Posted on 08/11/2025 2:52:05 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
Original Airdate: 06/03/1970
Apollo 13 Crew - Jim Lovell, Fred Haise, and Jack Swigert | Carson Tonight Show | 24:22
Johnny Carson | 1.15M subscribers | 430,658 views | February 3, 2023
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--> YouTube-Generated Transcript <-- 0:00 · it really is a great honor to present my 0:01 · next get our first guest tonight I 0:03 · suppose the word 0:05 · hero sounds corny at times but I don't 0:07 · think you have Heroes anymore and maybe 0:09 · uh some but the youngsters need Heroes 0:11 · nowadays and they probably get tired of 0:12 · that word they would consider themselves 0:14 · I suppose 0:15 · professional test pilots uh and which 0:18 · say 0:18 · all right a tremendous skill but there's 0:21 · just been over a month since uh their 0:23 · great courage and skill under 0:24 · tremendously adverse conditions uh 0:27 · made them uh Heroes of the entire world 0:30 · would you please welcome the Apollo 13 0:31 · team James Lovell Fred Hayes and Jack 0:34 · Swaggart I don't know 0:39 · [Music] 0:44 · [Applause] 1:08 · [Music] 1:10 · foreign 1:14 · [Music] 1:21 · [Music] 1:36 · since I've been doing this show in seven 1:39 · and a half years that I've seen an 1:40 · entire studio audience uh get to their 1:43 · feet and applaud and uh you've received 1:46 · a lot of that since you've come back 1:48 · it must be an emotional type of thing I 1:51 · mentioned you fellas I use the word 1:52 · Heroes which I said you I know you've 1:54 · said it before in interviews that you 1:55 · don't consider yourself for that at all 1:56 · Captain right 1:57 · well as a matter of fact uh we didn't 1:59 · know just how the world was taking it 2:01 · until we actually got back on the ground 2:03 · that's right you're really the last 2:05 · you're always trying to find out about 2:07 · it 2:08 · you know I never thought of it that way 2:09 · it was uh after meeting all the people 2:12 · and uh 2:13 · and appreciating the uh 2:15 · the feeling and the emotion that they 2:18 · had I sort of feel like maybe I missed 2:20 · something being up there 2:22 · we missed all the excitement you know 2:24 · yeah 2:26 · were you were you kind of amazed at the 2:28 · outpouring of emotion from countries all 2:30 · over the world not just the United 2:31 · States but I can't remember a time when 2:33 · there's been a circumstance where 2:35 · somebody has been in in that kind of uh 2:38 · of a situation where the entire world uh 2:40 · and foreign countries and and the the 2:42 · even the Communist Bloc in all of the 2:44 · countries of the world seem to to join 2:46 · together for a moment a real little maze 2:48 · at that reaction he got back yes I think 2:50 · this is what uh really struck us that uh 2:53 · for perhaps just an instant maybe the 2:56 · whole world was together 2:57 · it's funny they seem to get together on 2:59 · things like science don't they they were 3:01 · in a common in a common crises we all 3:04 · seem to join hands we sure do just like 3:06 · one human being helping another 3:08 · you're you're Captain right now uh Jim 3:10 · yes Johnny and uh Fred you're uh Thomas 3:13 · you're civilian and Jack also civilian I 3:16 · was sort of outnumbered uh being in the 3:18 · military yes captain in the Navy right I 3:21 · was a I was an innocent in the Navy 3:26 · you know what being an engine in the 3:28 · Navy it's like being a hood ornament on 3:29 · an Edsel 3:30 · yeah 3:32 · there's not much call for that 3:35 · you had a busy day today haven't you 3:37 · what's what's been happening since 3:38 · you've been in New York 3:39 · well we had lunch with mayor Lindsay 3:41 · today it was very nice 3:43 · and we had a press conference uh 3:48 · and your show tonight followed by a play 3:51 · you're gonna see a play and then there's 3:53 · another I think a reception later on 3:54 · tonight because 3:55 · the mayor also is or not and he told me 3:58 · that your car was double parked down 4:00 · below and the police towed it away 4:03 · our mayor would throw away your capsule 4:05 · if it landed in New York 4:09 · [Applause] 4:15 · you probably uh been asked