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ABC News: Many Democrats Say Election All But Over
The Note ^ | June 30, 2004 | ABC News Political Staff

Posted on 06/30/2004 7:16:53 AM PDT by Bonaventure

Here are the big dirty little secrets about the election, all guaranteed to be true and (almost) all guaranteed to make every one of our sources angry.

. . .

3. A lot of Democrats — including some of the smartest ones we know — look at the latest polling data and claim to think that the election is all but over.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; democrats; kerry; note; polls
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The Note fails to explain this cryptic comment, but presumably it means that many Democrats think Kerry has it in the bag because the incumbent is having a hard time pulling above the mid-to-high forties. The conventional wisdom, of course, is that most undecided voters will break for the challenger.
1 posted on 06/30/2004 7:16:56 AM PDT by Bonaventure
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A lot of Democrats — including some of the smartest ones we know

How big is that group?

Two people?

2 posted on 06/30/2004 7:20:14 AM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: Bonaventure

They're so deluded. They'd have better luck in Canuckistan than here.


3 posted on 06/30/2004 7:20:26 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Let 'em get cocky. Then their interest groups will start demanding things even before the election, and the Bush hatred approach will get even more intense.

Frnakly I think they're nuts. Things are only going to get better in the next few months in Iraq (where we're not on the hook anymore) and in the economy, so Bush will head upwards, not downwards.


4 posted on 06/30/2004 7:21:11 AM PDT by Numbers Guy
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To: 11th Earl of Mar

Good point. And how smart are the smartest Democrats, anyway?


5 posted on 06/30/2004 7:21:25 AM PDT by Bonaventure
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To: Numbers Guy

Check out point 6 from today's Note:

6. Bush advisers who are putting all their chips on the Iraq handover leading to an improvement in right track/wrong track and the president's job approval are (semi-)secretly worried that — even if the facts on the ground improve — public opinion and perception will lag and not improve commensurately (and enough) by November to make a difference — a la 41 and the economy in '92.


6 posted on 06/30/2004 7:22:08 AM PDT by Bonaventure
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To: Bonaventure

On the other hand, another one of the points says that many Democrats, Kerry excepted, are pessimistic about the chances of a Dem winning or holding the White House.


7 posted on 06/30/2004 7:22:17 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Bonaventure

If you read the article, you might get the opposite impression. These comments sound similar to the ones from "unnamed Democrats" we heard back in 1984 about Mondale.


8 posted on 06/30/2004 7:22:29 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium . . . sed ego sum homo indomitus")
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The same guys who declared Gore the winner in Nov. 2000.


9 posted on 06/30/2004 7:22:41 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Numbers Guy

Bush is trending up, and the trend is your friend. Go ahead - relax and count your chickens, Kerry.


10 posted on 06/30/2004 7:22:54 AM PDT by RightthinkinAmerican (Democrats aren't playing with a full deck, they only use the race cards.)
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To: Bonaventure
The election isn't over until Dick Morris picks a winner.

....and the other guy will win, of course.

11 posted on 06/30/2004 7:23:22 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I'm glad 70% of Americans aren't Lefties or FR would have to close shop.


12 posted on 06/30/2004 7:23:22 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Go traipsing through the muck over at DU and you'd think John Kerry had already been sworn in. I love to see Dems fool themselves so badly and then get that "What the hell?" look on their face when election returns come in.

I guess they all have short memories. It wasn't that long ago that Terry McAuliffe was promising big gains in the House and Senate, just before Republicans picked up seats in both!

LOL! So yes, Dems, settle in and get comfortable. You've got this one wrapped up. Terry says so. No need to sweat it.

13 posted on 06/30/2004 7:23:55 AM PDT by tdadams (If there were no problems, politicians would have to invent them... wait, they already do.)
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My sense is that this election is going to violate a lot of what passes for conventional wisdom. These are not 'normal times'.

Kerry ranks very low on matters relating to 'trustworthiness'. Bush's early attacks on Kerry as a 'flip-flopper' really stuck. So I think that the undecideds may not break for the challenger in this case.

Finally, this election is event-driven. The calculus could change if there's another terrorist strike.


14 posted on 06/30/2004 7:24:24 AM PDT by Tallguy (Liberals make my head hurt...)
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If a president can slash taxes, knock over two dictatorial regimes and actually capture one of the dictators alive, head off an economic downturn and turn it into a rally, and then get beaten by a boring, arrogant, hyper-rich, spoiled, nancy-boy liberal, then we face dark days indeed.

Don't believe the media. They know this one's all or nothing.
15 posted on 06/30/2004 7:24:26 AM PDT by hemogoblin (The sign said "Mission Accomplished," not "War Over.")
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The conventional wisdom, of course, is that most undecided voters will break for the challenger.

Only if they trust the challenger to step up and tackle the problem that concerns them. Kerry is not promising to do anything about the war on terror or any economic changes that would create jobs. The Democrats have fired all their nukes and Bush is still standing. As more people feel better about the economy, Kerry is gonna be a hard sell to the undecided voters.

16 posted on 06/30/2004 7:24:42 AM PDT by Always Right
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17 posted on 06/30/2004 7:24:52 AM PDT by jmstein7 (A Judge not bound to the original meaning of the Constitution interprets nothing but his own mind.)
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To: Bonaventure

Didn't think it was possible to write so much blather and not say anything! And I thought Howard Kurtz had the record for nonsense!


18 posted on 06/30/2004 7:25:43 AM PDT by OldFriend (IF YOU CAN READ THIS, THANK A TEACHER.......AND SINCE IT'S IN ENGLISH, THANK A SOLDIER)
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To: Bonaventure

In June 1988, Mike Dukakis(*) was up by 14 points over GHW Bush.

In July 1988, Dukakis's lead increased to 17 points.

On Election Day 1988, GHW Bush beat Dukakis by over 7 points.

* - "kakistocracy" - Government by the worst people in the state.


19 posted on 06/30/2004 7:26:11 AM PDT by pogo101
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For some reason, I can't bring up the site to read the rest of the article. [Perhaps my computer is revulsed at the thought of a visit to the alphabt networks.] Does it mention the big uptick in consumer confidence and the continually improving job market?


20 posted on 06/30/2004 7:26:45 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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