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Farming Origins Gain 10,000 Years
BBC ^ | 6-23-2004

Posted on 06/23/2004 4:42:34 PM PDT by blam

Farming origins gain 10,000 years

Wild types of emmer wheat like those found at Ohalo were forerunners of today's varieties

Humans made their first tentative steps towards farming 23,000 years ago, much earlier than previously thought. Stone Age people in Israel collected the seeds of wild grasses some 10,000 years earlier than previously recognised, experts say.

These grasses included wild emmer wheat and barley, which were forerunners of the varieties grown today.

A US-Israeli team report their findings in the latest Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

The evidence comes from a collection of 90,000 prehistoric plant remains dug up at Ohalo in the north of the country.

The Ohalo site was submerged in prehistoric times and left undisturbed until recent excavations by Ehud Weiss of Harvard University and his colleagues.

This low-oxygen environment beautifully preserved the charred plant remains deposited there in Stone Age times.

Archaeologists have also found huts, camp fires, a human grave and stone tools at the site.

Broad diet

Most of the evidence points to the Near East as the cradle of farming. Indeed, the principal plant foods eaten by the people at Ohalo appear to have been grasses, including the wild cereals emmer wheat and barley.

Grass remains also included a huge amount of small-grained wild grasses at Ohalo such as brome, foxtail and alkali grass. However, these small-grained wild grasses were to disappear from the human diet by about 13,000 ago.

Anthropologists think farming may have started when hunter-gatherer groups in South-West Asia were put under pressure by expanding human populations and a reduction in hunting territories.

This forced them to rely less heavily on hunting large hoofed animals like gazelle, fallow deer and wild cattle and broaden their diets to include small mammals, birds, fish and small grass seeds; the latter regarded as an essential first step towards agriculture.

These low-ranking foods are so-called because of the greater amount of work involved in catching them than the return from the food itself.

Investigations at Ohalo also show that the human diet was much broader during these Stone Age times than previously thought.

"We can say that such dietary breadth was never seen again in the Levant," the researchers write in their Proceedings paper.


TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events
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Beer/Meed was the foundation of civilization.

Man was a hunter / gatherer of seeds.

One day he ate some seed that had gotten wet and had fermented.

He LIKED the buzzz / way he felt.

It took awhile for him to connect the dots from the buzzz to the fermentation process.

Then he said to himself, instead of chasing the crops, if I stay in ONE PLACE and plant this stuff I can have all the wet grain I need to get drunk on.

Hummm... D'oh!!!

Instant farmer / civilization.

21 posted on 06/23/2004 6:02:24 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Dog Gone
"especially in the birthplace of civilization, Iraq."

I don't believe that either. (The evidence for earlier civilizations are underwater.)

22 posted on 06/23/2004 6:34:45 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
I normally concur with your posts, and I always enjoy the articles you select to put here. But we disagree on this one matter.

I see goofy stuff in support of Atlantis or other prehistoric civilizations that might be underwater today, but nothing which even rises to the "hmmmm" level for me.

The lone exception to that is the theory about the Black Sea suddenly becoming inundated from the Mediterranean at some point, wiping out coastal communities and serving as the source of the legend of Gilgamesh and Noah's Flood. But the archeological evidence hasn't been found yet to truly support it.

23 posted on 06/23/2004 6:50:00 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
" But the archeological evidence hasn't been found yet to truly support it."

The old shoreline more than 500ft underwater has been found as well as structures around the shoreline. (Ballard)

24 posted on 06/23/2004 6:57:31 PM PDT by blam
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To: Dog Gone
Lost Civilization From 7,500 BC Found Off Indian Coast (See post #18 for possible writing)
25 posted on 06/23/2004 7:00:59 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Well, yes, but that doesn't mean a whole lot on its own. I have no doubt that some prehistoric communities are now below sea level. But that doesn't mean that all the first ones are now covered by water or that they're the oldest.

And I guess folks could argue about what defines "civilization."

26 posted on 06/23/2004 7:08:29 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: blam
I remember seeing that thread, and am surprised I didn't comment on it.

I guess I'll "revise and extend my remarks." In my mind, I place the roots of modern civilization in Mesopotamia, where we have the earliest evidence of agriculture, which I consider the dawn of civilization. Everything else before that was hunter-gatherer even if the people lived in communities. Caves, huts, teepees, stone homes, I don't care. It wasn't civilization until agriculture, in my estimation.

Arguably, it can be considered to have occurred before then. Maybe it was when language was standardized within a large group of people. Not any good way to date that.

27 posted on 06/23/2004 7:19:57 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
"I place the roots of modern civilization in Mesopotamia, where we have the earliest evidence of agriculture, which I consider the dawn of civilization. "

Dr Oppenheimer and Dr Schoch have changed my opinion. (Both have books on the subject). They both think the Sumerians were refugees from Sundaland that went underwater at the end of the Ice Age. (Sundaland is the area around present day Indonesia, etc.)

28 posted on 06/23/2004 7:42:04 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
You're obviously more well-read on the subject than I am because I'm not familiar with either of those books, and I'd never heard of Sundaland until your post.

