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To: JohnHuang2
So...Dick Clarke drew a McVeigh/Nichols connection to Al Qaeda. ...... Well?!?

How come we don't hear THIS from the partisan "mainstream" media?

4 posted on 04/20/2004 10:56:16 PM PDT by Tom Pain
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To: Tom Pain
"So...Dick Clarke drew a McVeigh/Nichols connection to Al Qaeda. ...... Well?!?"

Too bad we need a putz like Dick Clark to shield us from tinfoil. Sure, it helps a little to have a slime ball from the other side back you up, due to all the people who worship the slime ball. Now, to reach the FReeping Thomas crowd:

I believe the hundred + witnesses who saw what could be a missile. That's more convincing to me of what happened than anything Dick Clark says. Then there was the lie about the orange RDX chemical being used to test bomb sniffing dogs. When that lie didn't work, they said, "Uups, it was glue." But that lie was discredited by whistle blowers who chemically tested the orange chemical and found out it was not glue. [Those whistle blowers were thrown in jail for 'stealing evidence'.] I believe TWA 800 was no accident in large part because of some of the Mike Reagan programs I was lucky enough to hear. Then there was that goofy computer simulation that showed the plane falling UP. Give me a break.

Then there was the former head of FAA investigations [or some such leadership role] who said that the jet fuel of commercial airlines was made much safer than people might believe. It's more like kerosene than the jet fuel used for military planes. But he was removed and replaced by a new guy, someone who used outdated charts to 'prove' that it could have been a fuel tank explosion. I saw both men sitting in the same hearing room. The new guy admitted that all this was new to him as he showed the House members charts.

I remember that hearing on c-span a long time ago. Traficant stood up, asked angry questions about the bomb sniffing dog fiasco, and then he said, "Something stinks." Traficant was later put in charge of a special TWA oversight commission and ultimately said that there is no way 'so many federal workers could be wrong'. Traficant, IMHO, was intimidated into backing down. Such a conclusion is lame. The previous conclusion that something stinks was right on target.

And and then there was the call to rewire all the commercial jets. Remember that? Congress tried to shake down the airlines a second time by threatening to have all the planes be rewired. That went nowhere, of course. Just another lie. The rewiring did not take place on anything close to large scale, and there was no major disaster afterwards as a result of bad wiring, except perhaps that plane crash right after 9-11-01 that was supposed to be caused by a flock of birds.
10 posted on 04/21/2004 2:52:34 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Backhoe's Gorelick links: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1117579/posts)
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To: Tom Pain
Here is the excerpt from Clarke's Against All Enemies, p. 127:

"Another Conspiracy Theory intrigued me because I could never disprove it. The theory seemed unlikely on its face: Ramzi Yousef or Khalid Sheik Muhammad had taught Terry Nichols how to blow up the Oklahoma Federal Building. The problem was that, upon investigation, we established that both Ramzi Yousef and Nichols had been in the city of Cebu on the same days. I had been to Cebu years earlier; it is on an island in the central Philippines. It was a town in which word could have spread that a local girl was bringing her American boy friend home and that the American hated the U.S. government.

Yousef and Khalid Sheik Muhammad had gone there to help create an al Qaeda spinoff, a Philippine affiliate chapter, named after a hero of the Afghan war against the Soviets, Abu Sayaff. Could the al Qaeda explosives expert have been introduced to the angry American who proclaimed his hatred for the U.S. Government? We do not know, despite some FBI investigation. We do know that Nichols's bombs did not work before his Philippine stay and were deadly when he returned. We also know that Nichols continued to call Cebu long after his wife returned to the United States. The final coincidence is that several al Qaeda operatives had attended a radical Islamic conference a few years earliler in, of all places, Oklahoma City.

Source

Other interesting info:

Yes, Clinton and Gore did abandon airport security planning for sake of campaign cash. But worse, they concealed the real cause of the crash, in no small part to justify that abandonment.

In fact, on the same day in September of 1996 that Al Gore sent the airline's lobbyist a letter signaling his intent to roll over, the National Transportation Safety Board reversed its spin and all but ruled out a bomb or missile strike [on TWA 800].

WND

In our book, "First Strike," James Sanders and I make this arguably prophetic comment:

John Kerry seemed to have his sights on Al Gore's Achilles' heel. After the events of Sept. 11, the story of how Al Gore helped subvert the investigation into TWA 800 and undermine airport security may yet prove to be a career-killer. Kerry's "slips" may have put Gore out of the race even before he got in.

Two weeks after advanced copies of "First Strike" started circulating around Washington, Gore withdrew from the presidential race. His withdrawal shocked Washington. It did not shock Sanders and me. We expected it. Kerry plays hardball, too.

While I have your attention, Chris, there is one other person you need to put on the spot. Her name is Jamie Gorelick, former deputy attorney general under the figurehead, Janet Reno. You probably know her. Last week, UPI reported that the high-level 9-11 panel on which she sits "was rocked Thursday by the bizarre revelation that two of its senior officials were so closely involved in the events they are investigating that they have had to be interviewed as part of the inquiry." One of the two was Gorelick.

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See also:

Why John Kerry talks about TWA 800

On Aug. 22, 1996, just a few days before the start of the Democratic National Convention, Ms. Gorelick oversaw a critical Justice Department meeting with the FBI. Immediately after this meeting, as it happened, all serious inquiry into the fate of TWA 800 came to an end.

On the next day, for instance, the FAA began to inquire whether any dog-training exercises had ever taken place on the plane that would become TWA 800. On the same day, as CNN reported, the FBI now claimed publicly for the first time that the explosive residue found along the right wing "could have been brought on the plane by a passenger and was not part of a bomb." Likewise, after the meeting, the FBI would do no more eyewitness interviews, at least not for the next two months. The Bureau only did a handful after that – and all of those for the wrong reasons.

WND

21 posted on 04/21/2004 5:57:37 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Tom Pain
So...Dick Clarke drew a McVeigh/Nichols connection to Al Qaeda. ...... Well?!? How come we don't hear THIS from the partisan "mainstream" media?

FWIW, I've seen a number of "mainstream" references to Clarke's comments on the possible connection.

All of them presented Clarke's position accurately: that he found the evidence suggestive, and remained fascinated by the possibility that there was connection because he was never able to absolutely eliminate the possibility of such a connection.
68 posted on 04/21/2004 6:49:35 PM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas (More of the same, only with more zeros on the end.)
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