[My2Cents]

I hear the same economic arguments you're using and I think they're bogus.

I think they're bogus too, if what we're using cheap immigrant labor for is to mow our lawns and care for our children while we're working 80 hours a week to keep that Lexus. I'm talking about essential labor in California's farming industry. It isn't a matter of figuring out a way to cut costs of delivering goods and services. When I start seeing white high school kids spending their summers on tomato harvestors in the fields around my town, rather than hanging out at the mall, then we can talk about running those who now do that job out of the country.

Your hysteria about "Norte California" is precisely the kind of twisted perspective I've come to expect from the extremist Pat Buchanan right. You base your political perspective on some fear of a great horde of little brown people overrunning your community. Get a grip.

Why, good! Who cares what they think anyway then

Precisely. I certainly don't.

[Map Kernow]

I think they're bogus too, if what we're using cheap immigrant labor for is to mow our lawns and care for our children while we're working 80 hours a week to keep that Lexus. I'm talking about essential labor in California's farming industry. It isn't a matter of figuring out a way to cut costs of delivering goods and services. When I start seeing white high school kids spending their summers on tomato harvestors in the fields around my town, rather than hanging out at the mall, then we can talk about running those who now do that job out of the country.

"Essential labor"? There's no such thing as "essential labor," otherwise African-Americans working industrial and professional jobs in the Northeast, Midwest, and California would still be picking cotton in Mississippi. Labor costs aren't an excuse for undermining the law and our national polity anyway.

Your hysteria about "Norte California" is precisely the kind of twisted perspective I've come to expect from the extremist Pat Buchanan right. You base your political perspective on some fear of a great horde of little brown people overrunning your community. Get a grip.

Ah, here come the insults and abuse! Packed a lot in there, buddy, dincha? Never a discussion of the Bush amnesty proposal without the GOP hacks accusing their opponents of "twisted perspectives," "extremism," and---oh, yes!---"racism."

Well, here's my pact with you, fellow Californian. You don't give a chinga what I think. And I don't give a mierda what you say. And we'll both see if the disaffection of all these people on the "extremist right" who just happened to punch the card for your boy Bush last time around adds up to un monton de frijoles on Election Day.