every 4:18 · question in the book on what they call a 4:20 · debriefing and David Brinkley wants that 4:22 · on television he never understood the 4:24 · term debriefing he says why not a 4:26 · briefing when you got back what's what's 4:27 · the difference between a briefing and a 4:28 · debriefing 4:30 · anybody any fellas you would ask us 4:33 · those techniques 4:35 · France is English major well I wanted 4:38 · debriefing I think the briefing would 4:41 · constitute the preparation and the 4:43 · training we go through getting ready to 4:45 · fly the flight and debriefing is where 4:48 · we we give our comments on how each 4:51 · phase worked and how we felt maybe our 4:54 · training was deficient and what we 4:56 · should do better the next time what was 4:58 · the greatest thrill when you got back 4:59 · outside I suppose talking to your wives 5:00 · Jack is a is a bachelor and talking to 5:04 · the president well on board the ship 5:06 · they had a little Communications link up 5:08 · with us we had three phones and it was 5:10 · sort of a one-sided conversation all 5:12 · three of us were talking at one time and 5:14 · Fred and I were talking to our wives and 5:16 · Jack was talking to the entire 5:18 · Continental airline stewardess Corps 5:20 · [Music] 5:23 · Jack has flown before hasn't he 5:27 · I thought I was going to get by without 5:29 · Jim making some comment about that but 5:31 · he didn't last time we really set it up 5:32 · for me in Chicago he said that a a 5:34 · bachelor is like a new detergent that's 5:37 · uh one that works fast and leaves no 5:39 · rings 5:44 · what are you doing about 11 30 every 5:46 · night 5:49 · we have an opening on a staff gym if you 5:51 · can come up with this stuff you can come 5:53 · up with this stuff every night you know 5:54 · you probably get tired of that don't you 5:55 · jack because uh you're one of the few 5:57 · bachelors in the whole program I guess 5:59 · of NASA right yes and that they you'll 6:02 · always have to have something to say now 6:03 · they can talk about your kids and your 6:05 · wife and so forth but I remember you 6:07 · because you went in through with three 6:08 · days notice on this slide right yes and 6:11 · uh they weren't prepared for that and it 6:13 · drove the newsmen crazy because they 6:15 · weren't quite prepared to report on Jack 6:17 · swankert and they ran around I saw them 6:18 · interviewing your landlord 6:21 · you know and the landlord says yes he's 6:23 · a his nice place here he lives right 6:25 · here 6:28 · laughs 6:30 · at the time that this happened 6:32 · um 6:33 · when you first knew that you had the 6:35 · trouble that something was wrong who's 6:36 · the first to know you were the first one 6:37 · I think the radio back to Mission 6:39 · Control in Houston right no actually it 6:40 · was Jack Jack was the man who said uh I 6:43 · think we have a problem here 6:46 · so I guess I guess turned out to be the 6:49 · understatement of the century I guess 6:50 · you know the funny thing we were going 6:52 · to get a recording uh from NASA of that 6:55 · particular time when it happened 6:56 · thinking it would be very exciting you 6:58 · know and intense but the strange thing 7:00 · about it is we we listened to it 7:02 · and it sounded like you had reported 7:04 · that the uh you know you didn't get your 7:06 · dime back from the pay phone or 7:07 · something it was it wasn't exciting at 7:09 · all in the context and the way you 7:11 · handle it is that is that because of the 7:12 · tremendous training and you're ready for 7:15 · this kind of a contingency and you just 7:17 · automatically react and then the 7:19 · emotions come a little bit later 7:21 · well I think that actually we didn't 7:23 · know really how serious the situation 7:24 · was at the time and uh as it started to 7:27 · get more serious our voices got a little 7:29 · bit more tense if you listen to the 7:31 · tapes closely it took about 45 minutes 7:34 · for I guess the problem to develop in 7:36 · its fullest 7:38 · can you remember back this is probably 7:39 · terribly difficult with all the things 7:41 · that you have to do and with shutting 7:43 · down one system and been doing all the 7:45 · technical things you have to do 7:47 · but can you remember in your mind what 7:49 · your was there fear at the time I 7:52 · suppose there was thinking that this 7:54 · possibly could be a fatal uh 7:57 · thing that could happen and you would 7:58 · could be possibly stranded or that the 8:01 · whole the unit would would explode or 8:03 · something is that moment of uh 8:05 · of saying good happens this this is it 8:07 · the percentages have caught up 8:10 · well I guess everybody kind of you know 8:11 · faces that situation where they say uh 8:13 · gee any place but here anybody but me 8:16 · and uh but there's only one thing to do 8:18 · in a situation like that as we talked 8:20 · about it that is you have to just keep 8:22 · charging forward and uh you know do 8:24 · everything possible to get back home 8:25 · again and I suppose everybody go ahead 8:27 · Ben yeah there's another Point too uh we 8:30 · have uh backups for everything and we 8:32 · were we were never in a position 8:34 · to where we didn't at least have one 8:36 · more direction to go in this case the 8:38 · limb so 8:40 · if I charge them the limb and turned it 8:42 · on and found something wrong there then 8:44 · I would have maybe got a lot more 8:46 · concerned that could have been the ball 8:47 · game right there huh 8:48 · yeah that's that's fascinating I think 8:50 · it was Alan Shepard once who said they 8:52 · asked him how he felt when they made the 8:54 · first flight and he said it was a 8:55 · strange feeling traveling around the 8:57 · Earth in a vehicle 8:58 · in which you know every part was made by 9:00 · the lowest bidder 9:04 · I don't know 9:08 · affect me trigger's your joke there 9:12 · you fellas didn't have any of this uh on 9:14 · the drip you know the saying too soon 9:16 · too old too late do you agree Edward 9:19 · well a lot of people know you're never 9:22 · too old to smarten up about some things 9:24 · for example I know that if you want to 9:27 · stay on the young side you should 9:29 · exercise and you should eat sensibly one 9:31 · way is by starting the day with a good 9:33 · breakfast like Kellogg's Product 19. 9:37 · it's the cereal with 100 percent of the 9:40 · minimum daily adult requirements for 9:42 · vitamins and iron a Powerhouse and 9:45 · delicious so get back on the young side 9:49 · start right now with Kellogg's Product 9:51 · like knee 9:56 · we're talking with the uh Apollo 13 9:58 · astronauts Jim you lost what 14 pounds 10:00 · on us 14. 10:03 · was that because the food is getting 10:04 · worse or getting better well the food 10:07 · was is getting better but we followed 10:09 · your instructions on your show a few 10:10 · months ago and uh we didn't know how to 10:12 · eat it they sent us some food from uh 10:16 · when they had the mock-up upstairs here 10:17 · in in the studio made H I guess and one 10:19 · night we tried it you said your wife uh 10:21 · my wife saw it she's here tonight uh yes 10:24 · where where's your wife sitting would 10:26 · you like to meet Mrs where were you Mrs 10:27 · lava because I've seen you on magazines 10:30 · how are you right 10:45 · yeah I guess what's that Winston 10:46 · Churchill said they also serve who also 10:48 · only stand and wait that's must be very 10:50 · very tough on wives and children uh to 10:54 · wait for you but the food yeah we had it 10:56 · one night and we didn't do it right or 10:57 · something we were putting you said a 10:59 · moment ago watering the things we 11:00 · shouldn't have put water in 11:03 · I don't think we should ever go on a 11:06 · trip Ed they haven't made they have not 11:09 · made the booster yet they can get you 11:14 · since I've lost all this weight are you 11:15 · still doing these heavy jokes about I 11:17 · don't know if nothing else 11:19 · uh I was asking Jim during the 11:21 · commercial break here when the next uh 11:22 · is this this is delayed somewhat the 11:25 · next uh projected flight has enough yes 11:27 · uh it was originally scheduled sometime 11:30 · in October and now probably the earliest 11:31 · weekend launches in December 11:33 · have they as of yet determined what went 11:37 · wrong with any degree of certainty that 11:40 · I know that