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Did OKC bombers join TWA 800 plot?
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Wednesday, April 21, 2004

Posted on 04/20/2004 10:48:07 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

Did OKC bombers join TWA 800 plot?


Posted: April 20, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

In light of what we know now we need to look back at a whole bunch of things that happened in the 1990s to see if there might be an al-Qaida connection and that would include the Oklahoma City bombing and the TWA 800 flight. There may be no connection to terrorism, but boy do we need to take a second look at it.

– Herbert Meyer, Reagan-era special assistant to CIA director, on "Fox and Friends," April 15, 2004

In this generation, no single reporter has done more resourceful legwork than Jayna Davis, the author of "The Third Terrorist." For those who have followed the fate of TWA Flight 800, one of Davis' adventures has particular relevance.

In the summer of 1996, more than a year after the Oklahoma City bombing, the intrepid KFOR-TV reporter received a tip on her unlisted home phone line to check out a certain garage, International Auto Mechanics, located a mile or so north of the Murrah Building site in Oklahoma City.

"The Iraqi soldiers had been seen hanging out at the garage," the caller told Davis, referring here to the suspects that Davis had fingered as helping Timothy McVeigh deliver the fatal bomb. The caller's boyfriend, an illegal immigrant from Mexico who worked at the garage, had started noticing a heavy influx of calls from Iran and London in early 1995.

Then, in February 1995, the new owners shut down the garage unexpectedly and let all the workers go, only to rehire them a few months later, "after the big boom downtown."

The new owners, Davis learned, were a pair of Pakistani nationals, one a full-time student and the other, a New York cab driver. The pair had shown up in November 1994 with $25,000 in cash, bought the garage, and prepaid the lease through August 1995. Before the lease was up, the pair abandoned the business and gave it back to its original Iranian owner, himself a questionable character.

On July 14, 1996, Davis, accompanied by her husband Drew, found her way to the Pakistani student. Unprepared for the interview, he dissembled his way through Davis' questions. He gave no good explanation as to why he would absorb a $25,000 loss and then hand the keys back to the original owner, a man the student claimed had tricked him into buying the shop in the first place. When Davis asked about his partner, the New York City cab driver, the Pakistani student told her that she had better catch him soon as he was heading back to New York.

To her surprise, Davis found the cab driver's name in the phone book. This time, she had Drew, a trained U.S. Army linguist and Gulf War vet with a knack for accents, make a phone call. When the Pakistani cab driver answered, Drew identified himself as "Mohammed" and ascertained that the Pakistani cab driver was indeed leaving for New York City.

In a stunning bit of chutzpah, Drew managed to solicit from the unsuspecting cab driver his New York phone number. When the cab driver started growing suspicious, Drew terminated the call, called the number in New York and asked for the cab driver by name. "He will be here on Tuesday," a man answered with a thick Arab accent. This man, too, grew quickly wary, and Drew hung up.

At 1:17 a.m. on Tuesday morning, July 16, 1996, Jayna Davis got a phone call on her unlisted line. "Jayna, don't try to run away. You're not going to get away with this," the caller growled in his foreign accent. "See you in hell." This was Davis' first and only death threat.

Later on that same day, the Islamic Change Movement issued a threat, this one received at the highest levels in Washington. The group's communique promised an attack of great "magnitude" to embarrass "the foolish American president." The threatened time was "morning dawn."

The next day, July 17, as morning dawned on the Arabian peninsula, and the sun set on Long Island, hundreds of Long Islanders – pilots, fishermen, surfers, vacationers – watched helplessly as flare-like objects ascended off the horizon, zigzagged upward, made last second course corrections and exploded violently in a bright white light. The Serbo-Croatian word for such a blast is "bojinka." Some endless seconds later, TWA Flight 800 erupted in an orange fireball of great magnitude and fell immediately into the sea

That very day, National Liberation Day in Saddam's Iraq, Ramzi Yousef had been standing trial in a New York City federal court. Evidence strongly suggests that Yousef had conspired with Oklahoma City bomber Terry Nichols in the Philippines in the months prior to the Murrah Building bombing. "We do know that Nichols' bombs did not work before his Philippine stay," writes Richard Clarke in "Against All Enemies," "and were deadly when he returned."

Although Yousef also oversaw the first World Trade Center bombing, he was being tried in July 1996 for his role in Operation Bojinka, a plot both to blow up American airliners with bombs and to use planes as missiles to attack American targets.

The independent analysts who have looked at the fate of TWA Flight 800 – and this includes scores of airline pilots, safety investigators, munitions experts, physicists, TWA mechanics, FAA investigators, Boeing engineers and retired military through the ranks of admiral – agree almost to a person that missiles were indeed fired, and that those missiles resulted in the destruction of the aircraft.