Did they suggest that Sundaland had mastered agriculture? I have always considered it a no-brainer that agriculture didn't begin in any serious manner until the end of the last Ice Age.

29 posted on 06/23/2004 7:53:16 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Did they suggest that Sundaland had mastered agriculture?

Excuse my bursting in. The Ice age would have been the ideal time, climate-wise, for Agriculture to have developed in the now underwater areas of Southeast Asia. DNA testing repoted by and Myth tracking by Dr. Oppenheimer would lead one to suspect that population density in the Sundaland areas my have been enough to drive people away from hunter-gatherer bliss. Current land based Archaeology indicates that (1) Rice cultivation was introduced to China from the area near Taiwan, which was linked to the mainland (and Sundaland). Also, rice cultivation in Southeast Asia, when found in Neolithic sites, is rather advanced and found in areas where the idealic hunter's life was then still much in evidence due to low populations and abundent game and wild produce.

It does go against much of what we have always thought, doesn't it. This is an incredible find in the Middle East. The two ideas taken together seem to argue for many cradles of civilization -- my pet obsession.

30 posted on 06/23/2004 8:27:59 PM PDT by JimSEA ( "More Bush, Less Taxes.")
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To: Dog Gone
Sundaland

Eden In The East(Yes, there are tall red-headed, blue eyed people involved)

Book Description

A book that completetly changes the established and conventional view of prehistory by relocating the Lost Eden - the world's 1st civilisation - to SouthEast Asia. At the end of the Ice Age, SouthEast Asia formed a continent twice the size of India, which included Indochina, Malaysia, Indonesia and Borneo. The South China Sea, the Gulf of Thailand and the Java sea, which were all dry, formed the connecting parts of the continent. Geologically, this half sunken continent is the Shunda shelf or Sundaland. In the Eden in the East Stephen Oppenheimer puts forward the astonishing argument that here in southeast Asia - rather than in Mesopotamia where it is usually placed - was the lost civilisation that fertilised the Great cultures of the Middle East 6 thousand years ago. He produces evidence from ethnography, archaeology, oceanography, from creation stories, myths and sagas and from linguistics and DNA analysis, to argue that this founder civilisation was destroyed by a catastrophic flood, caused by a rapid rise in the sea level at the end of the last ice age.

From the Author

'Eden in the East'overturns conventional ideas of the origins of western civilization in Mesopotamia. In this book I place Southeast Asia for the first time as the key to the first roots of civilisation. At the same time I provide scientific explanations for numerous, and previously unexplained, cultural links between early Eastern and Western cultures. Notable among these links are the hundreds of myths of a great flood which forced people into boats and left only a few survivors. I can now identify this flood as the dramatic rise in sea level at the end of the ice age that suddenly inundated vast areas of Eurasia. In other words the Biblical Flood really did occur. It had its most disastrous effects, however, in the continent of Southeast Asia - now a lost and half-sunken Eden.

As the Ice Age ended, there were three catastrophic and rapid rises in sea level. The last of these, which finished shortly before the start of civilization in Mesopotamia, may have been the one that was remembered. These three floods drowned the coastal cultures and all the flat continental shelves of Southeast Asia. As the sea rolled in, there was a mass emigration from the sinking continent. These flood-driven refugees, carried their domestic animals with them in large ocean-going canoes in all directions. The networks of sea trade, created by their settlements around the Indian Ocean, fertilized the Neolithic cultures of China, India, Mesopotamia and Egypt.

The Southeast Asian contributions to the building of the first cities in Mesopotamia may not have been solely technological. While they may have brought the new ideas and skills of megalithic construction cereal domestication, sea-faring, astronomy, navigation, trade and commerce, they may also have introduced the tools to harness and control the labour of the farmers and artisans. These included magic, religion, and concepts of state, kingship and social hierarchy.

The evidence:

While most alternative prehistories are based more on speculation than fact, I have found some very solid evidence; and have built on the work of specialists in many fields in addition to my own research, to support a comprehensive new picture. The most solid facts come from oceanographic research of the last decade. It now appears that the great rise in sea level after the last ice age, known about for many years, was not gradual; three sudden ice-melts, the last of which was only 8000 years ago, had catastrophic effects on tropical coasts with flat continental shelves. Rapid land loss was compounded by superwaves, set off by cracks in the earth s crust as the weight of ice shifted to the seas.

Archaeology holds the most accurately dated clues to the past. I have devoted two chapters to archaeological evidence found on coasts and in caves throughout the Indo-Pacific region. All of the technological 'firsts' which signalled man's emergence from the long Palaeolithic era towards the end of the Ice Age come from the Pacific Rim islands. These include evidence of deliberate long-distance sailing and grinding of cereal flour in the Solomon islands from 30,000 years ago. The world's first pots, 12,500 years old, come from Japan. The first evidence that swamps were drained for agriculture comes from the New Guinea Highlands 9,000 years ago.

