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Terri Schiavo Vigil Report / Action
floriduh voter ^ | 10/16/03 | freeper reports

Posted on 10/17/2003 3:40:25 AM PDT by cyn

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MY NOTE: TERRI has been without water for longer than we knew -- 72 hrs. Gov. Bush -- Please act now and have faith! Our prayers continue to all involved in this, especially ‘behind the scenes’.

We are told to continue calls & emails -- please pass this on to mailing lists and friends.

phone -- 850 - 488 - 4441
FAX -- 850 - 922 - 4292

FL atty Gen. Charlie Crist email --
PHONE -- 850 - 487 - 1963
FAX -- 850 - 487 - 2564


477 posted on 10/16/2003 6:55 PM PDT by floriduh voter ( To 433
To: sfRummygirl; kimmie7; Ragtime Cowgirl; pc93; Ethan_Allen; JulieRNR21

Hi, friends. It's 9:50 p.m. Thursday night. The 24/7 Vigils since Tuesday have had at least several people for every hour since it began. I just came to report that much is going on behind the scenes and we have even more people at Hospice this evening. I hope everyone caught Hannity & Colmes. If not, please watch the replay later tonight if you can.

GOP and GWB Man has been here 24/7 and I've almost done the same. I met the lady from Not Dead Yet Organization and other folks who have flown in from other parts of the country to show support for Terri.

The message for tonight is KEEP CALLING GOVERNOR BUSH. That is the message I'm requesting until you hear otherwise from the front line at the Hospice Vigil. Oh, and keep praying. We are all sunburn and getting tired but we are standing with the Schindlers and they are feeling stronger because we are there for them around the clock.

Can't give any updates. If you've been watching tv or listening to the radio, you already realize that the media has woken up. THERE ARE SATELLITE TRUCKS, new people every day from all over the country, roses presented to us by a local florist, free food and beverages, the kindness of strangers is in abundance. I'll report back tomorrow. I'm going back to remain all night long. This is the biggest freep I've ever been to. The lawn in front of Hospice looks like your living rooms. We have moved in and are standing tall. God Bless America. God Bless Florida. FV


To: summer

Summer, please tell everyone to have hope. We are attending the vigils everyday, even as Terri has missed three feedings. People should continue to call the Governor and their legislators which is in their phone books. Thank you so much, FV (back to the front lines).

P.S. There are also alternate freeps at the courthouse in Clearwater FL. People can get that address from phenn. Bye, back to Terri.

478 posted on 10/16/2003 6:58 PM PDT by floriduh voter ( To 472


(SNIP) ‘Mr. Schindler said he was not worried about his daughter's dying just yet. The feeding tube was removed once before, for 60 hours, he said, and she suffered no consequences.

"If it was 10 minutes to 2 on Sunday afternoon," Mr. Schindler said, "I'd be very, very concerned. She's good for the next three to four days." ‘

532 posted on 10/16/2003 10:22 PM PDT by summer To 530 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

To: All
484 posted on 10/16/2003 7:26 PM PDT by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...) To 478

floriduh's report that Terri has not had three feedings is cause for increased prayer ... that translates to 72 hours, 12 hours beyond the time the first tube was reinserted. Terri's Dad on Sean's radio program today was using 60 hours as a benchmark before the body begins to break down.

Heavenly Father, I pray that You will be the strength that Terri needs during these hours ... cause her to withstand physically the onslaught that has gripped her ... comfort her parents, for they have walked this way before, but are now beyond the original time ... they are into new territory ... keep them hopeful, even as we are hopeful ... may they be sustained by our continuing prayer on their behalf, and for their beloved daughter.

Send relief, I pray, dear Father ... bring this child back from the brink, for I pray in the name of Jesus, Amen ...


401 posted on 10/16/2003 7:31 AM PDT by SwordofTruth --

Without human medical intervention – the feeding tube - God would allow her to die.

Without food you would die as well. Terri can swallow and *HAS* already ate some pudding. She does not need the feeding tube to live, she probably never did.

Her "husband" wants her dead so she can't tell the world he tried to kill her.

Without your parents feeding you when you were a baby, you would have also died without intervention from God almighty.


To: All
549 posted on 10/16/2003 10:40 PM PDT by kenth 549

There is a difference between guardianship and ownership. A person who is under guardianship still enjoys basic rights that are to be protected either by the state or the nation. In this case, the overriding law is a very basic one. It is the basic right to life, unable to be broken even because of physical disability.

