud and self-righteous about it; if I'd been a 'RAT in '00 and had been woken up by 9/11 like Zell Miller or Ed Koch, I'd want to help others make the same decision.

Hands down, that was the weirdest and most potentially disturbing item on the list.

[JFC]

I am getting calls daily fron RNC. I give the 15th of every month.

[atomicpossum]

3. A lot of Democrats — including some of the smartest ones we know — look at the latest polling data and claim to think that the election is all but over.

Apparently, my take on this line is different from the first group of posters. It sounds to me like an admission by (unnamed) Democrats that Kerry really hasn't caught on, the Dem spin on things isn't sticking, and big, election-making issues are slipping away from them and going into Bush's corner, and, electorally, Bush is looking tough to beat. It sounds to me like they're admitting it's looking grim for them this November.

[ex 98C MI Dude]

The problem with the 'approval' polls is that they are weighted heavily Dem. SO the idea that GWB has an approval in the 40s is just wishful manipulated thinking.

Rassmusen has GWBs approval on the economy sinking by 4 points, though nothing but good economic news has been heard for the past week+. So, one can take away the idea that the Dems are getting discouraged, and it is affecting their outlook, ie, gloomy. Like their candidate. Very gloomy, woe is us type thinking.

[cmsgop]

Other war Presidents changed VP in the second term. Bush needs to consider that action fast!

Why?

[longtermmemmory]

this should speak VOLUMES for a fraud alert.

Can we start consolodating informaiton about electronic voting machines and how fraud is done?

[lepton]

I don't understand why someone who voted for Gore in '00 and now will vote for Bush would lie to a reporter. Lord knows the Bush voters going to Kerry are loud and self-righteous about it; if I'd been a 'RAT in '00 and had been woken up by 9/11 like Zell Miller or Ed Koch, I'd want to help others make the same decision.

Hands down, that was the weirdest and most potentially disturbing item on the list.

I thought they were making fun of reporters only noticing the one type.

[Sofa King]

"Bush's early attacks on Kerry as a 'flip-flopper' really stuck."

I don't think it was Bush attacks that got him that image. Unlike how Bush has been labeled as stupid, Kerry really deserves his characterization, and it's been apparent enough for most people to pick up on.

[colorado tanker]

I agree there are problems with the polls tilting Dem, but I think we have to be realistic that we're in a real dogfight, with Dubya's numbers reflecting perhaps the most intense media assault against any President in the modern era. I spoke with a pubbie federal political appointee from the Beltway not long ago and he really seemed almost panicky. Of course, that was when Lurch was building the lead that he's now given away.

The economic news is terrific, but public perception of the economy always lags the actual performance. Hopefully that will be turning around by late summer.

[Zhangliqun]

What is it with Democrats always talking about how "smart" they are?

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Really. They do have a superiority complex that reaks of insecurity, huh? If you're that smart, it should be obvious without you having to tell us.

Condi Rice has an IQ of 185 -- a child piano prodigy attending college at age 15 -- but you have to dig this up about her because she won't tell you. (Neither will the media since she's not Hillary.)

[Keith]

not so...
Maine is no cinch.

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[olde north church]

They are going to look pretty damn stupid suing when President Bush takes the state by 7 pts. The Panhandle voters will be in the booth BEFORE WORK rather than after.

[Zhangliqun]

"8. Nearly every political reporter in America is having the same experience — they keep finding Republicans who say they will never vote again for President Bush (over the the war and the deficit, usually) but they have a heck of a time finding anyone who voted for Gore in 2000 who are now certain that they will vote for Bush (and Gore apparently won the popular vote)."

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[Zhangliqun]

"8. Nearly every political reporter in America is having the same experience — they keep finding Republicans who say they will never vote again for President Bush (over the the war and the deficit, usually) but they have a heck of a time finding anyone who voted for Gore in 2000 who are now certain that they will vote for Bush (and Gore apparently won the popular vote)."

Reporters also keep finding buildings on fire, murders, and freeway pile-ups. That doesn't mean we're all about to die.

[olde north church]

From your mouth to God's ears especially if there are patriotic Americans stationed along the perimeter with weapons of every sort to shoot into the burning cities.

[mombonn]

Just my opinion.

I like your opinion!