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Fossils Bridge Gap in African Mammal Evolution
Reuters to My Yahoo! ^ | Wed Dec 3, 2003 | Patricia Reaney

Posted on 12/03/2003 4:53:26 PM PST by Pharmboy

LONDON (Reuters) - Fossils discovered in Ethiopia's highlands are a missing piece in the puzzle of how African mammals evolved, a team of international scientists said on Wednesday.

Little is known about what happened to mammals between 24 million to 32 million years ago, when Africa and Arabia were still joined together in a single continent.

But the remains of ancestors of modern-day elephants and other animals, unearthed by the team of U.S. and Ethiopian scientists 27 million years on, provide some answers.

"We show that some of these very primitive forms continue to live through the missing years, and then during that period as well, some new forms evolved -- these would be the ancestors of modern elephants," said Dr John Kappelman, who headed the team.

The find included several types of proboscideans, distant relatives of elephants, and fossils from the arsinoithere, a rhinoceros-like creature that had two huge bony horns on its snout and was about 7 feet high at the shoulder.

"It continues to amaze me that we don't have more from this interval of time. We are talking about an enormous continent," said Kappelman, who is based at the University of Texas at Austin.

Scientists had thought arsinoithere had disappeared much earlier but the discovery showed it managed to survive through the missing years. The fossils from the new species found in Ethiopia are the largest, and at 27 million years old, the youngest discovered so far.

"If this animal was still alive today it would be the central attraction at the zoo," Tab Rasmussen, a paleontologist at Washington University in St Louis, Missouri who worked on the project, said in a statement.

Many of the major fossil finds in Ethiopia are from the Rift Valley. But Kappelman and colleagues in the United States and at Ethiopia's National Science Foundation (news - web sites) and Addis Ababa University concentrated on a different area in the northwestern part of the country.

Using high-resolution satellite images to scour a remote area where others had not looked before, his team found the remains in sedimentary rocks about 6,600 feet above sea level.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: africa; archaeology; crevolist; evolution; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; links; mammals; multiregionalism; neandertal
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To: VadeRetro
Is it too soon to start speculating about who we have here? The one-liner disease looks familiar.

Could be Cash himself. Hard to tell at this point. But we have ways ...

681 posted on 12/08/2003 5:18:22 PM PST by PatrickHenry ("Virtual Ignore" is now on!)
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To: Markofhumanfeet
How fast do viruses evolve?

Fast.

I suppose you never heard of the study of "slow viruses?"

I suppose you've never heard of influenza.

You are the most uninformed non-scientific person on this forum.

I'm guessing ALS.

682 posted on 12/08/2003 5:19:45 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: Markofhumanfeet
The term 'Slow virus infections' refers to the tempo of the DISEASE, not to the growth rate of the virus. Such diseases have a prolonged incubation period (which can be months or years), and a protracted, progressive clinical course.
683 posted on 12/08/2003 5:19:50 PM PST by js1138
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To: VadeRetro
If you can't defend your argument, just say so
684 posted on 12/08/2003 5:20:22 PM PST by Markofhumanfeet
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To: js1138
Why is that? Seems not to go along with your theory of evolution, now does it!
685 posted on 12/08/2003 5:21:28 PM PST by Markofhumanfeet
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Automated Troll- Guard tm notification:
All trolls ignored.
Security settings on high.
Idiot tolerance level on low.


686 posted on 12/08/2003 5:23:18 PM PST by PatrickHenry ("Virtual Ignore" is now on!)
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To: js1138
So you're a Google scientist! Haven't read a scientific journal ever, I'll wager
687 posted on 12/08/2003 5:23:58 PM PST by Markofhumanfeet
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To: js1138
Certainly not in humans.

This one is obvious. Didn't you watch Caveman. Come on. HaHaHa

We all know the stud of the group is always the drummer.

688 posted on 12/08/2003 5:24:29 PM PST by bondserv (Alignment is critical.)
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To: js1138
The term 'Slow virus infections' refers to the tempo of the DISEASE, not to the growth rate of the virus. Such diseases have a prolonged incubation period (which can be months or years), and a protracted, progressive clinical course.

Remember, in creation science an argument from semantics is as good as doing a real study. Somebody said "slow virus," so any desired viruses are slow. Therefore, if the hominids coming out of Africa 120K years ago didn't have AIDS antibodies, that's a disproof of evolution. Any confusion of words or of anything else is a refutation of evolution.

689 posted on 12/08/2003 5:24:35 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
Based on knowledge and ability to present an argument, I'd say you are right. Fortunately FR now has the ability to track repeaters.
690 posted on 12/08/2003 5:24:48 PM PST by js1138
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To: bondserv
I notice that the Jumping Jesus faction seems to lack any desire or ability to do any original research.

Their entire position consists of whining that their simplistic, and dated, view of a very complex process, evolution, doesn't make sense.

I will not play games arguing over your youthful concepts of evolution, possibly learned from a 'Classic Comics' than I would arguing the accuracy of Newtonian Gravitation.

The problem, dear Fundy, lies not in our Theories, but in your lack of education.

So9

691 posted on 12/08/2003 5:25:00 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Effing the Ineffable.)
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To: PatrickHenry
Can't debate this one intelligently? So sad
692 posted on 12/08/2003 5:25:00 PM PST by Markofhumanfeet
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To: PatrickHenry
Cash it is. Good call.
693 posted on 12/08/2003 5:25:40 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro; PatrickHenry
You're losing this one, big time

The very mark of the beast. He just couldn't stay away.

694 posted on 12/08/2003 5:28:07 PM PST by js1138
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To: bondserv
Got that?

Fast skim. Same crap. You've really lost my attention with that one sad-sack guy's empty bag of tricks.

695 posted on 12/08/2003 5:28:25 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
I notice that you guys will take every opportunity to run from a legitimate discussion. You are as much scientist types as I am an atheist. You will even go so far as to deny that rape exists in human society! You're crazy people
696 posted on 12/08/2003 5:31:11 PM PST by Markofhumanfeet
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To: Servant of the 9
Their entire position consists of whining that their simplistic, and dated, view of a very complex process, evolution, doesn't make sense.

That's the idea. Let the other side dig their own graves. You will notice Creation-Evolution Headlines has over three years of "Scientifically sourced" articles that paint a rather dramatic picture of your friends the "Keystone Slops".

697 posted on 12/08/2003 5:31:42 PM PST by bondserv (Alignment is critical.)
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To: VadeRetro

698 posted on 12/08/2003 5:32:27 PM PST by PatrickHenry ("Virtual Ignore" is now on!)
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To: js1138
And you are the one that says rape does not happen! As a defender of the faith, of evolution. you should rise right to the top, the creme de la creme!
699 posted on 12/08/2003 5:33:20 PM PST by Markofhumanfeet
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To: VadeRetro
You are hanging on to continuous contradictions. That has to get frustrating when your boys keep switching it up on you.
700 posted on 12/08/2003 5:34:36 PM PST by bondserv (Alignment is critical.)
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