you blew out what 11:41 · practically the whole side panel of the 11:42 · main booster right and they thought it 11:44 · was what in a battery uh well we lost of 11:47 · course uh all of our electrical power 11:49 · the three fuel cells and the two oxygen 11:51 · tanks and I'll refer to my Command 11:53 · Module expert to give you yeah Jack what 11:55 · do you think there which means that he 11:56 · can't quite technically get the answer 11:58 · to this 12:02 · that's what's known as the commander 12:05 · passing the buck uh no the uh 12:08 · the the problem laying the number two 12:10 · oxygen tank and uh we know that it was a 12:13 · right now a short uh in the wiring I 12:17 · don't think that uh that they have quite 12:19 · uh 12:21 · completely identified it out to be 12:23 · truthful I've been gone from the review 12:26 · board and I haven't followed their uh 12:28 · the progress of the review board so I 12:30 · haven't got the latest uh information on 12:34 · what exactly happened and since you did 12:35 · have the jettison that part 12:38 · um they don't really have any tangible 12:40 · evidence to lay their hands on do they 12:42 · just kind of have to go by what could 12:44 · have happened and then get rid of the 12:45 · Alternatives I suppose well it's amazing 12:47 · what they can do with just Telemetry we 12:49 · jettison of course the part that went 12:51 · wrong right but all the readouts that 12:53 · the ground had gotten from Telemetry in 12:55 · the communications during the incident 12:57 · and after uh plus their analysis allowed 13:00 · themselves to analyze the situation and 13:03 · come up with the answer 13:05 · was there any time that you thought that 13:07 · the backup system that you possibly 13:11 · it seems like a dumb question and I 13:13 · don't mean it morbidly but it crosses 13:15 · people's minds that you know you've 13:17 · probably seen the motion picture that 13:18 · made maroon where they were stranded 13:21 · that does that ever crossed your mind at 13:22 · any time when you go on one of these 13:24 · these flights and you've got more time 13:25 · uh in space than anybody else Jim that's 13:28 · saying what would I do in fact if this 13:32 · did happen I mean the possibility I 13:34 · guess always exists in any dangerous 13:36 · thing a human error mechanical air is 13:38 · there uh even with the greatest 13:40 · expertise that what would you do 13:44 · if you couldn't get back I know that 13:45 · sounds like an insipid question but I'm 13:48 · sure that you must have thought about it 13:50 · philosophically some someplace well I 13:52 · think everybody in in the program has 13:54 · that thought that feeling we of course 13:57 · look at it from the fact that we make 14:00 · things so reliable and so redundant that 14:02 · it's only a remote possibility and 14:05 · really we just put it out of our minds 14:06 · we have to otherwise we'd never make a 14:08 · flight you could never really function 14:09 · could you as a Professional Engineers 14:12 · under those circumstances 14:13 · I was wondering if it was planned 14:15 · beforehand that if something like this 14:17 · went wrong was the lamb supposed to be 14:18 · used as this way was that planned in the 14:21 · program or is that a surprise thing that 14:23 · just developed because you had no other 14:24 · choice let me let Fred answer that he's 14:26 · our limb expert 14:29 · they had had some procedures uh way back 14:32 · in the back room somewhere where a long 14:35 · time ago someone had envisioned using 14:37 · the lamb as a Lifeboat they were pretty 14:40 · dusty 14:41 · the only thing we had planned to use the 14:43 · land for in that regard was we had a 14:45 · procedure written in case the main 14:48 · engine on the Command Module failed 14:50 · burning in the lunar orbit part way 14:53 · you then would Scurry into the limb and 14:55 · fire it up and use this engine to get 14:57 · you headed back home 14:59 · and uh I bet they've done an update on 15:01 · that haven't they on how to use that 15:03 · again but we never really envisioned 15:05 · powering down the Command Module we 15:07 · always had the Command Module electrical 15:10 · system and oxygen system as