The courts are completely disregarding Terri's basic protected right to life as stated unequivocally in the Florida Constitution, and are bestowing ownership to her husband. To be a guardian is to protect your charge, not be hell-bent on killing them. Ownership on the other hand denotes property that one can do with as they please.

Sorry folks, I'm not addressing any person in particular here. It's just late and we've been appalled at this injustice to one who is defenseless. There are rights and wrongs, and this is wrong.

The courts have decided, on hearsay of one side, that this woman is disabled and therefore may be put to death. This is not even the supreme court, and the hearsay is tainted by interests other than those of the victim. One irregularity would be distressing, two, a cause for alarm, but the sheer number of factors actively working against Terri is unfathomable; from judges, lawyers and media with right-to-die agendas to husbands with financial, adulterous and criminal interests, to ignorance of the masses...


Jeb Bush email --
phone -- 850 - 488 - 4441
FAX -- 850 - 922 - 4292

FL atty Gen. CHarlie Crist email --
PHONE -- 850 - 487 - 1963
FAX -- 850 - 487 - 2564

IF YOU ARE CONVINCED AS I AM THAT THIS IS ABUSE -- THEN call the FL abuse hotline (info to follow)

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THAT'S 850 - 488 - 4441.

If, God forbid, despite all our efforts, Terri dies -- I respectfully ask the Pinellas County Medical Examiner's office, in light of the high profile and many questions surrounding Terri's initial collapse and subsequent treatment, to do their own complete investigation, and to do a full autopsy.

1 posted on 10/17/2003 3:40:25 AM PDT by cyn
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To: cyn
Is there a number to report animal abuse? Has that route been tried? Animal abuse laws were after all the first ones used to go after child abusers at the turn of the century!
2 posted on 10/17/2003 3:45:12 AM PDT by GailA (Millington Rally for America after action
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To: GailA
POST TO -- this is duplicate thread. Sorry Gail!

PLEASE USE OTHER THREAD -- it has contact info.

Mod -- please lock this thread. I have to go soon.
3 posted on 10/17/2003 4:06:02 AM PDT by cyn
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To: GailA
If you are convinced that what Terri Schiavo has been experiencing over the last several years and now is cruel and inhumane, call the FL Abuse Hotline 1 - 800 - 962 - 2873

At a certain point, you will hear this message: "The safety and well being of Florida's most vulnerable citizens is very important. Persons making reports in good faith are not subject to prosecution. Intentional false reporting is a violation of FL law."

This is when you need to carefully consider if you truly believe this is abuse or neglect.

You will be asked a number of questions on this long form -- all allegations are truly taken seriously! Most of us know those answers from our visits to the website (address of victim, age, what your concerns are). Some I didn't know (phone number of facility).

The person taking the information was businesslike but sympathetic ("trained counselors" take the calls).

~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~

I am convinced that a precious citizen of the state of FL is being abused -- so I made the call. I'd expressed my concerns to the governor, and he said he's concerned, too, so I figure I'm in good company.

4 posted on 10/17/2003 4:08:40 AM PDT by cyn
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To: cyn
5 posted on 10/17/2003 4:15:35 AM PDT by Sunshine55 (Save Terri Schindler-Schiavo...over 3000 Freeper signatures since yesterday!)
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To: cyn
The Lord bless Terri, her family and those who are able to be in Florida, Keeping my e-mail notes going to Jeb. Usually just one liners, that hopefully will draw attention. I haven't had any luck getting thru by phone for several days. Have been fasting since before they removed the tubes and praying constantly. Please let her parents know they are not alone.
6 posted on 10/17/2003 4:35:27 AM PDT by trustandobey
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To: cyn
Again, just left a message with the Governor's office regarding the more than 72 hours of lack of food and that Terri is well past the dad's concern for 60 hours ... we're getting desperate here, Governor. Judge Greer okayed a cremation for Terri ... there won't be any autopsy ... I also left that message.
7 posted on 10/17/2003 4:40:39 AM PDT by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: Pegita
I am going to call AGAIN this am as well.
8 posted on 10/17/2003 4:48:36 AM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: All
Heavenly Father, we begin this day with thanksgiving that You are among us ~ if that were not so, all would be lost. Again, Father, in earnest plea, we are before the Throne of Grace for the life of dear Terri ... she is so loved, Father, yet damned to death on the testimony of a husband ~ ordered to death by one judge ~ assisted by attorneys who proclaim a right to die.

