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Scholars conclude ‘beyond doubt’ that Shakespeare was main author of Edward III
The Guardian ^
| 10/18/2026
| Dalya Alberge
Posted on 10/21/2026 6:13:49 AM PDT by BenLurkin
Edward III did not appear in the 1623 first folio collection of Shakespeare’s plays. Loughnane edited it for the 2016 New Oxford Shakespeare: Complete Works, acknowledging that a couple of scenes had probably been written by him, and the play had also appeared in a 2005 volume. Loughnane also co-authored the Canon and Chronology study in the New Oxford Shakespeare: Authorship Companion, which made the case for Shakespeare’s part-authorship...
Rather than attributing particular lines to either author, the study focused on linguistic features and the distribution of certain “marker” words, such as “martial”, which are typically present in Marlowe’s plays and correspondingly atypical in the plays of other dramatists. They also suggest Shakespeare’s authorship of segments, “which may overlap with bits of writing he did not do”, and Marlowe’s authorship of other segments.
The analysis confirms that a speech from the beginning of scene 13 was written by Shakespeare, when a sudden and ominous darkening of the sky causes fear in the French camp, and King Jean says: “A sudden darkness hath defaced the sky …”
The analysis concludes that a speech from the final scene of the play was written by Marlowe: “Great servitor to bloody Mars in arms, / The Frenchman’s terror and his country’s fame.”
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The researchers used various forms of computerised linguistic analysis in comparing Edward III with securely attributed works by 10 dramatists active between the late 1580s and the mid-1590s. In one test, 23 segments – “the lion’s share” – were identified as being written by Shakespeare, while nine segments were classified as Marlowe, whose works include Doctor Faustus.
Loughnane said these findings were particularly significant because a 2016 study had found that Marlowe was a co-author of Shakespeare’s three Henry VI plays:
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TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: brettgreatleyhirsch; canonandchronology; christophermarlowe; edwardiii; england; epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; newoxfordshakespeare; plantagenets; renaissance; roryloughnane; sciencehatingtrolls; shakespeare; sweetswanofavon; williamshakespeare
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posted on
10/21/2026 6:13:50 AM PDT
by
BenLurkin
To: SunkenCiv
Well, we know he helped Shakespeare write Romeo and Juliet...
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posted on
10/21/2026 6:19:34 AM PDT
by
BenLurkin
(The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
To: BenLurkin
I’m glad that’s settled. Now I can sleep at night...................
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posted on
10/21/2026 6:21:14 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(Iryna Zarutska, May 22, 2002 Kyiv, Ukraine – August 22, 2025 Charlotte, North Carolina Say her name)
To: Red Badger
They should fire all these scholars and train all the students to be plumbers instead. I can’t believe our tax money is being spent on this nonsense!
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posted on
10/21/2026 6:24:06 AM PDT
by
Languager
To: Languager
It’s a tough job, but somebody’s gotta do it!...............
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posted on
10/21/2026 6:26:33 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(Iryna Zarutska, May 22, 2002 Kyiv, Ukraine – August 22, 2025 Charlotte, North Carolina Say her name)
To: BenLurkin
I thought Shakespeare was a Black African female according to some recent “scholars”
To: BenLurkin
The Muppet Show, many, many years ago, was good corny fun. I remember a segment where Kermit tried to engage Miss Piggy in a debate on the topic “Is Shakespeare Bacon?” Good times
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posted on
10/21/2026 7:00:18 AM PDT
by
j.havenfarm
(25 years on Free Republic, 12/10/25! More than 12,750 replies and still not shutting up!)
To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...
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posted on
10/21/2026 7:49:09 AM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(TDS -- it's not just for DNC shills and jihadists anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
To: BenLurkin
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posted on
10/21/2026 7:55:35 AM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(TDS -- it's not just for DNC shills and jihadists anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
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posted on
10/21/2026 8:03:58 AM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(TDS -- it's not just for DNC shills and jihadists anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
To: BenLurkin
That’s my Mac!