a life 15:13 · support system one of the great problems 15:15 · was the was the cold wasn't it it got 15:17 · down to what 38 38 degrees 38 degrees 15:20 · and one of you of course had to stay up 15:23 · at all times to monitor the and do the 15:26 · readouts I suppose on the systems we 15:28 · have a short piece of film here I think 15:30 · you did this on the way back right 15:32 · after all this problem still not really 15:35 · even knowing I guess to whether you got 15:37 · into the right window as they say to 15:38 · re-enter so watch the monitor here in 15:40 · the studio and gentlemen if he'll tell 15:43 · us what the you're doing it at the time 15:45 · uh Bobby you want to roll the tape 15:47 · please here we are 15:50 · what you're looking at now is the 15:51 · Command Module it's down to about 38 15:53 · degrees uh very cold and it's completely 15:56 · dead nothing's working and you just saw 15:58 · the hash that was oh that's up through 16:00 · the tunnel as they say that's right 16:01 · right into the through the tunnel and 16:02 · back into uh the Aquarius the lunar 16:05 · module and 16:06 · Jack the interesting thing is that when 16:08 · you're right side up in the Command 16:09 · Module and you come down the tunnel 16:11 · you're upside down in the limbs so it 16:12 · takes a while to to get reoriented 16:15 · do you have any sense of direction uh 16:20 · here at all whether you're upside down 16:21 · or not since there's no Direction really 16:23 · such in space is there only visual uh 16:26 · you have no balance of course isn't your 16:28 · weight loss I mean up or down is 16:31 · relative right there's our little tape 16:33 · recorder which we played the theme from 16:34 · 2001. 16:38 · after all of this trouble you got you 16:40 · listen to a radio show 16:42 · and Jack's asleep back there near the 16:45 · hatch he was trying to get a little shut 16:47 · eye at the time 16:48 · the thing about our photography is we 16:50 · had to take it just when the light came 16:51 · around because we didn't want to use any 16:52 · interior lights because it'd use power 16:54 · oh I see so we had to shut down 16:56 · everything that wasn't necessary to save 16:58 · power are you turning at this time yes 17:00 · we are turning and there's Fred with his 17:02 · hand in his uh shirt there uh going 17:05 · sound asleep trying to get a little 17:06 · shutout keeps your hands from floating 17:08 · floating up bother you when you're 17:09 · sleeping I never thought of that 17:13 · there's a gym or is that yeah we had 17:15 · just one person who had the watch he 17:17 · wore the Hat with the communications and 17:19 · the rest of people were I know you're 17:21 · having dinner there yep there's Jack 17:22 · eating right now and it's amazing we can 17:24 · actually use a spoon and in zero gravity 17:27 · if there's enough viscosity in the fluid 17:31 · I think this is uh right prior to entry 17:34 · uh Jim and I were going up or uh through 17:36 · the entry procedures they required a lot 17:39 · of close cooperation with Jim and the 17:40 · lamb and myself in the Command Module 17:42 · you see Jim uh rubbing his hands there 17:45 · and that's because it was just that cool 17:49 · of course there was a time just before 17:51 · this last mid-course or the mid course 17:53 · 105 hours when we would still have 17:55 · missed the Earth and so we had to make 17:56 · this particular maneuver uh to make sure 17:59 · we got captured by the atmosphere right 18:01 · otherwise we'd have skipped off into uh 18:03 · into space again that's what they call 18:05 · about the re-entry angle that has to be 18:06 · so precise that you don't enter too fast 18:08 · then you don't enter too shallow that 18:10 · you as you say skip back into 18:13 · right skip away from the orbit 18:17 · actually these pictures were taken with 18:19 · a wide angle lens that Fred held most 18:21 · the time and makes the interior of 18:24 · Aquarius a lot roomier than it actually 18:26 · is 18:28 · it was sort of uh you know people get 18:30 · the impression when you see this on 18:31 · television that it's rather roomy and 18:33 · yet it's really not at all is it 18:35 · there's an advantage of zero g I shot