Judge Roy Moore Above the Baby Killing Law? [modified repost]

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

There is a force above the 'Almighty, Ever-to-be-worshipped' Law, righteousness. When the law is in conflict with righteousness, I side against the "almighty, ever to be worshipped, kneeled to" Law. If I did not side with righteousness, I would be worshipping law, would I not? Law would become my god, just as government was supposed to be the god of all loyal marxists. There is no difference, whatsoever, between placing law above righteousness and being a totalitarian tyrant demanding blind, marxist loyalty.

Law is made for our civilization to funtion. It is a mere tool. And in this case, that tool was badly misused. If someone hits you with a hammer and says, "Respect this hammer, submit to it, for it is a tool of good", I point out that a hammer is also a tool for tyranny.

Today's 'law' is so perverted that while prior justices honored the Ten Commandments in the US Supreme Court building, showing Moses holding the Two Tablets, the jaded tyrants of today who wear robes are completely out of touch about what establishing a religion means. Who am I supposed to believe understands the Constitution better today? The baby killing injustice system of modern times? Or the justice system that honored God in every courtroom and encouraged the honoring of God in every federal building? Why are these latecoming 'justices' so more well informed about the intent of our Founding Fathers, these baby killing, gun grabbing tyrants-in-robes of today, than the justices of the past who knew right-from-wrong?

If I'm to tell good from evil by checking the fruit born, this fruit is poison, while the sweet fruit of the past was the foundation of today's prosperity.

So long as tyranny continues in the court room, so long as our elected leaders do not impeach them for their tyranny, there IS NO TRUE LAW in this country. They are petty tyrants, nothing more. They are not worth our respect. It could even be said by some, with a certain amount of logic, that a body of people who killed 40 million innocents is an enemy of the Free World.

The law worshipping tyrants in Alabama are not alone. It is like that throughout the legal branch. Rubbing salt in the wound, they overturned an election. Judge Roy Moore was elected by the people of Alabama because of his stand on the Ten Commandments, his desire to bring sane, generic recognition of God back to government, the way it was before worms ate away the sanity of law professors in recent decades. The people agreed enthusiastically with Judge Roy Moore. He is a hero in their eyes. The debate is just starting.

Just imagine what would happen if Judge Roy Moore becomes governor of Alabama and defends the Ten Commandments with the National Guard, and various individuals who can no longer see the difference between our legal branch and mass murderers, people from various nearby states, were to join with him. I hope we prevent such an event through the political process. How tragic it would be for law worshippers to start killing people for keeping the 10 Commandments on their walls.

To say that Judge Roy Moore deserves what he got because he defied a court order is to worship black robed tyrants. Kiss their hands, if you like. Kiss their feet. Lick their slimy toes. You might as well. They are your god. And our Founding Fathers would be ashamed of you.

[F.J. Mitchell]

Spoken like a true adherent to the religion of Law Almighty, even though that entity has aided and abetted in the slaughter of 40 million innocent Americans.

That's more fanatical than those twisted Muslim terrorists.

[memaw]

I am one of the constiuents who voted for Chief JusticeRoy Moore & still support him in defending the ten commendents. The justices not only fired Judge Moore,they fired two of his aides for their strong belive in God & being a friend to Judge Moore. I am ashame of those justices in Alabama.looks like the State has become a gatapo State & we are now living under a dictator. God Help Us.

[memaw]

I am one of the constiuents who voted for Chief JusticeRoy Moore & still support him in defending the ten commendents. The justices not only fired Judge Moore,they fired two of his aides for their strong belive in God & being a friend to Judge Moore. I am ashame of those justices in Alabama.looks like the State has become a gatapo State & we are now living under a dictator. God Help Us & FORGIVE US.

[Theodore R.]

The AL gubernatorial election is not until 2006. Unhappily for Judge Moore, many will have forgotten this judicial tyranny in three years. Could he defeat a sitting Republican governor in a primary? If he did, wouldn't the Democrats overrule him in the fall -- they might even find a loophole to get his name off the ballot?

Still, I would love to see Moore become governor of AL. I wonder if he can practice law while he awaits a potential gubernatorial bid.

[Servant of the 9]

The Federal Court had NO JURISDICTION in this matter of a STATE Judge in a STATE court.

THAT is why he refused to follow their ILLEGAL and UNCONSTITUTIONAL demands.

First of all, a Federal Judge does have jurisdiction over violations of the First Ammendment, by anyone anywhere in this nation.

Second of all, the proper course is to appeal the decision, not defy it.

So9

[Revel]

If you are from Alabama then can you tell me why Moore was not tryed by the Senate of your state as your constitution requires. Why was he tried by his justices ? Have you heard anything about that ? Thank you.

[Servant of the 9]

Spoken like a true adherent to the religion of Law Almighty, even though that entity has aided and abetted in the slaughter of 40 million innocent Americans.

That's more fanatical than those twisted Muslim terrorists.

You either have law or you do not have law.
I can manage with either, but "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law" is going to be a lot more than y'all can stomach.