MacDonald P. Jackson is a prominent New Zealand scholar whose stylometric research played a key role in the 2016 New Oxford Shakespeare project. His computer-aided attribution analysis helped substantiate co-authorship claims for plays like the Henry VI series and Pericles. You can read more about his work on Wikipedia or explore his publications via Oxford University Press.
That was after Mac cutaway to work on Night Before Christmas. Good memories. Fun stuff. He was very pleased with the Shakespeare work.
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posted on
10/21/2026 8:17:19 AM PDT
by
mairdie
To: Languager
I don’t think research into one of the greatest authors of western civilization is nonsense. Shakespeare created many of the English words in our vocabulary and many of the axioms and phrases we still use can be traced to him.
You’re free to think plumbing is superior to literature but I prefer a culture with both.
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posted on
10/21/2026 8:53:36 AM PDT
by
muir_redwoods
(You choose; a world without dogs or a world without muslims.)
To: muir_redwoods
Both are important.
“An excellent plumber is infinitely more admirable than an incompetent philosopher. The society which scorns excellence in plumbing because plumbing is a humble activity, and tolerates shoddiness in philosophy because it is an exalted activity, will have neither good plumbing nor good philosophy. Neither its pipes nor its theories will hold water.”
― John W. Gardner, Excellence
tags: philosophy
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posted on
10/21/2026 9:09:59 AM PDT
by
21twelve
(Ever Vigilant - Never Fearful)
To: muir_redwoods
“I don’t think research into one of the greatest authors of western civilization is nonsense”
Sorry, I was just summarizing where this thread will go on FR before it even gets started. Neglected to put the sarcasm tag though
To: muir_redwoods
Anti-intellectualism on this forum is out of control these days.
To: Languager
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posted on
10/21/2026 10:08:16 AM PDT
by
misterdarcey
(Abandon all nuance, ye who enter here.)
To: Languager
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posted on
10/21/2026 1:07:03 PM PDT
by
muir_redwoods
(You choose; a world without dogs or a world without muslims.)
To: 21twelve
Agreed 100%, like I said, a want a culture that appreciates both
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posted on
10/21/2026 1:08:07 PM PDT
by
muir_redwoods
(You choose; a world without dogs or a world without muslims.)
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- BBC to film all 37 of Bard's plays (12-year Shakespeare project could top $200 Million) [11/18/2007]
- Mystery Of The 'missing' Shakespeare Portrait [10/30/2007]
- Upon Saint Crispin's Day: My Two Cents on Honoring What's Honrorable [10/26/2007]
- Coalition aims to expose Shakespeare [09/08/2007]
- American group brings Shakespeare to Stockholm's Drottningholm Palace [08/30/2007]
- 'Merchant [of Venice]' a Tough Sell (The PC-ification of Shakespeare) [07/12/2007]
- Anti-Israel theme imposed on Egyptian Merchant of Venice [07/11/2007]
- Diagnosing Lear [06/06/2007]
- Video Game Aims To Hook Children On Shakespeare [05/02/2007]
- Needing FReeper Help [04/04/2007]
- Heads she's homely; tails he's ugly [02/15/2007]
- Today's Birthday girl: Elizabeth Ist of England [09/07/2006]
- Vault believers want new dig ("secret vault" of Sir Francis Bacon) [08/20/2006]
