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***Ketchup Boy Only Served For FOUR MONTHS***
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Posted on 02/17/2004 5:59:52 AM PST by The Wizard

We know the media shills for the democrats, but it's about time some one of the VERY FEW honest media get on this point and two others:

We want to know about those famous wounds that he takes credit for......(I'm not saying I would want them, but he is making big claims about his service) but we have a right to see the records.

All my friends had to spend 12 months in Nam....why did ketchup boy only serve 4 months and then come home and fight the war and call those poor guys without deferments baby killers and war criminals

I am telling you my friends, more is coming about what really happened in kerry's war experience, and it won't be a pretty thing to see.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2004; dailyvanity; heinz; kerry; kerryrecord; ketchup; ketchupboy; openkerrysrecords; ussgridley; vietgate; wizardwarning; wizshares
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Two of his Purple Hearts required nothing more than some disinfectant and a band aid.

My son turned down one of those 'band aid' Purple Hearts last April near An Najaf. Seems he took some skin off a finger with his M4 magazine somewhere in a fire fight. He'd been hurt worse playing hockey.

61 posted on 02/17/2004 6:45:34 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: kcvl
Mind you're own damn business!

If he "lobbied" to get a transfer, then I "lobbied" every time I submitted a 4187. Face it guys, we can't say anything derogatory about Kerry's service in Vietnam. He did far more than Bush, while others did far more than he, but he did serve honorably and with valor in Vietnam. You have to give him credit for it, and you have to respect it, lest you disrespect thousands of other soldiers who served there.

However, we can definitely nail him for his attitudes and actions after he came back.

62 posted on 02/17/2004 6:48:02 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: coosamtn
he hot dogged his craft beaching it in the center of the enemy position.

How can it be the center of an enemy position if there is only one enemy soldier?

Had there been more VC (Say in the tree line) beaching your craft would make it a sitting duck for Mortars and rockets.

63 posted on 02/17/2004 6:50:07 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Bush Bot by choice)
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To: tbpiper
I guess your son hasn't been running for President his entire life. Please tell him THANK YOU for serving our country and protecting my family from terrorist.
64 posted on 02/17/2004 6:50:17 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Mo1
I'm pretty sure the 57 overseas plants remark was a joke. She doesn't control Heinz, just her late husband's money.
65 posted on 02/17/2004 6:50:37 AM PST by MediaMole
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To: OldEagle
We can't really fault him for taking advantage of a regulation that allowed rotation after three Purple Hearts.

I agree. But it does seem rather coincidental that these were all minor wounds (two of them requiring only one day off duty, and the other - the only documented one - requiring two days off) and that they happened at a time when Kerry wanted to get out and go back and run for office.

He should release all of his records, something he has steadfastly refused to do.

66 posted on 02/17/2004 6:50:47 AM PST by livius
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To: tbpiper
I would be ashamed to accept it, too. Your son sounds like an honorable man. You must be proud of him.
67 posted on 02/17/2004 6:51:01 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Toonces T. Cat
Thank you for your service!
68 posted on 02/17/2004 6:53:14 AM PST by kayak (Medals do not make a man. Morals do.)
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To: jackbill
He volunteered for Swift boats, which were cruising the coast of Viet Nam - fairly safe.

Um those boats were some of the most dangerouns assignments in 'nam. You were a sitting duck, open target, going up and down rivers full of snipers. Saying that his assignment was safe is re-writing history.
69 posted on 02/17/2004 6:54:09 AM PST by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
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To: NutmegDevil
Yes, in WWII the Quakers and Seventh Day Adventists volunteered in droves to become medics and corpsmen.
70 posted on 02/17/2004 6:54:29 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: The Wizard
Ketchup boy is in a pickle? The more his flunkies proclaim him a war hero, the more I know it's bllsht. He served honorably as did many others who didn't try to parley this into a political career. End of story!
71 posted on 02/17/2004 6:54:40 AM PST by dennisw ("Cuz we'll put a boot in your ass it's the American way" - Toby Keith)
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To: coosamtn
"He said he "laid 50 rounds" into the hootch before Kerry leaped from the boat and dashed in to administer a "coup de grace" to the wounded Viet Cong."

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's it against the Geneva Convention to administer a "coup ge grace" to a wounded enemy. Would this be considered a war crime?
72 posted on 02/17/2004 6:55:07 AM PST by Sgt. Stryker ("Saddle Up, Saddle Up")
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To: mystery-ak
but I always thought that military records were private and had to have the approval of the soldier in question.

I don't know all the details, but it's my understanding these records cannot be released unless the soldier in question gives the request because of all the personal information that would be in the file

Kerry seems to put out a lot of information .. but he won't release his military file

73 posted on 02/17/2004 6:56:19 AM PST by Mo1 (" Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?")
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To: antiRepublicrat
I can say whatever I damn well please about John F. Kerry. My family served this country a hell of a lot better and longer than John F'n Kerry and didn't ASK OR AWARD themselves ANY medals. They also didn't turn their backs on the other soldiers who were STILL FIGHTING while he had his prissy butt testifying (in his best JFK accent) to killing innocent people.

President Bush is fighting a CURRENT and PRESENT war that Kerry has no clue how to fight (unless you consider turning it over to the UN, fighting). I really don't need you to tell me what I can say or think about Kerry.

74 posted on 02/17/2004 6:56:45 AM PST by kcvl
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To: thesummerwind
were you watching Matthews last night?

No. What happened?

75 posted on 02/17/2004 6:57:53 AM PST by syriacus (Would Kerry "have chosen" to go to Viet Nam if he had graduated in 1968?)
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To: antiRepublicrat
Face it guys, we can't say anything derogatory about Kerry's service in Vietnam..........

Yes we can. He has shameless about leveraging this into his political career for decades. I don't respect John McCain either. Get it?
76 posted on 02/17/2004 6:58:11 AM PST by dennisw ("Cuz we'll put a boot in your ass it's the American way" - Toby Keith)
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To: The Wizard
I really think this line of doubt/questioning is a dead end for the RNC & W. No matter what the records say; Kerry will still have proof that he was in combat in VN, received both medals and injuries (no matter how slight), and nothing can change the fact that all of W's service was stateside.

Some things are better left alone - otherwise you just might be highlighting your opponents strong suit & your nitpicking can only be seen as sour grapes.
77 posted on 02/17/2004 6:58:28 AM PST by familyofman
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To: livius
Just doesn't pass the smell test does it?
78 posted on 02/17/2004 6:58:42 AM PST by OldEagle (Haven't been wrong since 1947.)
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To: jackbill
My husband was a Grunt in Nam. He said when the swift boats showed up on the rivers, the Grunts made fun of them. The boats were sprarkling clean. The crew wore immaculent uniforms. The Grunts would throw mud at the boats and call the crew all sorts of sissy names. Hope Kerry was on one of those boats.
79 posted on 02/17/2004 7:00:14 AM PST by raisincane
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
Um those boats were some of the most dangerouns assignments in 'nam. You were a sitting duck, open target, going up and down rivers full of snipers. Saying that his assignment was safe is re-writing history.........

And he was on a swift boat for ........... 7 or 8 weeks ??????? You do the math. He was not on a swift boat all his time there.
80 posted on 02/17/2004 7:00:45 AM PST by dennisw ("Cuz we'll put a boot in your ass it's the American way" - Toby Keith)
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