Such sickness ~ such madness ~ the sin of satan abounds ... to be as God. Father, we bow before You, the one true God, and ask that You reach into Terri's room, surrounded by those who wait for her death, giving her not one drop of water or food ... rescue her from this evil. Bring forth the best legal minds to bear on this situation ~ open up the books of the law ~ pierce our hearts that our allegiance is to You and Your laws before obedience to the law of man.

Thou shalt not kill ... not the unborn or the infirm or the elderly or the disabled or the diseased. Lay not the sins of our dsperate neglect on this mother's child, but deliver her, in the name of Jesus ~ for the sake of her parents ~ for the sake of Your word ... pull her back from the brink ~ please, Heavenly Father.

Be the Blessed Comforter and Sustainer for her beleagured parents, lest they be struck down in absolute grief. Give strength to those standing vigil ~ refresh them through the day and night. May the phones and all means of communication burn today with a national uproar over this injustice ... send the Sword of Truth and Justice to cut a path to Terri's room and save her, Creator God, in the name of Jesus, I pray, Amen ...

9 posted on 10/17/2003 4:57:26 AM PDT by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: cyn
I am really confused. Are they saying the feeding tube was removed prior to Wends. 2 pm. Because that is 30 hours ago. Or am I losing it? ( I would not doubt I am at this point) There does seem to be a great deal of confusion about the time. DO you know anything more about that?
10 posted on 10/17/2003 5:01:21 AM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: No More Gore Anymore; All
Sarah Foster on "American Breakfast" radio RIGHT NOW!

Listen on radio, or here:

(I'm listening on the station in the top link on the right column.)

Pass this along to everyone you can ping, I don't know how long it will be on, or if it'll be archived. She's really hitting 'em *hard* for what they're doing to Terri.
11 posted on 10/17/2003 5:15:44 AM PDT by Don Joe
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To: cyn
For those that call this hotline without reasonable knowledge and perhaps first hand knowledge of the 'abuse'- you've really put them in a bad position. I think it would be terribly irresponsible for anyone else to follow your lead on this. Sorry, just my thoughts.
12 posted on 10/17/2003 5:28:06 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone
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To: cyn
We sure have a system in this country, don't we? (sarcasm)
13 posted on 10/17/2003 5:42:23 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: cyn
There will be no autopsy -- immediate cremation, as already ordered by the popular George W. Greer.

I do not think that the Democrats would have allowed a member of their base to suffer and die like this. They would have attempted an extralegal rescue under similar circumstances.

The GOP just crushes its own base day after day, and the base sits and says "Sock It to Me" again!
14 posted on 10/17/2003 5:45:06 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Pegita
Amen! Lord, hear our cries. Hear our pleas for Terri's life.

Yea, though Terri walks through the shadow of death, let her fear no evil, for Thou art with her. Thy rod and Thy staff they comfort her. Thou preparest a table for her in the presence of her enemies. Thou anointest her head with oil...may her cup overflow! Surely goodness and mercy shall follow her all the days of her life. May she dwell in the house of the Lord forever.

15 posted on 10/17/2003 5:52:17 AM PDT by shezza
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To: ClintonBeGone
I appreciate your input. I considered the situation before I called and concluded that I had more than reasonable knowledge of abuse. I was compelled by morals (and by law) to act on that.

Clearly one must be thoroughly convinced that there is abuse of a vulnerable person before making that call.
16 posted on 10/17/2003 5:57:02 AM PDT by cyn
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To: Don Joe; cyn; pc93; CindyDawg; Theodore R.; floriduh voter; Ragtime Cowgirl; sarasota; ...
Thanks for the link to Diner Show.......listening now.....this may be a repeat as Phil just said that Sarah Foster is 'coming up'....

Sarah Foster on "American Breakfast" radio RIGHT NOW!

Listen on radio, or here:

(I'm listening on the station in the top link on the right column.)

Pass this along to everyone you can ping, I don't know how long it will be on, or if it'll be archived. She's really hitting 'em *hard* for what they're doing to Terri.
17 posted on 10/17/2003 6:26:19 AM PDT by JulieRNR21 (Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: All
Did you guys go to and read those letters the lawyers sent Gov. Bush !!