If Mr. Moore can ignore the First Ammendment with impunity, why can't I ignore the 13th ammendment and take the 13 year old daughter of one of you Moore supporters as a sex slave with impunity?

So9

[Servant of the 9]

Oh, and speaking of manifest hypocracy, the Supreme Court building honors Moses, holding the Two Tablets, and yet was unwilling to defend Justice Moore for the constitutionally sound monument. How can they accuse him of establishing a religion when earlier supreme court justices honored the same Two Tablets that he did?

The Supreme Court has the ten commandments up with early laws from many sources, such as the Code of Hammurabi, as the legal foundations of our laws.
The US District Court made it plain that if Mr. Moore had done the same he would have been OK.
Mr. Moore did not put up any other primitive laws. He did explicitly state that it was as a Religious Document rather than a legal one that he placed it.
It is not having the Ten Commandments on display that is unconstitutinal, but having them on display the way Mr. Moore did it.

It is very obvious that he had no desire to keep them on display, his whole intent was to provoke the Federal Courts to gain publicity for whatever he runs for next.

So9

[F.J. Mitchell]

What part of the First Amendment are you accusing Judge Moore of ignoring?

Was it the part that says: "Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free excercise there of." ? Please explain how Judge Moore's actions either ignored or violated that restriction.

[Theodore R.]

Would you then go into a Republican gubernatorial primary and vote to nominate Moore as the GOP candidate in the general election? Do you think many Republicans would do such in that it would mean defeating a sitting governor, Bob Riley?

[Servant of the 9]

Still, I would love to see Moore become governor of AL.

If so he will be the biggest embarasment to Alabama since George Wallace stood in the schoolhouse door.

So9

[steplock]

I wish people would learn HOW TO READ FOR THEMSELVES instead of listening to political pundits of whichever side!

This is VERY simple - even a child can understand. "Congress shall MAKE NO LAW ....."

from http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment01/


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


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Now, what part of "CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW" establishing or prohibiting don't you know the meaning of?

Does anyone remember:

Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.


What does THAT say?

[steplock]

"If some Justice of the Peace or County Judge had defied an order of the Alabama Supreme Court, former Judge Moore would have had them in jail for contempt in a minute..."

Judge Moore had authority over other STATE judges as written and approved by the Constitution of the STATE of Georgia.


The federal judge had NO AUTHORITY over the STATE JUDGE!

Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

[Servant of the 9]

The federal judge had NO AUTHORITY over the STATE JUDGE!

First, that does not matter. The propper course is to appeal, net defy the order.

Second it is not true that The Federal Judiciary has no power over State Courts.
If the Courts cannot enforce our rights under the constitution against abuse by state govt. then we have no rights. Any state can reinstitute slavery or any other damned thing they want

So9

[Theodore R.]

Incidentally, who was president when 'In God We Trust' was put on our paper money and into the Pledge to the flag?

Dwight Eisenhower, who also said that he did not care what people believed from a standpoint of religion so long as they believed something, a position contrary to Scripture.

[ppaul]

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[Arthur Wildfire! March]

"The Supreme Court has the ten commandments up with early laws from many sources, such as the Code of Hammurabi, as the legal foundations of our laws.
The US District Court made it plain that if Mr. Moore had done the same he would have been OK."

An excellent and well-thought point. I respect you for that.

The acknoledgement of God is not a crime. In fact, it is a requirement, particularly in Alabama court houses. Nor are the 10 Commandments an establishment of one religion above all others. If they were, the Two Tablets and Moses would not be on display in any Federal building. The law that was broken was 'separation of church and state', a law invented by the judiciary, in defiance of the Constitution. Any court order upholding that perverse and illegal law is nothing more than an abuse of power. So the question really is, who supports an abuse of power?

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

The federal courts are hemoraging over this debate. This is no more a victory for the courts than Bunker Hill was to the red coats. They won the hill, but at what cost? This debate is far from over. God bless you and all the Alabama voters who stand up for Judge Roy Moore. FReegards....

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

"THOSE who are willing to pay the PRICE for disobeying an unjust law, LEAD the way to righteousness."

In this case, despite great odds, I think you are correct. Few are the martyrs who generate change, sad to say. I believe Justice Moore will be one of those few martyrs who generate change. A martyr only helps if people rally around one. And no one on the street I've talked to is liberal enough to think Moore is doing anything wrong, even though half of them are pro-Clinton democrats.

And, I'd like to look at this on a mystical level for a moment, thinking of God as a loving, sentient being. If voters spit upon righteousness for the sake of their pagan god [in this case, the 'Almighty Law'], then God will know He is not welcome here and His light will dim further. I don't think that will happen in this instance. I think the courts will continue to trash him, and the lawyers. But God doesn't care about them so much as what the streets say. FReegards....

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

US Treasury - Fact Sheet on the History of "In God We Trust"
... approval of the Secretary. IN GOD WE TRUST first appeared on the 1864
two-cent coin. Another Act of Congress passed on March 3, 1865. ...
http://www.ustreas.gov/education/fact-sheets/currency/in-god-we-trust.html