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Deflation Has Arrived
Safehaven ^ | 01.28.04 | Robert Prechter

Posted on 01/29/2004 8:25:43 PM PST by Beck_isright

"The deflationary potential is historically large... we risk overwhelming deflation in every corner of the globe." - Conquer the Crash (2002)"

Virtually everyone - and I do not use that word lightly - believes that inflation will accelerate. Stock-market bulls think that the economy is going to boom, bringing inflation. Economic bears expect an inflationary, if not hyperinflationary, monetary crisis. Economists believe that the Fed can inflate at will and is committed to an inflationary policy. The general population is convinced that prices of their homes and property can only go up. The few articles mentioning deflation in recent months have declared the prospect for it "dead."

This consensus is not merely overwhelming but reflects a belief as vast and deeply held as a religion. Investment News in September reported a survey by the National Association for Business Economics in Washington. It revealed, "None of the respondents to the May survey, all of whom were responsible for making macroeconomic predictions, predicted a decline in the consumer price index during the next two years." USA Today confirmed the fact, reporting, "Not one economist [of 67 surveyed] said it was 'very likely' the economy would slip into deflation." That is a consensus!

Against this backdrop of opinion, M3 since September has fallen over two percent, its largest decline in 60 years. This is different from a lack of inflation. It is real, actual, deflation. What's more, M3 has declined despite the strongest quarter of economic growth in decades, the lowest interest rates in half a century and a central bank committed verbally and by action to facilitating the expansion of credit! There is no interest rate spike or recession to explain away the decline in the money supply.

The dichotomy between what is happening and what people think will happen is colossal. Inflation is dead. Deflation is here, now. The monetary trend is no longer close to the edge of the cliff; it is beginning to slide down its face. As this is written, not a single major newspaper, magazine or TV network has done a story on the dramatic contraction in M3. People are so drunk with inflationary certainty that they can't even see that deflation is happening. And if they do, they don't believe that it is meaningful.

Why is there such a consensus that deflation is unlikely, if not impossible? Many people believe that the Fed is virtually omnipotent and can manipulate the money supply (and therefore the stock market and the economy) at will. Is that so? On June 25, 2003, the Fed lowered the federal funds rate for the 13th time in a row, to one percent.

Most observers think that the Fed still has that one percentage point of "ammo" left. But consider: The U.S. has a thriving money-market fund industry, which costs one percent of assets per year to administer. As it stands now, investors are getting extremely low returns from money- market funds. If the Fed were to let its funds rate drop to zero and other short-term rates fell along with it, money- market investors' return after fees could go negative. This event would make holding cash more attractive than holding debt, a situation the Fed surely wants to avoid. The monetary system appears to have reached the point at which pesky reactionary forces will come into play if the Fed tries any more "deflation fighting," no matter what the mechanism.

Why did I put the term "deflation fighting" in quotes? Commentators tell us that the Fed is fighting deflation by aggressively lowering its interest rates, but is that an accurate assessment? After all, the result of deflation - its primary outward symptom - is lower prices. And what has the Fed been doing? It spent over a year lowering the price of renting money. Within that period, in fact, the Fed lowered prices more than anyone! It has participated in the initial phase of the deflationary process as if it were a merchant on the street discounting its wares to a disinterested public. It did so in response to slack demand for its product - credit - just as the auto manufacturers and others are doing with their products. Deflationary psychology brings about lower prices, and the Fed has been lowering its prices. It is powerless to stop the trend.

A persistent decline in the money supply will have consequences. Some things will have to give. One of them will be prices for goods and services. To the astute observer, a change in prices has been in the wind for some time. The PPI has been flat for three years, and now even the CPI has had a down quarter. A severe deflation will also devastate the economy, as it has done in each of the rare times it has occurred over the past 300 years. With M3 dropping, it should be only a matter of months before the economy follows suit.

Are economists concerned? Well, besides the deflation opinion cited above from last year's polls, the only other time that I have ever seen a 100-percent consensus in a survey was... a few weeks ago! In separate year-end surveys of economists, The Wall Street Journal and Business Week independently reported unanimity that the U.S. economy would expand throughout 2004. That's right: not one dissenter. If it is usually wise to bet against a large majority in finance, what does it mean when there is no detectable minority?

I think that the continual denials that deflation can happen, against a backdrop of evidence to the contrary, appear to be part of a typical social psychological progression toward a credit crisis, which in turn will lead to economic contraction. The money supply might rebound for a quarter or two as the stock market and economy top out this year, but at the largest degree of trend, the credit bubble - 70 years in the making - has burst.

In 2001, there was little talk of deflation. Statistics relating to newspaper stories show that by late 2002/early 2003, it had become a commonly used word, even if most writers used it simply to dismiss the idea.

