Posted on 01/23/2004 11:58:58 AM PST by A_Niceguy_in_CA
WASHINGTON -- A political snapshot of America taken from the White House window couldn't look more different for President Bush than what his father saw from the same vantage on a cold January day 12 years ago.
In hard statistics and a harder-to-define sense of how the country is doing, today's view is one Bush's father could only have envied as he entered the re-election year of 1992. And, likewise, the public's impression of this President Bush is much kinder than was the assessment of his father at the same point in his presidency.
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The Dem wins California, New York, Illinois(?), Mass & some other NE states.
Battlegound states = Ohio, Michigan & West Virginia where the ecomomy continues to spiral downward. OH & MI both full of electoral votes.
"I'd rather be in our shoes than theirs, but it's also true that the country's very closely divided on a party basis, and if both sides consolidate their bases, it's going to be a close race," he said. "The president has an advantage, but it's not a huge advantage."
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In fact, the economy has lost about 2.3 million jobs under Bush, the worst job creation record of any president since Herbert Hoover.
Bush is ticking off his base on two fronts: 1) out-of-control deficit spending; and 2) a radical amnesty plan to legalize millions of illegal immigrants and to hugely increase immigration levels. It makes me ill that Bush is proposing the latter when millions of Americans have lost their jobs.
If Bush and Rove think that they will win this November in a walk anyway, I guess they won't lose any sleep over the disaffection of many in the Republican base.
But if Black is being serious, and the 2004 election is expected to be a cliff-hanger like 2000 was, Bush had better think long and hard about the problems his spending and amnesty plan are causing among people who would otherwise consider him the obvious choice in an election against a Democrat.
If Bush loses, it will be more the fault of strident narrowminded "conservatives" who blow one or two issues way out of proportion compared to the bigger picture. Fortunately, this "base" you say is being driven away amounts to a very small proportion of the electorate.
He is ticking you off and you are not the base, no matter your delusions of grandeur.
Also, Bush inherited a recession which was only worsened by the neglect of Bill Clinton who played patty cake with osama bin ladin.
I am not surprised that you would forget 9/11.
The recession on Bush I's watch ended 18 months before the election in 1992, but the media (and Bush I) allowed Clinton to get away "it's the economy, stupid!" and "this is the worst economy since the great depression!"
Bush I surrounded himself with negative people (Dick Darman) too willing to accept the Demo view of the world. Bush I was also the antithesis of a "visionary" -- I really feel he was happy to see the end of his presidency. Clinton didn't win; Bush was fired.
This George W. Bush is a visionary and a man of much more principle than his father -- his father would have been pushed around by a Paul O'Neil. GWB put his programs on the table when he ran against the boob, Gore, and he has the temerity to push for the passage of that program in the 4 years that followed. Who knew he would inherit the biggest market meltdown since the great depression, and the most severe corporate scandals in recent history, and a pretty severe recession, and the terrorist attacks on 9-11-01? Thank Bill Clinton for all those challenges... all those cans kicked down the road... Bill Clinton's famous "Bridge to the 21st Century"!
My evil plan continues unabbated...
So do I. I don't live in an ag community, but I do live in a suburban area where people have illegals mow their lawns, do construction, etc. I hear the same economic arguments you're using and I think they're bogus. The economy isn't going to tank if we have to figure another way to cut costs of delivering goods and services than importing a lot of cheap labor illegally.
If Bush loses, it will be more the fault of strident narrowminded "conservatives" who blow one or two issues way out of proportion compared to the bigger picture.
Yeah, imagine those @$$holes getting all upset over spending money we don't have, or rewarding people who came here in defiance of our laws, and often break more than the immigration laws once they're here? What are they thinking? Don't they realize it's worth it to spend ourselves into penury, and to turn our country into "Mexico del Norte" just to make sure a Democrat isn't elected??? (Instead of someone who just occasionally resembles a Democrat...I mean, for expediency's sake....)
Fortunately, this "base" you say is being driven away amounts to a very small proportion of the electorate.
Why, good! Who cares what they think anyway then, hunh? As long as they number less than, say, a couple of hundred voters in a state like, say, Florida, they can go stick enchiladas where the sun don't shine, right?
So just pour your contempt on them from now 'til Election Day, and sit back and watch GW get re-elected! WOOO-HOOO, MARGE!!!!!!!!
Well, I voted for him four years ago, in the CA primary and the general election. That doesn't make me part of his "base"? Oh, OK...
Also, Bush inherited a recession which was only worsened by the neglect of Bill Clinton who played patty cake with osama bin ladin.
Yeah, uh-hunh...I don't like Clinton, recessions, Osama bin Laden...and your point is..?
I am not surprised that you would forget 9/11.
I did? When did I tell you that? I'm going to forget 9/11 when a buddy I went to high school and college with died in the North Tower, you presumptuous hack?
No, buddy, I haven't "forgotten" 9/11, or the fact that lax immigration enforcement allowed the 9/11 hijackers to stay in the US and execute their terrorism. That's a primary reason why I'm disgusted by Bush's amnesty proposal.
I think they're bogus too, if what we're using cheap immigrant labor for is to mow our lawns and care for our children while we're working 80 hours a week to keep that Lexus. I'm talking about essential labor in California's farming industry. It isn't a matter of figuring out a way to cut costs of delivering goods and services. When I start seeing white high school kids spending their summers on tomato harvestors in the fields around my town, rather than hanging out at the mall, then we can talk about running those who now do that job out of the country.
Your hysteria about "Norte California" is precisely the kind of twisted perspective I've come to expect from the extremist Pat Buchanan right. You base your political perspective on some fear of a great horde of little brown people overrunning your community. Get a grip.
Why, good! Who cares what they think anyway then
Precisely. I certainly don't.
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