Judge Roy Moore Above the Baby Killing Law? [modified repost]

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

There is a force above the 'Almighty, Ever-to-be-worshipped' Law, righteousness. When the law is in conflict with righteousness, I side against the "almighty, ever to be worshipped, kneeled to" Law. If I did not side with righteousness, I would be worshipping law, would I not? Law would become my god, just as government was supposed to be the god of all loyal marxists. There is no difference, whatsoever, between placing law above righteousness and being a totalitarian tyrant demanding blind, marxist loyalty.

Law is made for our civilization to funtion. It is a mere tool. And in this case, that tool was badly misused. If someone hits you with a hammer and says, "Respect this hammer, submit to it, for it is a tool of good", I point out that a hammer is also a tool for tyranny.

Today's 'law' is so perverted that while prior justices honored the Ten Commandments in the US Supreme Court building, showing Moses holding the Two Tablets, the jaded tyrants of today who wear robes are completely out of touch about what establishing a religion means. Who am I supposed to believe understands the Constitution better today? The baby killing injustice system of modern times? Or the justice system that honored God in every courtroom and encouraged the honoring of God in every federal building? Why are these latecoming 'justices' so more well informed about the intent of our Founding Fathers, these baby killing, gun grabbing tyrants-in-robes of today, than the justices of the past who knew right-from-wrong?

If I'm to tell good from evil by checking the fruit born, this fruit is poison, while the sweet fruit of the past was the foundation of today's prosperity.

So long as tyranny continues in the court room, so long as our elected leaders do not impeach them for their tyranny, there IS NO TRUE LAW in this country. They are petty tyrants, nothing more. They are not worth our respect. It could even be said by some, with a certain amount of logic, that a body of people who killed 40 million innocents is an enemy of the Free World.

The law worshipping tyrants in Alabama are not alone. It is like that throughout the legal branch. Rubbing salt in the wound, they overturned an election. Judge Roy Moore was elected by the people of Alabama because of his stand on the Ten Commandments, his desire to bring sane, generic recognition of God back to government, the way it was before worms ate away the sanity of law professors in recent decades. The people agreed enthusiastically with Judge Roy Moore. He is a hero in their eyes. The debate is just starting.

Just imagine what would happen if Judge Roy Moore becomes governor of Alabama and defends the Ten Commandments with the National Guard, and various individuals who can no longer see the difference between our legal branch and mass murderers, people from various nearby states, were to join with him. I hope we prevent such an event through the political process. How tragic it would be for law worshippers to start killing people for keeping the 10 Commandments on their walls.

To say that Judge Roy Moore deserves what he got because he defied a court order is to worship black robed tyrants. Kiss their hands, if you like. Kiss their feet. Lick their slimy toes. You might as well. They are your god. And our Founding Fathers would be ashamed of you.

[Theodore R.]

I think it was "under God" added to the Pledge in 1954. I was thinking that it was put on coins too in 1956.

[debj]

Thank God for intelligent people like yourself, taking the time to post the true facts. You would think that anyone who wanted to talk about a subject would at least get their facts first before sounding off and causing themselves to look foolish. This Judge has the backbone and integrity to take such a stand as this and I for one am praying that he prevails.

[sinkspur]

This is a pathetic post, Arthur.

If judges are free to ignore the dictates of Appeals Courts, chaos would result.

I wonder how Roy would feel if someone simply ignored one of his rulings?

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

"The Federal Courts may be in error, you and Mr. Moore may be right, but they are not criminals, and Mr. Moore is."

You mentioned we are a nation of laws. But we are not a nation that worships laws. That is a vital point.

Thomas Jefferson was a criminal when he wrote the Declaration of Independence. John Hancock was a criminal when he signed it. Patrick Henry was a criminal when he said, "Give me liberty, or give me death." Prior to the Civil War, people who smuggled slaves out of the plantations were criminals. More recently, Soviet defectors were criminals. The people who defied Saddam Insane were, technically, criminals. The Iranian students resisting the mullahs are, technically speaking, criminals. I honor all of them! They stand for something higher than the law! The real crime here is the crime of tyranny.

Yes, we must vote out the slime that defends this perversity. Until that time, we must speak out for every man who defends himself with an 'unregistered gun', every veteran who hoists the US flag in defiance of neighborhood rules, and anyone who mounts the 10 Commandments on his or her wall, no matter where that wall is.

No member of the public 'offended' by the 10 Commandments should have the power to oppress the rest of us. No atheist I know of in congress has had the nerve to be 'offended' by the morning prayer before each session, not since the founding of our nation. That speaks volumes.

It is our heritage, and no one can sanely argue that it is not the intent of our Founding Fathers, which is what our judiciary is sworn to uphold, the Constitution, the written intent of our Founding Fathers. Do actions not speak louder than words? The behavior of our Founding Fathers, shortly after signing the Constitution, is the behavior they intended when they wrote it.

The legal system is so perverted, so few judges have been impeached, that they say we must pay artists who defile the crucifix [Piss Christ] with our tax money, and they say that killing an unborn child must be protected by the law. If someone illegally shows photos of a murdered unborn child to a woman at a family planning center, it might be against the 'Almighty Law', just as rescuing slaves was against the 'Almighty Law' prior to the Civil War. If you place law above righteousness, let the blood and the perversity be on your hands.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

"If judges are free to ignore the dictates of Appeals Courts, chaos would result."