These snapshots hint at a much older history to the discovery of Neolithic skills in the East. The better archaeological preservation of the later stages of human development in Mesopotamia and Egypt, however, has given rise to the view that civilization started in the West.

I review the evidence of the spoken word in the two linguistic chapters. Experts in the history of language now recognise that Southeast Asia not Europe or West Asia was the centre of language dispersal at the end of the Ice Age. The ancestral language of the Micronesians and Polynesians did not come out of China, as has been recently assumed, but further south over 8000 years ago out of the drowning islands of Indonesia. As the Flood engulfed Indo- China and separated Sumatra from Malaysia the ancestral languages of the Khmers, whose descendants built Angkor Wat, moved west into India.

The most dramatic new findings in this book come out of my own research field. I have published more than 25 scientific papers on the genetic prehistory of the Indo-Pacific region over the past 15 years. Building on my initial work, in Eden in the East I have shown that genetic disorders can be used as people-markers revealing a new view of prehistoric migrations in the Indo-Pacific region. My latest finding, made in collaboration with the Oxford Institute of Molecular Medicine, was published in the American Journal of Human Genetics in October 1998. This paper arose directly out of my research for Eden in the East. It provides compelling evidence that Polynesians and other argonauts of the Indian and Pacific Oceans originated in eastern Indonesia back in the Ice Age rather than in China, as previously thought. This finding alone forces the realisation that the Polynesians' skills of sailing, navigation, astronomy and agriculture had their origins, back in Indonesia, during the Ice Age. Another objective tool that I use to explore ancient East-West cultural influence in the last part of the book is comparative mythology. Uniquely shared folklore shows that counterparts and originals for nearly every Middle Eastern and European mythological archetype, including the Flood, can be found in the islands of eastern Indonesia and the southwest Pacific. Southeast Asia is revealed as the original Garden of Eden and the Flood as the force which drove people from Paradise.

My multidisciplinary approach to prehistoric enquiry has been recognised in the academic fields of linguistics and comparative folklore. I have been invited to present papers on my work on prehistory at international linguistic meetings. This year I contributed a chapter to a book on Flood myths in the Moluccas published by the Department of Languages and Cultures of Southeast Asia and Oceania, Leiden University (Netherlands).


31 posted on 06/23/2004 8:40:17 PM PDT by blam
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......Stone Age people in Israel collected the seeds of wild grasses some 10,000 years earlier than previously recognised, experts say.

Very Interesting.

32 posted on 06/23/2004 8:47:29 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Dog Gone
And isn't it interesting that slavery ended when fossil fuels were discovered...

Guess again there is still a great deal of slavery in world. In the birth place of civilization and humanity no less. Slavery is rampant in North Africa and the Middle East.

33 posted on 06/23/2004 8:53:05 PM PDT by Pontiac (Ignorance of the law is no excuse, ignorance of your rights can be fatal.)
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To: JimSEA
Hi Jim, glad you showed-up. Your memory is better than mine...I will be reading Eden In The East again.

" The two ideas taken together seem to argue for many cradles of civilization -- my pet obsession."

To many similarities...I think there has always been some 'cross-pollination' amongst all the continents over many thousands of years.

34 posted on 06/23/2004 8:53:59 PM PDT by blam
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To: Fiddlstix

I'm always interested in this kind of stuff.Hunter gatherers and the agriculturealists who raised grain to feed larger populations.


35 posted on 06/23/2004 8:54:16 PM PDT by dennisw (http://www.prophetofdoom.net/)
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To: blam
Your memory is better than mine! The Sumerian connection on agricultue and myths is centeral to Eden in the East. The flooding of Southeast Asia would have been finished by about 8,000 years ago. With wheat being cultivated in West Asia 23,000 years ago, a main objection to the idea of this Eden of the East is knocked down (the "They couldn't have had agriculture" objection).
36 posted on 06/23/2004 10:55:44 PM PDT by JimSEA ( "More Bush, Less Taxes.")
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To: blam; Dog Gone

That is interesting. Iraq seems to be one of the candidates for the earliest civilisation. This, coming so soon after the ice age would have to be in the tropical zone, so the options are a few -- the Mediterranean was a lake, and there are theories of there being really old Egyptian kings and really old Sumerian ones. The Indian cities off their western coast are also thousands of years old.


37 posted on 06/23/2004 11:00:00 PM PDT by Cronos (W2K4!)
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To: blam
They both think the Sumerians were refugees from Sundaland that went underwater at the end of the Ice Age. (Sundaland is the area around present day Indonesia, etc.)

But why would refugees from the area around Indonesia go so far as Iraq? Why not south east asia or India or Australia? There were some theories about the Sumerians being Polynesians, though not much proof on that.
38 posted on 06/23/2004 11:02:06 PM PDT by Cronos (W2K4!)
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To: Pontiac

I was speaking of slavery in America. Edwin Drake drilled the first oil well in 1859.


39 posted on 06/24/2004 6:01:30 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: blam

Fascinating. I'm going to order that book.


40 posted on 06/24/2004 6:01:58 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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