The next word that should begin to slide into the public lexicon is depression. I would like to offer quotes from authorities on the low likelihood of depression, but my diligent staff can find literally no mainstream economists, academics or Wall Street strategists even discussing the possibility. It is too remote even to mention! The term " depression" is where the word "deflation" was a few years ago, i.e., outside the general consciousness. Although no one is using that term now, in coming years it will be everywhere. The first phase will be widespread insistence that a depression can't happen, which will be a big clue that it is happening.

The two "d" words at the end of the subtitle to Conquer the Crash, i.e., "Deflationary Depression," were anticipatory. The book was published at a time when the likelihood of these two events occurring was (and still is) considered - as one economist said at the time about deflation - as remote as "being eaten by piranhas." My advice: Keep your toes on the riverbank.


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Against this backdrop of opinion, M3 since September has fallen over two percent, its largest decline in 60 years. This is different from a lack of inflation. It is real, actual, deflation. What's more, M3 has declined despite the strongest quarter of economic growth in decades, the lowest interest rates in half a century and a central bank committed verbally and by action to facilitating the expansion of credit! There is no interest rate spike or recession to explain away the decline in the money supply.

And so my 2005 prediction looks wiser by the day. Keep your powder dry folks. This will NOT be like any other event in recorded history.
1 posted on 01/29/2004 8:25:46 PM PST by Beck_isright
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To: arete; Tauzero; imawit; Dukie; Matchett-PI; Moonman62; Free Vulcan; Wyatt's Torch; Huck; ken5050; ..
A very important PING........
2 posted on 01/29/2004 8:26:56 PM PST by Beck_isright (" I cannot vote for a liberal whatever his party label happens to be."-Lazamataz, FR 2004)
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To: Soren
Sorry...forgot to ping you also....
3 posted on 01/29/2004 8:28:48 PM PST by Beck_isright (" I cannot vote for a liberal whatever his party label happens to be."-Lazamataz, FR 2004)
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To: Beck_isright
LMAO.

Inflation -- practical, real live, what one pays for goods inflation, higher and higher, is here right this second. And the general cause (there are exceptions) is the USD's gross near-collapse over the past two years.

Of the goods priced internationally in USD, every single one of them has risen in price, on a currency-adjusted basis. Even coffee, which is in general oversupply worldwide, and has been since 2000.

Roll up a fat one, Beck -- might as well, you haven't a clue otherwise (AND, I'm entirely willing to present very hard price data to demonstrate this point, at your convenience).

Never trade mkts if your trading ideas are based on your politico-economic views. Seek the (always available) statistical advantage, instead.

Feel completely free to disregard or denigrate this particular view here. I can use the money (g!).

4 posted on 01/29/2004 8:47:38 PM PST by SAJ
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To: SAJ
" Feel completely free to disregard or denigrate this particular view here. I can use the money (g!)."

I shall. I stand by my prediction that the Dow will reach 11,000 by the election. I stand by my prediction that the Fed will CUT rates by August to 0.75% on the Fed Funds Rate. I also hope you do not wish to get into a statistical battle, because I will whallop you with charts and statistics which show that raw material inflation (commodity inflation) will continue, but against the backdrop of wage and ROI deflation, you will see the long term trends. I shall not try to convert you. If you're opinions are that hardened, then fine. If you think I'm approaching this from a political point of view, then you've missed the points of my hundreds of postings; I prefer to take a historical point of view. And your posting indicates a rather liberal approach to this article without looking at the historical ramifications of the economic data which has been released in the last 2,4,10,12, or 20 quarters.
5 posted on 01/29/2004 8:52:36 PM PST by Beck_isright (" I cannot vote for a liberal whatever his party label happens to be."-Lazamataz, FR 2004)
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To: SAJ
Does anyone have any learning on what happens to gold in times of deflation?
6 posted on 01/29/2004 8:52:45 PM PST by Iconoclast2
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To: SAJ

7 posted on 01/29/2004 8:54:49 PM PST by Beck_isright (" I cannot vote for a liberal whatever his party label happens to be."-Lazamataz, FR 2004)
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To: Iconoclast2
"Does anyone have any learning on what happens to gold in times of deflation?"

It becomes the de facto currency of choice.
8 posted on 01/29/2004 8:55:26 PM PST by Beck_isright (" I cannot vote for a liberal whatever his party label happens to be."-Lazamataz, FR 2004)
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To: Beck_isright
Deflation has arrived...

Don't worry, it happens to most men one time or another, and it's not permanent. It is suggested that if deflation continues, go see a doctor.

9 posted on 01/29/2004 8:56:21 PM PST by CommandoFrank (Peer into the depths of hell and there is the face of Islam!)
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To: Beck_isright
Most observers think that the Fed still has that one percentage point of "ammo" left.

The timing of Robert Prechter's article, theorizing that the Fed is trying to inflate but can't do it because there's no room left for it to cut interest rates, has to be rather embarrassing to him. On the same day, the Federal Reserve issued hints that it will soon raise interest rates.

If the government didn't inflate the money supply in the first place, deflation would be a normal and highly desirable economic condition. When productivity improves, and more and better products and services are made available, competition will naturally drive down prices. That's what we've seen for years with computers and DVD players and cell phones and all kinds of other high-tech products. Quality and capabilities go up while prices plummet, and everyone benefits.