Tell that to the Underground Railroad that smuggled out slaves prior to the Civil War. Call them pathetic.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

"Incidentally, who was president when 'In God We Trust' was put on our paper money and into the Pledge to the flag?"

You proved Judge Roy Moore's point. "In God We Trust" on our coins was placed back in the 1800s, long before the worms of self-worship set in the minds of our judiciary.

[carenot]

I sure understand.

[Torie]

For violating the law out of conscience to be enobling, one must gracefully accept the consequences, which in this case was removing the rogue judge from the bench post haste. Since the rogue judge is allegedly noble, I am sure he is not complaining about his being bounced. He made his point, he is removed, his camp followers have a new hero, and everybody is happy. Life is grand.

[June Cleaver]

Sir Arthur, I am humbled by your ability to cut to the quick! Many in this forum just aren't informed about the real facts of the case, and just how honorable a man Judge Moore is . . . we need more like him (and you) to stand up and be counted. God bless you!

[sinkspur]

Tell that to the Underground Railroad that smuggled out slaves prior to the Civil War. Call them pathetic.

Not an apt analogy, Arthur. The 10 Commandments are displayed all over the country; Moore chose to display them as a religious document and excluded all other religious displays.

Appeal the case or change the law. Spitting on Federal Appeals Courts is frowned on by most Americans.

Moore may get elected to the governorship of Alabama, but that's as far as he's going to go.

[c-b 1]

Spinky you are slipping, you are late to the party.

[Sloth]

If Mr. Moore can ignore the First Ammendment with impunity, why can't I ignore the 13th ammendment and take the 13 year old daughter of one of you Moore supporters as a sex slave with impunity?

More to the point, if the federal courts said you COULD do that, would Moore be wrong to try to stop you?

[Servant of the 9]

It is our heritage, and no one can sanely argue that it is not the intent of our Founding Fathers, which is what our judiciary is sworn to uphold, the Constitution, the written intent of our Founding Fathers. Do actions not speak louder than words? The behavior of our Founding Fathers, shortly after signing the Constitution, is the behavior they intended when they wrote it.

Fine bro, if that is the way you wanna do it.

Either the courts decide what the laws are, like it or not, or we each decide for ourselves, and you will like that a lot less.

You sound like a damned DemonRat, whining that your desires are special and different, that you are an opressed minority entitled to break the law cause 'the man' is out to get you.

Mr. Moore needs to grow up, take responsibility for his actions, accept his punishment as just and get on with life.

So9 So9

[Tribune7]

but when he grandstands and defies a Federal Court order on the constitutionality of his actions,

And the Federal Courts are our rulers according to the Constitution.

Well, at least the Federal Courts interpretation of the Constitution.

If the SCOTUS banned FR would you try to defy the order?

[cornelis]

It's too bad you have to defend this over Moore.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

"...his camp followers have a new hero..." Camp followers, as in prostitutes?

"...one must gracefully accept the consequences... Since the rogue judge is allegedly noble, I am sure he is not complaining about his being bounced..."

Yeah, he should just shut up and grin like an idiot, right? Fat chance. Judge Roy Moore is a graduate from West Point, back in the old days. He will not do what you call 'noble', because he knows there is more work to do. Evil triumphs when good men do nothing.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

"Spitting on Federal Appeals Courts is frowned on by most Americans."

You are so out of touch. You might find friends on this forum. But I always make it a point to talke with people on the streets. Even yellow dog democrats I've talked with think it's an outrage the way Moore is being treated. It only makes them angrier when a higher court proves how morally bankrupt the entire legal system is.

And you put down a perfect example of the point made by the headline. People are not above the law, but righteousness is, such as the Underground Railroad that rescued slaves. You therefore, I must assume, think that standing up for the intention of our Founding Fathers is not righteous. Our founding fathers would have gone further than Judge Roy Moore in defending such a monument. I'd say you are the one who's points are pathetic.

As for monuments of other religions, which ones? The only religions opposed to to the Ten Commandments are fringe, except for one, the religion the courts are seeking to establish today, worship of the law.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Servant's sex slave analogy, good grief. Making a 12 year old a sex slave is a righteous reason to rise above the law? Typical straw man ripped apart by someone grasping for straws.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

"Either the courts decide what the laws are, like it or not, or we each decide for ourselves, and you will like that a lot less."

I agree with you in most cases. But when the law suppresses righteousness, the courts undermine themselves and must suffer the derision of righteous people. For someone to know the truth and to place the law above truth, to know what is good and insult the man punished for doing what is good, such a person, believe it or not, has committed idolatry, has elevated the law above God. That is what the courts are doing here-- establishing a religion, worship of the law. No legal system will ever be perfect.

"You sound like a damned DemonRat, whining that your desires are special and different, that you are an opressed minority entitled to break the law cause 'the man' is out to get you."

You are free to worship your god. Just don't impose your god on me. You are part of the establishment of this ugly, new relgion. Buckle up. It's the law. Oh and by the way, you and the courts are in the minority, not me.

"Mr. Moore needs to grow up, take responsibility for his actions, accept his punishment as just and get on with life."

Judge Roy Moore took his punishment like a soldier, and he will carry on in the political realm with the spirit of a soldier.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

"If the SCOTUS banned FR would you try to defy the order?"

That's an interesting question. What if the courts say we must give our daughters to the judge as sex toys for the night or we lose our case? Do we submit until we vote in a senate with enough sense to impeach them? Heck no!