Given the restraints on evidence gathering, these independent investigators differ on the details. One school holds that terrorists launched the attack, most likely from the sea and with missiles likely more powerful than the much-discussed Stingers. In "First Strike: TWA Flight 800 and the Attack on America," James Sanders and I advance the theory that U.S. Navy missiles fired at and struck an explosive-packed terrorist plane in close proximity to TWA 800.

Either of these terrorist scenarios would demand a support team. When Jayna Davis heard of the TWA 800 disaster on July 17, she connected it immediately to her death threat and the cab driver's arrival in New York, both on July 16. Horrified at the implications, she had to wonder whether she had actually called the team's safe house.

This connection needs to be explored. If former CIA honcho Herbert Meyer believes that it is worth a "second look," perhaps the 9-11 Commission should oblige him.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bojinka; cashill; conspiracy; icm; mcveigh; meyer; murrahbuilding; nichols; okbomb; okc; okcbombing; ramziyousef; turass; twa800; yousef
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1 posted on 04/20/2004 10:48:08 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
The Clinton administration wanted NOTHING that smacked of a foreign terror attack on US soil... so anything that did was made to "go away" by turning into something it was not.

The OKC bombing was made a domestic militia plot incited by "right wing hate radio".

The TWA-800 shoot down was made into a mechanical Center Wing Tank explosion and the eyewitnesses were marginalized by a cartoon.

The Olympic Bombing was made into a sick man, Jewell, wanting attention ploy.

... and by the time they were caught at it, no one cared to go back and find out who really did all of these crimes.

It really works when the people ultimately in charge of the investigation don't want it to happen, it won't.
2 posted on 04/20/2004 10:54:51 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tagline shut down for renovations and repairs. Re-open June of 2001.)
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To: JohnHuang2
Good article, to be true it would have to be known to government officials both past a present. We surely know THIS administration would never lie about something as important as terrorism.
3 posted on 04/20/2004 10:55:52 PM PDT by jeremiah (Sunshine scares all of them, for they all are cockaroaches)
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To: JohnHuang2
So...Dick Clarke drew a McVeigh/Nichols connection to Al Qaeda. ...... Well?!?

How come we don't hear THIS from the partisan "mainstream" media?

4 posted on 04/20/2004 10:56:16 PM PDT by Tom Pain
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To: rush22
Gee Rush22, I suspect you won't be here very long.
6 posted on 04/20/2004 11:17:56 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tagline shut down for renovations and repairs. Re-open June of 2001.)
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To: Admin Moderator
Now that was quick!
7 posted on 04/20/2004 11:20:12 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tagline shut down for renovations and repairs. Re-open June of 2001.)
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To: JohnHuang2
Great post John - maybe we can squeeze all the "buried" stuff into the light of day.

All I can say is that if John Kerry should (God forbid) become president, the United States in finished! And there will be no chance of a turn-around.

8 posted on 04/21/2004 12:30:11 AM PDT by AnimalLover
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To: Swordmaker
I think you have stated it pretty succinctly.

Red

9 posted on 04/21/2004 12:53:18 AM PDT by Conservative4Ever (EVIL.......thy name is Hillary)
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To: Tom Pain
"So...Dick Clarke drew a McVeigh/Nichols connection to Al Qaeda. ...... Well?!?"

Too bad we need a putz like Dick Clark to shield us from tinfoil. Sure, it helps a little to have a slime ball from the other side back you up, due to all the people who worship the slime ball. Now, to reach the FReeping Thomas crowd:

I believe the hundred + witnesses who saw what could be a missile. That's more convincing to me of what happened than anything Dick Clark says. Then there was the lie about the orange RDX chemical being used to test bomb sniffing dogs. When that lie didn't work, they said, "Uups, it was glue." But that lie was discredited by whistle blowers who chemically tested the orange chemical and found out it was not glue. [Those whistle blowers were thrown in jail for 'stealing evidence'.] I believe TWA 800 was no accident in large part because of some of the Mike Reagan programs I was lucky enough to hear. Then there was that goofy computer simulation that showed the plane falling UP. Give me a break.

Then there was the former head of FAA investigations [or some such leadership role] who said that the jet fuel of commercial airlines was made much safer than people might believe. It's more like kerosene than the jet fuel used for military planes. But he was removed and replaced by a new guy, someone who used outdated charts to 'prove' that it could have been a fuel tank explosion. I saw both men sitting in the same hearing room. The new guy admitted that all this was new to him as he showed the House members charts.