- Shakespeare folio brings 5.2 mln dlrs at auction [07/14/2006]
- Reconstructing Shakespeare (What Did The Bard Look Like? Exhibit Offers Six Possible Answers) [06/23/2006]
- English schools dumb down Shakespeare [06/07/2006]
- Age no handicap for 105-year-old fisherman 105-year-old man still hauling in fish (My kinda guy) [05/15/2006]
- The Shakespeare Code [05/13/2006]
- The Modern Elizabethan (On Shakespeare's Birthday) [04/23/2006]
- There's much ado about life and works of Shakespeare [04/23/2006]
- (Australian) Elite girls' school 'kills the study of literature' (Shakespeare goes Marxist) [04/14/2006]
- Will the Real William Shakespeare Please Stand Up? [03/08/2006]
- Shakespeare Died of Rare Cancer? (British Gallery Unveils Shakespeare Image) [03/01/2006]
- Ben Jonson's encomium to William Shakespeare [02/12/2006]
- RSC in school Shakespeare drive [11/15/2005]
- For Virginia-DC-Maryland Posters [11/15/2005]
- In Oregon, Brushing Up Their Shakespeare, Helped Along by Software [11/08/2005]
- Experts plan to exhume Shakespeare's body [11/02/2005]
- Shadowplay: The Hidden Beliefs and Coded Politics of William Shakespeare [10/30/2005]
- Halloween Dreams [10/29/2005]
- Much ado about 'fake' Shakespeare portrait! [10/28/2005]
- Teachers learn how to better teach Shakespeare [10/18/2005]
- Diplomat 'was real Shakespeare' (latest theory on "true" Shakespeare in new book) [10/05/2005]
- Was the Bard really the Bard? [09/29/2005]
- The Catholic Bard [09/25/2005]
- Ken Dodd 'tickled' by Shakespeare (Lectured Scholars on Shakespeare. Did he? No, Doddy) [09/21/2005]
- A Bard by any Other Name [09/19/2005]
- Shakespeare Online [09/19/2005]
- Literature: Shakespeare by Peter Ackroyd [09/18/2005]
- The Bible, Shakespeare and public schools [09/17/2005]
- Shakespeare, The Secret Rebel [09/17/2005]
- Clare Asquith, author of "Shadowplay", on EWTN's The World Over Live - 8pm Friday 9/16 [09/16/2005]
- Hamlet Made a Muslim Prince in Post 9/11 Adaptation [09/15/2005]
- Weezer Tease Fans With Shakespeare Split Riddle [09/14/2005]
- Shakespeare Lady (Schizophrenia, Addiction Reduce Once-Promising Actress/Writer To Street Theater) [09/11/2005]
- The Complete Shakespeare [09/11/2005]
- First Shakespeare Play in 25 Years Delights Afghan Audience [09/02/2005]
- Literature: To be - or not to be - Shakespeare [09/02/2005]
- All the world's a Shakespeare stage (Playwright's popularity soars as audiences flock to festivals) [08/14/2005]
- Selections from the Last Will and Testament of William Shakespeare 1616 [08/05/2005]
- Mayor is carrying a shotgun--all in the interest of theater (Los Gatos) [07/27/2005]
- The real sound of Shakespeare? (Globe theatre performs Shakespeare's plays in Shakespeare's dialect) [07/19/2005]
- The Fry Cook Rule for the Supreme Court [07/14/2005]
- In love with Shakespeare (RSC plans to perform all 37 of Shakespeare's plays in a single year) [07/13/2005]
- Record-Breaking Shakespeare Event [07/02/2005]
- Shakespeare in the Park [06/30/2005]
- Goths, chavs and Hell's Kitchen for Shakespeare [06/27/2005]
- 1599: A Year in the Life of William Shakespeare by James Shapiro [06/05/2005]
- Class War Over Shakespeare's Identity [05/31/2005]
- The Gunfight at Not-OK Corral [05/24/2005]
- On the Decline of Invective [05/21/2005]
- Crowe Slams Fienne's Shakespeare Performance [05/03/2005]
- Never has Shakespeare shown such relevance [04/24/2005]
- Shakespeare caper doesn't end well (Famed Portrait of Playwright Is a Fraud; 200 Years Too Young) [04/24/2005]