I love deflation.

10 posted on 01/29/2004 9:00:04 PM PST by dpwiener
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To: Beck_isright
And so my 2005 prediction looks wiser by the day. Keep your powder dry folks. This will NOT be like any other event in recorded history.

Deflation is sitting just below the surface and has been. It has only been kept at bay by the FED's and government's ability to massively expand debt. There are limits and I think that we are getting close to them. Without debt expansion, the deflatinary monster is going to eat us and everything in sight. More helicopter money from the government coming soon. After that, turn off the lights cause the party is over.

Richard W.

11 posted on 01/29/2004 9:04:19 PM PST by arete (Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.)
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To: dpwiener
"The timing of Robert Prechter's article, theorizing that the Fed is trying to inflate but can't do it because there's no room left for it to cut interest rates, has to be rather embarrassing to him."

Agreed. I think they can and will cut, this time for socio-political rather than practical economic reasons. Not until this summer, but they will cut again to 0.75% on the Fed Funds rate.

"If the government didn't inflate the money supply in the first place, deflation would be a normal and highly desirable economic condition."

The problem is, as M3 is illustrating, is that the money is going into a proverbial black hole, to pay off interest on top of interest of consumer, corporate and government debt. Normally I would agree with your comment, but in this case the consumer and corporate debt is at a level which surpasses those of 1931 on a per capita/percentage basis (360% plus of GDP for 2003 per CNBC).

"When productivity improves, and more and better products and services are made available, competition will naturally drive down prices."

Again valid, except the value of the improvements are not being added to the American economy but the "global" economy. Thus why Prechter might indirectly be on to something.

"That's what we've seen for years with computers and DVD players and cell phones and all kinds of other high-tech products. Quality and capabilities go up while prices plummet, and everyone benefits."

Uh, no. We've found substandard non-American labor sources instead of innovating. Instead of improving our own economy, we've financed the use of third world labor to build the widgets. When we should have been building robotic widgets to make better widgets here at home.
12 posted on 01/29/2004 9:06:42 PM PST by Beck_isright (" I cannot vote for a liberal whatever his party label happens to be."-Lazamataz, FR 2004)
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To: Beck_isright

You fool! You blew my cover!

13 posted on 01/29/2004 9:07:42 PM PST by Tauzero (A slight squeeze on the hooter is an excellent safety precaution)
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To: arete
I find the statistics of M3 horrifying. I also found a CNBC chart from last year illustrating that consumer and corporate debt is now 360% plus of GDP; surpassing levels from 1928-1932. This has validated a lot of the points that you have been making. I'm glad gold is pulling back and I hope silver retreats back to $5.50-$5.75 also. I shall load up as 2005 is still the year of the baddest bear we've ever seen, IMHO.
14 posted on 01/29/2004 9:08:40 PM PST by Beck_isright (" I cannot vote for a liberal whatever his party label happens to be."-Lazamataz, FR 2004)
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To: dpwiener
The FED can issue any kind of hints that it wants. No one is even taking there constant bullhorning seriously anymore. The first rate increase will blow the whole financial ponzi scheme IOU backed by IOU system right out of the water.

Richard W.

15 posted on 01/29/2004 9:08:57 PM PST by arete (Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.)
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To: Tauzero
LOL, damn. Sorry Ahnold.
16 posted on 01/29/2004 9:09:10 PM PST by Beck_isright (" I cannot vote for a liberal whatever his party label happens to be."-Lazamataz, FR 2004)
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To: Beck_isright; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; NormsRevenge
So should we move money from Stocks to real estate?
17 posted on 01/29/2004 9:11:04 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: arete
FYI:

18 posted on 01/29/2004 9:11:14 PM PST by Beck_isright (" I cannot vote for a liberal whatever his party label happens to be."-Lazamataz, FR 2004)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"So should we move money from Stocks to real estate?"

I'm not. That bubble will be the first to explode, IMHO.
19 posted on 01/29/2004 9:12:08 PM PST by Beck_isright (" I cannot vote for a liberal whatever his party label happens to be."-Lazamataz, FR 2004)
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To: Beck_isright
>And so my 2005 prediction looks wiser by the day. Keep your powder dry folks. This will NOT be like any other event in recorded history.

Not this again. This is like the Art Bell show. After the world didn't end in 1999, he moved up the date to 2012.

All those people predicting a crash in 2005-06 were also predicting that big crash in 2003 (Bill Gross, Fleckenstein, Sornette etc...). It didn't happen, so they keep predicting, but they extend the date little by little.

Prechter's recent accuracy has been what? Not too good.

M3 is lower because people are moving money into stocks out of money markets. How can you tell? Stocks are going up. This article fails as any reasonable sort of analysis that a busniessman, economist or trader would come up with. It is pure guru style hype.

20 posted on 01/29/2004 9:12:38 PM PST by Dialup Llama
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