I remember that hearing on c-span a long time ago. Traficant stood up, asked angry questions about the bomb sniffing dog fiasco, and then he said, "Something stinks." Traficant was later put in charge of a special TWA oversight commission and ultimately said that there is no way 'so many federal workers could be wrong'. Traficant, IMHO, was intimidated into backing down. Such a conclusion is lame. The previous conclusion that something stinks was right on target.

And and then there was the call to rewire all the commercial jets. Remember that? Congress tried to shake down the airlines a second time by threatening to have all the planes be rewired. That went nowhere, of course. Just another lie. The rewiring did not take place on anything close to large scale, and there was no major disaster afterwards as a result of bad wiring, except perhaps that plane crash right after 9-11-01 that was supposed to be caused by a flock of birds.
10 posted on 04/21/2004 2:52:34 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Backhoe's Gorelick links: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1117579/posts)
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To: ScaniaBoy; Cooter; eyespysomething; B4Ranch; Alamo-Girl; Triple; MJY1288; potlatch; Shermy; ...
OKC-911 CONNECTION ALERT. Please let me know by freepmail if you want to be taken off this list. Thanks.
11 posted on 04/21/2004 3:07:03 AM PDT by ovrtaxt ( Communism has bowed the knee to Jesus. *** Allah is next.)
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To: JohnHuang2
The pair had shown up in November 1994 with $25,000 in cash, bought the garage, and prepaid the lease through August 1995. Before the lease was up, the pair abandoned the business and gave it back to its original Iranian owner, himself a questionable character.

#1- Buying a car repair business AND prepaying the lease for 10 months with $25,000? Either it was a supremely crappy business, or they got an UNbelievable deal.

#2- Within 10 months, they give it up and GIVE IT BACK to the original owner? Okay.

As a small businessman who used to be in a related field, that simply doesn't happen.

12 posted on 04/21/2004 3:12:33 AM PDT by ovrtaxt ( Communism has bowed the knee to Jesus. *** Allah is next.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
When Jayna Davis heard of the TWA 800 disaster on July 17, she connected it immediately to her death threat and the cab driver's arrival in New York, both on July 16. Horrified at the implications, she had to wonder whether she had actually called the team's safe house.

So, a call to the NYC phone utility should have provided an address to correspond with the number. ?!? No follow up?

13 posted on 04/21/2004 3:23:10 AM PDT by ovrtaxt ( Communism has bowed the knee to Jesus. *** Allah is next.)
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To: ovrtaxt
I wouldn't make that assupmtion. As with OKC, her follow-up probably got her nowhere. But it would be interesting to know. Too bad the author didn't include it as a postscript.
14 posted on 04/21/2004 3:56:40 AM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: JohnHuang2
Here's a "will we finally hear the truth about TWA Flt 800?" bump.

If TWA Flt 800 was shot down by terrorists and that could be confirmed, the news would strengthen the resolve and anger of Joe Public Americana to fight terrorism in general and the war on terror in Iraq in particular. Bush's re-election chances would be enhanced and the Democrats would be viewed with even greater suspicion. And it would give Clinton an even more unforgetable legacy.

15 posted on 04/21/2004 3:59:54 AM PDT by GBA
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To: Nita Nupress
Oh, I'm sure Jayna probably tried to follow it up. My cynical comment was directed at law enforcement.
16 posted on 04/21/2004 4:02:54 AM PDT by ovrtaxt ( Communism has bowed the knee to Jesus. *** Allah is next.)
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To: ovrtaxt
Oh, I misunderstood. Sorry about that.

Now that you brought it up, though, I'm most curious about the follow-up/outcome & just who it was on the other end of that phone.

17 posted on 04/21/2004 4:11:14 AM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Nita Nupress
Maybe Jamie Gorelick knows that too.
18 posted on 04/21/2004 4:14:00 AM PDT by ovrtaxt ( Communism has bowed the knee to Jesus. *** Allah is next.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
flock of birds?
19 posted on 04/21/2004 4:14:57 AM PDT by glock rocks (Please pray for our patriot armed forces in harm's way - and the families awaiting their safe return)
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To: Swordmaker
The OKC bombing was made a domestic militia plot incited by "right wing hate radio".

One doubts that the Iraqis helped bomb the Murrah building...but the Philippino press had a lot of reports about McNichols meeting arab terrorists in Makati (Manila) to learn how to make a car bomb. Heck, they even had comedy skits about Arab bombers at the time...even though two Philippine airlines planes were bombed in the early 1990's (one disappeared, one bomb blew up on the runway thanks to a delay in taking off) and their were well known threats to kill the Pope during his visit to Manila, stopped mainly because the traffic was too dense to get clost to him...

And there are lots of Muslims in Oklahoma...maybe because they came here to study, and stayed and brought their families to live in freedom...

20 posted on 04/21/2004 4:53:57 AM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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