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Watch live as a Super Heavy booster and Starship launch on a critical test flight for SpaceX's fully reusable rocket, following two consecutive failures of the Starship upper stage.
Liftoff of the 9th fully integrated Starship from SpaceX's Starbase facility at Boca Chica Beach, in Texas, is scheduled for 6:30 p.m. CDT / 7:30 p.m. EDT / 2330 UTC on Tuesday, May 27.
A highlight of the mission will be the reuse of a Super Heavy booster for the first time. The booster will not return for a catch by the launch tower but will instead make a hard splashdown off-shore to allow for more testing.
Our live coverage, hosted by Will Robinson-Smith, will begin two hours before launch and is brought to you in partnership with LabPadre.
Unbelievable!
After decades of glacial progress, Blue Orgin has announced that they'll be landing their Mark 1 Blue Moon lander on the Lunar surface THIS YEAR!
What happens if Jeff Bezos is ready before Elon Musk?Surprise! Blue Origin will land on the Moon before SpaceX Starship! | 18:39
The Angry Astronaut | 192K subscribers | 18,354 views | May 25, 2025
--> YouTube-Generated Transcript <-- 0:04 · [Music] 0:23 · if I'm being honest this is the moment 0:26 · where everything changed for me when it 0:28 · comes to Blue Origin the moment when a 0:31 · company actually has a successful flight 0:34 · and in this case a very successful 0:37 · flight that earns them a generous 0:40 · measure of respect from the angry 0:42 · astronaut especially if it was the first 0:45 · flight yes it took Blue Origin forever 0:49 · to get to this point years and years 0:52 · later than they were expecting and yet 0:54 · they still insisted on being treated 0:57 · like any other company that had already 0:59 · reached orbit and were willing to file 1:02 · multiple lawsuits to enforce their claim 1:05 · i never respected that and I still don't 1:08 · but when it comes right down to it Blue 1:10 · Origin has finally reached the point to 1:13 · where other companies need to be 1:16 · respectful of their accomplishments and 1:19 · they deserve some contracts at this 1:21 · point and they have definitely earned 1:23 · some even from the US military but all 1:27 · of that having been said one flight of 1:30 · their flagship rocket is definitely not 1:33 · enough certainly they're not going to 1:35 · accomplish the same things that SpaceX 1:37 · is going to be accomplishing in the next 1:39 · few years especially if we're talking 1:42 · about Artemis missions obviously SpaceX 1:45 · has a big lead with Starship and we can 1:48 · expect Lunar Starship to be landing on 1:50 · the lunar surface well before Blue Moon 1:53 · does well hold on for a minute because 1:56 · it seems that Blue Origin has other 1:59 · plans indeed if everything goes the way 2:02 · Jeff Bezos plans the first blue moon 2:05 · mission will take place this year well 2:08 · before lunar starship comes anywhere 2:10 · close to cis lunar 2:16 · space good morning and welcome to 2:19 · another angry bulletin from Manhattan 2:23 · New York and uh really looking forward 2:27 · to the flight that I'm about to take 2:29 · that's going to take me back to London 2:32 · back to the UK the place where at least 2:34 · most of the time I like to call home 2:37 · although really I end up traveling all 2:39 · over the world it's tough for me to 2:42 · determine exactly where I live on a 2:44 · permanent basis but still plan to be in 2:47 · the UK for several months at least in 2:50 · the meantime we need to talk about Blue 2:53 · Origin a topic that usually goes 2:56 · handinhand with harsh criticism on this 2:59 · channel i've been rather vicious and 3:02 · ruthless when it comes to criticizing 3:05 · Jeff Bezos and his stepbystep 3:08 · ferociously policy which has generally 3:11 · meant stepbystep and doing nothing 3:14 · however that's changed lately my 3:17 · philosophy always is show me something 3:21 · impressive and my opinion about you 3:24 · folks might change and that applied to 3:27 · SLS i was just nonstop criticizing SLS 3:32 · until actually managed to toss the Orion 3:36 · spacecraft into lunar orbit came back 3:40 · without any sort of significant issue 3:43 · sure maybe a couple things with the heat 3:44 · shield but overall it was close to 3:47 · flawless on the first flight it's 3:50 · impressive and certainly deserves at 3:52 · least some respect and that is the case 3:56 · with New Glenn as well in spite of the 3:58 · enormous time that elapsed before this 4:01 · rocket finally took flight didn't just 4:04 · reach orbit actually reached a pretty 4:07 · aggressive orbit with a very high 4:10 · perigan apogee and again I think quite 4:14 · impressive for a rocket's first flight 4:17 · sure the booster didn't land on the 4:19 · first try but that was to be expected i 4:23 · would have liked Blue Origin to have 4:24 · shown us more details to actually show 4:27 · the booster plunging into the ocean or 4:31 · attempting to land something along those 4:33 · lines but unfortunately up