my 18:38 · own pictures just by turning the camera 18:39 · and moving it away while it was still 18:41 · running 18:46 · what we're doing here we're trying to 18:47 · still everything you know we couldn't uh 18:49 · we couldn't dump anything over overboard 18:51 · which presented a problem for three days 18:52 · as you might think so we had a stow it 18:55 · in all kinds of containers 18:57 · and the waste products got to be quite 18:59 · deep there after a while 19:03 · I guess we've become space litter bugs 19:05 · already haven't we by she has 19:18 · to the average person who really is so 19:21 · hard for us to relate to that do you 19:23 · ever get tired of The Thrill Is it a 19:25 · tremendous tremendous thrill when you 19:27 · another dumb question I suppose when you 19:29 · get out and you look back and you see 19:31 · the Earth 19:32 · uh just hanging there it must give you 19:35 · some some strange feelings I think it 19:38 · does make all the astronauts that are 19:42 · flowing a bit philosophical 19:43 · I would think so you kind of got to 19:45 · think back and kind of puts it in 19:47 · perspective doesn't it you put the whole 19:49 · earth just in the in your hand you know 19:50 · and it really makes it uh it makes you 19:52 · wonder actually a minor planet is 19:54 · somebody once said 19:56 · um now you haven't been on the moon 19:58 · and uh and yet this was really a 20:01 · triumphant uh space journey because it 20:03 · proved that the backup system does work 20:05 · and prove that the equipment is reliable 20:07 · are you going to fly again 20:10 · well I would like to uh I seem to be 20:12 · disappointed you know going twice to the 20:14 · moon and not quite getting down there 20:15 · however uh down at Houston there are a 20:17 · lot of people who are well qualified and 20:19 · who have not yet flown and so uh my wife 20:22 · won't let me just 20:24 · well I suppose she may have a slight 20:28 · Reasoner not wanting to go through that 20:29 · again Fred how about you 20:31 · but I think the probably the true 20:34 · statement would be that every every guy 20:36 · in the office would like to fly every 20:38 · flight 20:39 · that's really impossible because for 20:42 · instance while we were training two 20:43 · other Crews were training same time 14 20:45 · and 15. 20:46 · and that's really not possible I 20:49 · certainly would personally like to have 20:51 · another chance Jack what are your 20:54 · feelings that's my feelings too I 20:55 · suppose all the fellas would like it to 20:57 · have that unique honor it everything 21:00 · came about in my case so fast that I 21:04 · really you know I was sitting there 21:06 · right on the launch pad and about 30 21:08 · minutes prior to launch when they 21:10 · hauled back the swing arm I told Jim I 21:12 · said you know I really think they're 21:14 · serious about launching me 21:17 · I was trying to think of a question 21:19 · today that you might not have been asked 21:21 · and it's it's pretty tough 21:23 · and this may sound dumb 21:26 · suppose and people have said this they 21:28 · know pretty well technically what the 21:30 · moon was and what it was composed of and 21:33 · that there was no 21:35 · the gravity was 1 6 and there's no air 21:37 · and so forth and so on 21:39 · but supposed to have been some people 21:40 · have said well possibly maybe they're 21:42 · people or civilizations had you know 21:45 · you've heard this right and have arrived 21:47 · there maybe many many years ago and live 21:49 · say underground right with their own 21:52 · type of gravity and oxygen supply and so 21:54 · forth is there anything in the NASA 21:56 · program that would prepare you 21:58 · if you landed on the moon 22:01 · right this sounds like it's not a dumb 22:04 · question and all of a sudden you look 22:05 · over and you see two 22:07 · people 22:09 · fellas coming out of a 22:13 · do they prepare you for that what you 22:15 · would say 22:16 · uh or how you deal with this at all well 22:19 · that doesn't sound strange there's still 22:20 · a lot of people who believe that there 22:21 · are people on the moon but they're 22:22 · living underground I think Jim's going 22:24 · to say that's why