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Old Stones Reveal Their Age (New Dating Method: Quartz Hydration)
Wired.com ^ | 4-14-2004 | Amit Asaravala

Posted on 04/15/2004 2:16:20 PM PDT by blam

Edited on 06/29/2004 7:10:31 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

A team of archaeological scientists in the United States and Germany say they have developed a technique to accurately determine the age of stone tools and artifacts between 50,000 and 100,000 years old, a period that has proved particularly tricky to map with other methods.


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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: age; archaeology; archeology; carbondating; dating; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; method; new; old; quartzhydration; reveal; stones; their
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1 posted on 04/15/2004 2:16:23 PM PDT by blam
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To: RightWhale; farmfriend
Looks like they're measuring a layer of sio2?
2 posted on 04/15/2004 2:17:19 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
YEC INTREP
3 posted on 04/15/2004 2:21:04 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: blam
They do, huh?


4 posted on 04/15/2004 2:21:16 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: LiteKeeper
Hmmm, I would have expected some disciple of the Institute for Creation Idiocy to turn up with an "all dating is bogus" rant by now.
5 posted on 04/15/2004 2:23:19 PM PDT by John H K
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To: blam
Could it work on Helen Thomas?
6 posted on 04/15/2004 2:35:50 PM PDT by kdot
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To: PatrickHenry
New dating technique ping! (I'll try anything once.)
7 posted on 04/15/2004 2:40:20 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Faster than a speeding building! Able to leap tall bullets in a single bound!)
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To: John H K
disciple of the Institute for Creation Idiocy to turn up with

Seems to be plenty of idiots here already.

8 posted on 04/15/2004 2:56:55 PM PDT by itsahoot (The lesser of two evils, is evil still...Alan Keyes)
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To: Revolting cat!
You beat me to it!
9 posted on 04/15/2004 3:00:32 PM PDT by stanz (Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
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To: Revolting cat!
Damn, you beat me to it!!!
10 posted on 04/15/2004 3:02:41 PM PDT by RayBob
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To: stanz
Yeah, but you beat RayBob to the "You beat me to it!" post!
11 posted on 04/15/2004 3:05:54 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: VadeRetro; jennyp; Junior; longshadow; RadioAstronomer; Physicist; LogicWings; Doctor Stochastic; ..
What good is this technique? We already know that everything is 6,000 years old.
12 posted on 04/15/2004 4:49:54 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Preserve the purity of your precious bodily fluids!)
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To: blam; *Gods, Graves, Glyphs; A.J.Armitage; abner; adam_az; AdmSmith; Alas Babylon!; ...
Gods, Graves, Glyphs
List for articles regarding early civilizations , life of all forms, - dinosaurs - etc.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this ping list.
13 posted on 04/15/2004 5:37:44 PM PDT by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: Revolting cat!
LOL!!!!!
14 posted on 04/15/2004 6:55:19 PM PDT by stanz (Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
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To: PatrickHenry
What good is this technique? We already know that everything is 6,000 years old.

That explains the food poisoning I got from that ham sandwich I found in the 'fridge.

15 posted on 04/15/2004 7:24:36 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tagline shut down for renovations and repairs. Re-open June of 2001.)
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To: Swordmaker
Your tagline must be getting retro-fit then, eh?
16 posted on 04/15/2004 8:00:57 PM PDT by visualops (Is bad ham spammed spam?)
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To: blam
They are doing measurements withing a layer of SiO2, however they are measuring H2O contained therein. The water bonds to the SiO2; less strongly than a covalent bond but stronger than an hydrogen bond. Apparently, the H2O diffuses inward in a temperature dependent manner.

Types of clay can be dated by heating and measuring the water loss.
17 posted on 04/15/2004 9:07:12 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: blam
Interesting, but I see a problem here:

In comparison, the most popular technique for determining the age of archaeological finds, radiocarbon dating, is only effective for objects that are less than 50,000 years old. It is also limited to organic matter, and therefore can't be used on stone tools or statues. Another technique, potassium-argon dating, works on minerals, but tends to be accurate only when artifacts are between 100,000 and 4.3 billion years old.

[SNIP]

The group verified their theory by measuring the hydration levels on various artifacts with known ages, including Olmec pendants from Mexico and belt buckles from Austria. They also conducted tests on 100,000-year-old objects found on Lukenya Hill in Africa.

Since the half-life of potassium-40 is about 1.25 billion years, which creates a statistically-huge margin of error at 100,000 years ("Potassium-argon dates usually have comparatively large plus or minus factors--they may be on the order of 1/4 million years for a 2 million year old date.": Chronometric Techniques–Part II: Potassium-Argon Dating), this verification sounds necessarily imprecise to me. I'll look forward to seeing the peer review of the article and how this is addressed.

18 posted on 04/15/2004 9:32:06 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Revolting cat!
As soon as I saw the title...

*LOL*
19 posted on 04/15/2004 9:34:16 PM PDT by LRS
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To: blam
I can hardly wait 'till marble inside the Great Pyramid is tested.
20 posted on 04/15/2004 10:52:15 PM PDT by rightofrush (right of Rush, and Buchanan too.)
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