Moby's anti-Bush tricks (Kerry supporters admit to TROLLING conservative sites to hurt Bush)

The Daily News ^ | 2/09/04 | Rush & Molly

[M 91 u2 K]

Punk the prez?

Moby's anti-Bush tricks

Moby (r.) wants to use gossip to boost John Kerry's campaign.

One of Sen. John Kerry's celebrity supporters is ready to pull out all the stops to get him elected. Republicans are shrieking over a suggestion by rocker Moby that Democrats spread gossip about President Bush on the Internet. "No one's talking about how to keep the other side home on Election Day," Moby tells us. "It's a lot easier than you think and it doesn't cost that much. This election can be won by 200,000 votes."

Moby suggests that it's possible to seed doubt among Bush's far-right supporters on the Web.

"You target his natural constituencies," says the Grammy-nominated techno-wizard. "For example, you can go on all the pro-life chat rooms and say you're an outraged right-wing voter and that you know that George Bush drove an ex-girlfriend to an abortion clinic and paid for her to get an abortion.

"Then you go to an anti-immigration Web site chat room and ask, 'What's all this about George Bush proposing amnesty for illegal aliens?'"

Moby didn't claim that he believed the abortion story.

Last month, Bush did propose reforms to immigration policy. But he insisted, "I oppose amnesty, placing undocumented workers on the automatic path to citizenship [because it] perpetuates illegal immigration."

Republican National Committee spokeswoman Christine Iverson likened Moby's proposal to "dirty campaign tactics we're already seeing from John Kerry."

"His campaign was willing to use these kinds of voter suppression tactics against members of his own party in Iowa and New Hampshire," Iverson says. "John Kerry is a hypocrite. He pledged to run a clean campaign. Then he uses the lowest form of gutter politics to impugn his opponents, Democratic and Republican. It's unfortunate but this is probably just the beginning of the kind of tactics we're going to be seeing from John Kerry in the months to come."

Kerry spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter said, "I doubt that Moby was suggesting anybody suppress the vote. We did not use any dirty tactics against any candidate.

"When it comes to dirty tricks the Republic party wrote the book. We've already seen Republican attacks and we haven't even won the nomination yet. The Republican Party is clearly afraid of John Kerry"

[M 91 u2 K]

I admit that I have been critical of Bush in the past, but I realize that Kerry is a threat to the national security of this country. Bush is not perfect, but no one is, which is why in November we must vote for Bush. If you feel Bush doesn't deserve to be President, then you must feel you don't deserve to live in a safe country that Bush has provided by going after Terrorists. I can gurantee you that Kerry will not protect America the way Bush is, unless of course he gets perimission from the France,Germany,Russia, The UN, Saudi Arabia and all our allies in the Muslim world.

[KantianBurke]

If anyone is stupid enough to have their vote swayed due to something they read on the INTERNET, then this should be the LEAST of their worries.

[r9etb]

Ohboyoboyoboyoboyoboy!!!!!

Moby's awful kind to provide all that free Zot bait -- it's gonna be a fun, fun year.

[TheSpottedOwl]

I hope Moby has plenty of money when it comes time to defend his actions in a court of law.

[Admin Moderator]

Gee, thanks for the heads up. ;)

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

"Then you go to an anti-immigration Web site chat room and ask, 'What's all this about George Bush proposing amnesty for illegal aliens?'"

As I (and others) have been saying, plainly and persistently, since Day One. The pro-liberal agenda 'Rats and replicants have been all over this site, whinnying various and sundry variations of: "... I'm a lifelong Republican, but I've just now decided that George W. Bush is actually [Insert DU or MoveOn Lie Here]."

Jim -- in case you're wondering how best to identify these:

Kerry - 2% (from the current FR poll)

Start the purge there.

[Admin Moderator]

Here's one from this morning:

I'm finding it difficult to maintain my Republican thinking with all the news re: Iraq. It seems Scott Ritter should really be lionized for trying to tell the obvious (now) truth that Iraq posed no threat to the US. Everything he said has been pretty much confirmed and it now appears we were all wrong. President Bush and his administration seem to be back pedaling at an increasing rate and I must say that I'm embarrased for our party. Maybe John Kerry is a viable alternative.

[RebelBanker]

What heads up? I think they heve been here for a while!

[LisaMalia]

Great post! I agree completely.

[Phantom Lord]

What actions of Moby's, or actions he has proposed would be actionable and bring him into a court of law?

[Admin Moderator]

Just joking with you all.

[raloxk]

i am sure Moby's been here.

[RebelBanker]

SPELL CHECK AND PROOFREAD DARN IT!

"heve" = have

[Phantom Lord]

I can not remember who, but there was a poster talking of how he was voting for Kerry because he is a vietnam vet. When pressed to answer who he voted for in 2000, vietnam vet Algore or Presideng Bush the poster disappeared.

[TruBluKentuckian]

Unfortunately, there are many, many people that would believe this kind of garbage. The average person isn't that up to date on things like current affairs/politics/news stories. They get their news and form their opinions on the bits and pieces they hear from other people, including the internet.

The average American ain't too bright.

[Onelifetogive]

This election can be won by 200,000 votes.

This is a startling revelation...

I'm curious, is there a number of votes that COULD NOT possibly be the margin of victory???

[Admin Moderator]

See #7.

[NotQuiteCricket]

So, is this going to be a Stalin style purge? Or are we going for the bulimic/anorexic purging?

[Sabertooth]

"Then you go to an anti-immigration Web site chat room and ask, 'What's all this about George Bush proposing amnesty for illegal aliens?'"

Oh, Moby and I go way back.

Unfortunately for Moby, all of the Democrats have proposed worse Amnesties than the President's, or his "not an Amnesty" Illegal Alien legalization plan would be a lot more damaging than it already is.

Last month, Bush did propose reforms to immigration policy. But he insisted, "I oppose amnesty, placing undocumented workers on the automatic path to citizenship [because it] perpetuates illegal immigration."

Sorry Mr. President, that hair just won't split:

Effect on Illegal Aliens	Reagan Amnesty	Bush Amnesty
Legalizes millions, but not all, Illegal Aliens.	Yes	Yes
Charges a fee to Illegal Aliens for legalization.	Yes	Yes
Initially grants temporary, not permanent status to Illegal Aliens.	Yes	Yes
Provides path for subsequent permanent status for legalized Illegals.	Yes	Yes
Provides path to eventual U.S. citizenship for legalized Illegals.	Yes	Yes
Wasn't officially called an Amnesty	Yes	Yes

Take the Reagan Amnesty Pop Quiz!

[kevkrom]

What actions of Moby's, or actions he has proposed would be actionable and bring him into a court of law?

I can think of a civil issue: libel -- the deliberate publishing of false information in an attempt to defame or otherwise injure.