they took a bachelor 22:25 · law that's why 22:29 · [Applause] 22:39 · and answered your question about getting 22:41 · philosophical uh we did get a bit 22:43 · philosophical and we we brought you 22:46 · something tonight that we thought maybe 22:47 · you'd like to Oh Yeah from our crew here 22:50 · we know that uh you were a magician at 22:52 · one time and still are as a matter of 22:54 · fact I saw some of your card tricks and 22:56 · so we thought we'd present this little 22:57 · picture to you with the caption perhaps 22:59 · you'd like to read 23:00 · oh it's not great 23:02 · it says I'll read it then I'll show you 23:04 · the picture so she has a beautiful 23:06 · picture it says to the great carsoni you 23:08 · found that out huh 23:10 · do you think you're a magician try 23:12 · making this disappear since your best 23:14 · wishes the Apollo 13 crew and they've 23:15 · all signed it and of course look at that 23:17 · magnificent shot of the Earth from space 23:21 · [Applause] 23:33 · California 23:35 · I will treasure that very very much and 23:37 · I thank you gentlemen I know you've had 23:39 · a long day you know you'll have more 23:41 · plans for this evening and all I can say 23:44 · that you you've been hearing many many 23:45 · times it's it's great to have you back 23:48 · it was a magnificent magnificent feat 23:51 · and I think the whole entire world was 23:53 · tremendously proud of you and it's a 23:54 · great thrill to have you here tonight 23:56 · Jim pleasure thank you thank you 23:58 · [Music] 23:59 · [Applause] 24:01 · [Music] 24:02 · [Applause] 24:04 · [Music] 24:04 · [Applause]
"A bachelor is like a new detergent that's one that works fast and leaves no rings."
Johnny Carson was a great interviewer.
Thanks for the link.
Thank you. One of the pinnacles of human experiences.
that was terrific
“”””hero sounds corny at times but I don’t think you have Heroes anymore and maybe uh some but the youngsters need Heroes nowadays”””””
I love Johnny, but this opening could have been worded differently.
If anyone has forgotten how the Vietnam War was treated in the media, this was the year 1970, over 6,000 of our men were killed that year, almost 12,000 the year before, and thousands more to come, and many thousands before, and that doesn’t count the maimed and mangled, disfigured and amputees.
In 1970 men were earning Medals of Honor and Silver Stars, and everything else, heroes by the thousands, but......Vietnam.
I sure miss Carson. Used to watch him as a young man and on and on.
I was at Glacier National Park at the time. I remember seeing a headline on a Newspaper still on display. It was not until the movie came out that I realized everything that happened.
The DC Daily News had a big, bold headline:
APOLLO 13 OFF COURSE!
I remember following it as it unfolded, but also having a young mind’s trust and near-certainty that, after all the space program had accomplished, they would be coming home. Anyway, thanks all, great comments!
I too miss Carson, and that amazing run of space missions of the 60s and early 70s. I’ve played the Youtube vid of Neil and Buzz as they descended to the lunar surface, and it has been synced with whatever camera was recording out the window.
For most missions we didn’t see most of that stuff, we saw cartoons and diagrams with the intermittent soundtrack of Mission Control and the astronauts. And almost no ads. :^)
But even though I know that they made that first landing, listening to that recording again really was gripping.
“That’s why you put Armstrong in charge...”
https://search.brave.com/videos?q=dave%20scott%20recounting%20neil%20on%20gemini%208
In before the fake moon landing moon bats. 🦇
I was surfing some more vids, and those loons are all over the comments sections.
I remember some file footage from one of the documentaries, a moving theater marquee announcing that they’d made it down safely. Lovell at least used to claim that, of all the Apollo splashdowns, 13 landed closest to the recovery ship involved.
I was working pickpocket detail in downtown DC.
That usually meant hanging around bus stops.
One of them had a newspaper machine that sold tabloids.
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