You should look at them.
18 posted on 10/17/2003 6:26:38 AM PDT by NebraskaTrailrider (("Anyone who thinks a horse is dumb, is dumb." Roy Rogers))
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To: NebraskaTrailrider
Executive Office of Governor, Legal Team to Jeb (ask to speak to the following individuals):
Robert H. Fernandez (Deputy General Counsel to Governor) ->
Raquel A. Rodriguez (General Counsel to Governor) ->
Christa Calamas (Assistant General Counsel to Governor) ->
850 / 488-3494 (voice)
850 / 488-9810 (fax)

Jeb Bush, Governor ->
Voice: (850)488-4441
Voice: (850)488-7146
Fax: (850)487-0801
Executive Office of the Governor
400 S. Monroe Street
The Capitol
Tallahassee, Florida 32399-0001

Ask to speak to Lauren O'Conner.

and his Attorney General
Charlie Crist ->
Office of Attorney General Charlie Crist
State of Florida
The Capitol PL-01
Tallahassee, FL 32399-1050
Main office telephone numbers
Voice: (850)414-3990
Fax: (850)487-2564

Please visit in addition to contacting Jeb and his legal team,
etc. Also contact the news media and other caring individuals who will do the same.

Petition count at over 80,000.

Thank you. Keep telling others.


Message: 2
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:40:07 -0000
From: ninanna2000
Subject: Im able to eat today but terri's starving

Please forgive me its been awhile
since I have been on. I have been trying to get my buisness off the
ground, and finally have started to progress. Anyway I wanted to
share something with you today Terri needs our help.... let me share
an email with you about it.. please help
her with your light and your voice pass this on to everyone one you
know the more witnesses to this crime the better until next time
Peace and
Understanding Cat

A criminal investigation needs to be conducted by John Ashcroft.
Please demand of President Bush to initiate an investigation so
that Mr. Ashcroft can get involved:

President George W. Bush
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Ave., N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20500
Voice: (202)456-1111
Switchboard: (202)456-1414
Fax: 1 202 456 2883
Comments: 202-456-6213
Visitors Office: 202-456-2121

Although you'll get an automated response, here
are the e-mails for GW and Cheney:

President George W. Bush:

Vice President Richard Cheney:
Fax: 1 202 456 2710

United States Attorney General John Ashcroft:

U.S. Senate:

Subject: Homeland Security needed in Florida - Thousands of citizens
at risk

The Homeland Security Dept should hold an immediate investigation
into the mirky circumstances surrounding the Forced Euthanasia of a
39 year old Pinellas County woman.

Documented sources show that Terri Schiavo suffered a collapse at the
age of 26 under mysterious circumstances.

Since that time, her spouse (of 3 years at that time) sued and won a
malpractice award resulting in a 300K award to him for loss of
consortium, and 750K to Terri Schiavo for her rehabiliation.

Several questions of legality abound here:

1) Why has none of Terri's 750 K been spent on efforts to
rehabilitate her?

2) Why has Terri's spouse ordered that Terri not be given normal
rehabilatation that would be afforded most persons in her situation?

3) Why is Michael Schiavo still allowed to be Terri's legal guardian
even though he has a domestic partner and 2 children by said partner?

Terri briefly did have the service of Richard L. Pearse, Esq.,
appointed by the court in 1998.,br> Attorney Pearse was dismissed
from the case by the state court on motion by George J. Felos, Esq.,
the non-party co-conspirator herein, after the former filed a report
concluding that Michael Schiavo had an irreconcilable conflict of
interest due to Schiavo's relationship with another woman, his
financial stake in Terri's death, and the fact that he tried to let
Terri die of a urinary tract infection in 1993.

4) Why has Terri been kept in a Hospice for since March or April
2000, when Hospice' is meant for terminally ill patients, not
disabled persons who can be rehabilatated.

5) Why is medicaid paying for Terri, someone who is not certified
Terminally Ill to be kept in a hospice? When her husband drives a
recent model Mercedes, owns a home with a pool, has an insurance
corporation, and earns good income?

7) Why isn't Michael Schiavo paying the hospice bill if he is Terri's
husband? He has income and assets, or is he hiding his assets with
his in-active insurance company that has its office at his residence?

6) Shouldn't Michael Schiavo return the malpractice funds that were
to be used for Terri's rehabiliation? Surely the mal-practice award
was not intended to be used as a vehicle to have Terri's life ended.

7) Why isn't the media allowed to see Terri in her room at the

8) Why is the Suncoast Hospice allowed to even be open, when it has 3
lawsuits against it for various mis appropriations of patients funds
and donations, and for sexual harassment? Isn't it mis appropriating
the governments funds now, by billing medicaid for a non-terminal

9) Why is Suncoast Hospice allowed to knowingly employ convicted
embezzlers in its financial department? One said embezzler had just
been released from prison.

10) Why is Judge Greer allowed to preside over this case when it is
clear that he has conflicts of interest, such as having served on the
board of hospice (with big salary), as has Michael Schiavo's
attorney, Felos? (Felos served as Chairman of Hospice Board). It
would seem to me that those very ties to a board overseeing a Hospice
that is rife with improprieties would be a red flag.