- 'Happy Birthday, Shakespeare!!! [04/23/2005]
- Did Shakespeare teach at House? [04/23/2005]
- Statistical Tests Are Unraveling Knotty Literary Mysteries (Oz, Federalist Papers, etc.) [04/18/2005]
- Sinner Survival [04/18/2005]
- "By the Dawn's Early Light" [02/25/2005]
- People Don't Write That Way Anymore [Freeper-run magazine article] [02/07/2005]
- A Classic Anti-Semite? Try William Shakespeare [01/30/2005]
- Homer, Shakespeare, Pope, and George Bush [01/28/2005]
- Italian Duo's Fate Like Romeo and Juliet... [01/22/2005]
- Gay history month to 'out' Newton and Nightingale (Is there anybody who WASN'T gay?) [01/18/2005]
- Grammar for Smarties("Why Oh Why" books' success prove we're serious about the care of our language) [01/10/2005]
- Putting a Still-Vexed Play in a Historical Context [movie review: The Merchant of Venice] [12/30/2004]
- The Classics in the Slums (The Value of Literature) [12/23/2004]
- UK Muslims use Shakespeare to boost image [ULTRA-BARFOLA] [11/25/2004]
- UK Muslims get Shakespeare boost [11/25/2004]
- We American People... (Shakespeare's Ultimatum for Bin Laden) [10/31/2004]
- Macbeth's Castle Unearthed In Inverness Garden? [05/28/2004]
- Remember Gargoyles; A Very Good Cartoon Series (Vanity) [03/29/2004]
- Vanity - The Elections in Spain [03/15/2004]
- Shakespeare and suicide bombers [To barf or not to barf. That is the ...] [03/01/2004]
- Farewell Mapplethorpe, Hello Shakespeare (Roger Kimball on NEA, the W. way) [01/29/2004]
- Church where Shakespeare is buried beneath under threat [01/03/2004]
- At Least Shakespeare's Tyrants Went Down Fighting [12/18/2003]
- A little Shakespeare to go with the war [12/17/2003]
- The Post-Modernist Fools Among Us<br> -- Falstaffs At The Gates... [11/30/2003]
- A little Shakespeare to go with the war [11/18/2003]
- A little Shakespeare to go with the war [11/07/2003]
- A little Shakespeare to go with the War [11/04/2003]
- A little Shakespeare to go with the war. [11/03/2003]
- Mrs. Bush Attends Polish Fund-Raiser [10/27/2003]
- Joseph Sobran Examines Martin Luther King's Dream -- 40 Years Later [09/01/2003]
- Shakespeare Isn't P.C. (Thought Police Rewrite Textbooks) [08/19/2003]
- Original American Sin [07/06/2003]
- Yellow books should be for phone numbers (Shakespeare Needs No Dumbing Down) [06/10/2003]
- Anthropologist says Shakespeare might have smoked marijuana [05/13/2003]
- Aziz exposed as Nixon and Woody Allen buff [04/11/2003]
- Spoiled Milk [03/31/2003]
- "We Few, We Happy Few, We Band Of Brothers": In Honor Of Messrs. John Howard And Tony Blair [03/24/2003]
- Band of Brothers [03/23/2003]
- The Feast of St. Crispian (Vanity) [03/19/2003]
- Shakespeare on War [03/06/2003]
- Westcott and Hort part 1 [02/28/2003]
- Why Shakespeare Is For All Time [01/14/2003]
- Lear, Tolstoy and the Fool [10/19/2002]
- Dessert First [10/18/2002]
- A Scholar Recants on His 'Shakespeare' Discovery [06/25/2002]
- Odd Portrait Has Many Guessing Shakespeare Was Gay [04/23/2002]
- Odd Portrait Has Many Guessing Shakespeare Was Gay [04/23/2002]
- Shakes-Queer? New Evidence Emerges to Prove William Shakespeare may be Gay [04/21/2002]
- "Twelfth Night", or What You Will [03/22/2002]
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posted on
10/21/2026 7:12:21 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(TDS -- it's not just for DNC shills and jihadists anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
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