11) Why has Judge Greer banned Terri's parents from videotaping her,
tape recording her, and photographing her? Is this so that he can
preserve the false image that Terri is in a coma or in a vegetative
This is important evidence that Terri is not in a persistent
vegetative state and is responsive to her family and friends. This
includes evidence that Terri can get out a few words, and that she
Since when was a judge supposed to suppress the truth?

12) Why is Michael Schiavo's word taken that Terri would not want to
be kept alive with artificial means, when her own family and friends
never heard her to say such things. Since when was heresay enough to
take the place of a living will?
Especially since Michael Schiavo has contradicted himself greatly by
suing for rehabilitative funds for Terri and then not using them to
do so? His veracity is dubvious at best.

13) Why isn't Michael Schiavo being investigated for being the
possible cause of Terri's collapse, since medical records (later
discovered) have come to light that Terri's initial injuries suggest
strangulation? R/E bone scan.

14) Why isn't Terri given the option of refusing rehabiliation, and
the option to refuse food herself?

15) Why has Michael Schiavo ordered an immediate cremation of Terri
Schiavo's body once she dies?

16) Why doesnt the State prevent that and order an immediate autopsy
of Terri's body, or better yet, prevent her death so as to not need

17) Does the state of Florida plan to start putting disabled people
into Hospice facilities now? Then to kill them?

18) When did the state of Florida sink so low in its compassion for
the disabled?

19) Why is the state of Florida, and ultimately the United States of
America allowing itself to sink so low that other sovereign countries
feel compelled to offer asylum to one of our disabled?
And to offer treatment at no cost?
Where is our decency, our humanity, our sense of shame?
Why does our country give up its greatness so cheaply?????

20) At what cost, moral and ethical, does the state of Florida, and
the country of the United States allow the forced euthanasia of a
disabled person? Of any person. How far have we sunk as a nation???


Please kindly respond.

The fundamental policy issue at stake is whether or not the state can
deprive a person with a disability of life because their medical need
has become too expensive or some members of the family are no longer
willing to care. The state stands on a slippery slope. Without
caution, the slope leads to a precipice and the precipice leads to
death for Terri Schiavo and all like her.


Continue to email the Governor, cc your media contacts, and cc the
representatives in Florida and elsewhere. Make sure that your subject
line has the basic message, not just "r/e terri schiavo"
Call for an investigation.

family members sign it. Email your friends and ask them to sign it.


They may only read the subject line of your email since they are
getting gazillions of them right now.

So - make sure the subject line has impact!

Also, make sure you copy all the gov reps and media contacts that you
have, to emphasize that the WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING!


Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:20:12 -0700 (PDT) From: "> |
Subject: Legitimacy of U.S. Govt Tainted by the Forced "Euthanasia"
of Terri Schiavo, a viable human being To: "jeb" , "jeb"
, "Sengraham" ,,,,, Dear Gov

The world is waiting to see what you do to save your state from being
a part of his killing of a viable woman.
If you would intervene on Terri Schiavo's behalf, I would be able to
believe that you are a decent man, worthy of being in public office.
You would gain my support in your future endeavors
Hundreds of thousands of folks would be grateful to you.

Do something, anything, call upon your brother, the President of the
most powerful country in the world, and therefore the most POWERFUL
person in the world, and ask him to intervene.

What must the world think of the United States, to commit an obvious
mis-carriage of the law?

This must cast even further shadow over the legitimacy of the
government in the United States.

This is akin to civil court approved murder.




IT IS WORKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!KEEP THE PRESSURE
UP!!!!!!!!!!I think the tide will turn if you don't give up. 10/16/03
Governor Bush Promises to Do Everything Possible to Save TerriNew
developement in the Terri Schiavo case as the Pinellas Park woman is
in her first full day without nourishment. But this case is far from
over: see BayNews9 her parents clung to hope for a legal reversal and
Gov.Jeb Bush promised to help. "Wednesday's removal came just hours
after Bush told the Schindlers that he was instructing his legal
staff to find some means to block a court order allowing Michael
Schiavo to...

Jeb can send in the guard right now and/or the police.

19 posted on 10/17/2003 6:49:32 AM PDT by pc93 (A good site to visit is . Oct. 15th 2pm death order must be stopped)
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To: cyn
I wonder if Michael S. will have the cojones to attend Terri's funeral.
20 posted on 10/17/2003 6:53:33 AM PDT by 6323cd
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