to this point 4:35 · we haven't seen much of anything from 4:37 · that but one announcement we have gotten 4:41 · which is very very impressive from my 4:45 · perspective is the notion that Blue 4:47 · Origin may be setting the unmanned 4:50 · version of their Blue Moonland lander on 4:52 · the lunar surface before the end of the 4:54 · year that is their stated objective not 4:58 · only that they've also rolled out the 5:01 · details for their Earth to Moon 5:04 · transport that is to say a refueling tug 5:07 · essentially that carries fuel to lunar 5:10 · orbit rather than doing the refueling in 5:13 · Earth orbit and this of course being an 5:16 · absolutely crucial part of their whole 5:19 · HLS design the ability to refuel in 5:23 · lunar orbit before setting down on the 5:26 · moon any reusable lunar lander is going 5:29 · to have to have that refueling 5:32 · capability so what does all of this mean 5:35 · is Blue Origin really going to set down 5:38 · on the moon this year and if so does 5:41 · that mean they may have a humanrated 5:44 · spacecraft ready for a lunar mission 5:47 · before SpaceX does 5:53 · in the course of this video I'm going to 5:55 · be quoting extensively from two articles 5:58 · one from 6:00 · aviationweek.com and the other from 6:02 · spacnews.com we'll start off with the 6:05 · aviation week article quote Blue Origin 6:08 · will attempt to land an uncrrewed 6:10 · prototype of its human landing system on 6:13 · the moon south pole this year according 6:16 · to John Kures senior vice president of 6:18 · lunar permanence and this was a 6:20 · statement made on May 20th just a few 6:23 · days ago the company's HLS is one of two 6:27 · in development in partnership with NASA 6:29 · to support crude landings on the moon 6:32 · under the Aremis program nasa awarded 6:34 · the first of two hls flight service 6:38 · contracts to SpaceX which plans to use a 6:40 · variant of its still in development 6:42 · Starship Superheavy system for NASA's 6:45 · Aremis 3 and four missions blue Origins 6:49 · HLS was tapped for Artemis 5 okay none 6:52 · of that is new let's see what else is 6:55 · going on blue Origins Mark 1 which is 6:58 · slated to launch this year on a 7:00 · shakedown mission to the lunar south 7:02 · pole is designed to carry nearly 3.9 7:06 · tons to any location on the moon's 7:08 · surface by contrast the small fleet of 7:11 · small robotic landers that NASA is 7:14 · backing under its commercial lunar 7:16 · payload services contract are designed 7:19 · to carry about one ton powered by a 7:22 · single liquid oxygen and liquid 7:24 · hydrogenfueled BE7 engine the Mark1 will 7:28 · launch aboard a Blue Origin New Glenn 7:30 · rocket and aim to touch down within 33 7:33 · ft of its intended target or 10 m and 7:37 · this is according to an announcement 7:38 · that Gurus made at the opening day of 7:41 · the lunar surface innovation consortium 7:44 · conference at the John's Hopkins 7:46 · University Applied Physics Lab in 7:48 · Maryland assembly of the BE7 flight unit 7:51 · is nearly complete and is expected to 7:53 · ship out to Johnson Space Center in 7:56 · Houston in about 6 weeks for thermal 7:58 · vacuum chamber testing quote "Once 8:01 · that's done it'll come to Cape Canaveral 8:03 · get integrated get encapsulated and then 8:06 · launch on New Glenn a few months after 8:08 · that." Once again according to Coloris 8:11 · in addition to testing technologies and 8:13 · operations for future Mark 2 vehicles 8:16 · the Mark 1 will host some NASA and 8:19 · commercial payloads including a NASA 8:21 · awarded experiment to measure BE7 plume 8:25 · impingement on the lunar surface very 8:28 · important to gain an understanding of 8:30 · how much debris and how much regalith a 8:34 · rocket engine is going to kick up on the 8:36 · lunar surface because really big rocket 8:38 · engines could theoretically launch 8:41 · debris into lunar orbit which could be 8:44 · very hazardous for future missions 8:46 · gloris also unveiled an updated design 8:49 · for the hls systems transporter module 8:53 · the vehicle is designed to launch 8:55 · separately on a new Glenn and be 8:57 · refueled in low Earth orbit using excess 9:00 · propellant from the rocket's upper stage 9:02 · the transporter will then travel to 9:04 · lunar orbit and refuel an awaiting Blue 9:08 · Origin lander ahead of a crew arrival 9:11 · via the space launch system and Orion 9:14 · capsule so refueling being required here 9:17 · both in low Earth orbit and in lunar 9:20 · orbit given the fact that the human 9:23 · rated blue moonland lander is not nearly 9:25 · as massive as lunar starship I suspect 9:29 · it's going to require a lot less 9:31 · refueling than SpaceX's plans will 9:34 · require so the transporter is capable of 9:37 · bringing roughly 110 tons from Earth 9:40 · orbit to lunar orbit or up to 33 tons to 9:43 · Mars orbit and this opens up the solar 9:46 · system according to a ground 9:49 · demonstration of zero boiloff cryogenic 9:52 · propellant storage which is absolutely 9:54 · necessary if you're going to be 9:56 · refueling things in orbit is underway in 9:59 · Washington state where Blue Origin is 10:01 · based quote "By June we will be able to 10:04 · be showing that we are consistently 10:07 · holding cryogenic hydrogen oxygen as 10:10 · storeable propellant." That's again 10:12 · according to Kurus it will be the first 10:14 · time on this scale that we've done this 10:17 · by June next month now let me tell you 10:21 · something compared to everything that 10:23 · Blue Origin has done up to this point 10:25 · that is some very aggressive timing now 10:29 · although the transporter is not 10:31 · necessary for the unmanned version of 10:33 · Blue Moon to set down on the lunar 10:35 · surface it definitely is for the HLS 10:38 · version so let's learn a little bit more 10:41 · about it the company provided few 10:44 · details about the transporter at the 10:46 · time that they won the NASA contract 10:49 · $3.4 billion by the way originally the 10:53 · transporter was going to be developed by 10:55 · other companies that were part of the 10:57 · Blue Origin national team but industry 11:00 · sources said that Blue Origin has since 11:02 · taken over development entirely and I 11:06 · think that's a hell of an idea because 11:08 · the companies that they were going to be 11:11 · collaborating with the old legacy 11:13 · companies would have taken forever to 11:15 · get this job done quote "This vehicle 11:18 · has evolved significantly since we first 11:20 · won the contract." This again according 11:22 · to Coloris the purpose of the vehicle 11:25 · remains to aggregate liquid hydrogen and 11:27 · liquid oxygen propellant in Earth orbit 11:30 · and then transport it to a near rectal 11:32 · linear halo orbit around the moon where 11:35 · it will transfer the propellants to the 11:37 · blue moon lander to enable it to perform 11:39 · a lunar landing the transporter will be 11:42 · launched into low Earth orbit on a new 11:44 · Glenn rocket and then fueled using 11:46 · excess propellant from the new Glenn 11:48 · upper stage as we said before although 11:50 · he did not disclose how many refuelings 11:53 · would be required it will use tanks 7 m 11:56 · in diameter which is the same as the 11:58 · upper stage quote instead of doing 12:01 · bespoke tanks for individual vehicles 12:03 · it's using the same assembly line a key 12:06 · enabler for the system is zero boiloff 12:10 · technology to prevent losses of 12:12 · cryogenic propellants you always hear 12:14 · "Wow that's hard to do." And it is hard 12:16 · to do he said but he noted that the 12:19 · company is making progress on that zero 12:21 · boiloff technology that maintains liquid 12:24 · hydrogen at 20° Kelvin or 20° C above 12:29 · absolute zero and liquid oxygen at 90° 12:32 · Kelvin by the way something I've noticed 12:34 · about this design it has a sun shield 12:38 · absolutely essential to keep propellant 12:41 · from boiling off very similar to what 12:43 · ULA had in mind for a Centaurbased fuel 12:47 · depot so they're definitely putting 12:49 · thought into this working with NASA Blue 12:52 · Origin has integrated its first 12:54 · prototype and put it in a thermal vacuum 12:56 · chamber quote "By June we will be 12:59 · showing that we are consistently holding 13:01 · hydrogen and oxygen as storeable 13:03 · propellants and by December we'll start 13:06 · our flight units." Once again very 13:08 · aggressive timing gloris argued that 13:11 · being able to store liquid hydrogen and 13:13 · liquid oxygen for extended periods would 13:16 · be a breakthrough that propellant 13:17 · combination has the highest performance 13:19 · of major chemical propulsion systems and 13:22 · can be obtained from water on the moon 13:24 · or other celestial bodies i completely 13:27 · agree with that hydrolocks is much 13:30 · easier to access through insitu 13:32 · processes especially on the moon than 13:35 · methylox is a fully fueled transporter 13:38 · can carry about a 100 metric tons as I 13:40 · said before from Earth orbit to lunar 13:43 · orbit with applications beyond the moon 13:45 · as well including that 30 metric tons to 13:48 · Mars that we talked about it can open up 13:50 · the asteroid belt he said it can open up 13:53 · the solar system he didn't offer 13:55 · schedules for testing the transporter or 13:58 · the blue moon lander during a separate 14:00 · panel at the conference on May 20th 14:03 · Jackie Cortez senior director of civil 14:06 · space said that the company expects to 14:08 · conduct both an uncrrewed test landing 14:11 · of the Blue Moon Mark II as well as a 14:13 · crude landing before the end of the 14:16 · decade now is that fast enough for Blue 14:20 · Origin to put humans on the moon before 14:22 · China does assuming that SpaceX can't 14:25 · come through with lunar starship kind of 14:28 · hard to tell but it looks like that's 14:30 · what they're trying to accomplish blue 14:32 · Origin is also building a second Blue 14:35 · Moon Mark1 lander about 6 to 8 months 14:38 · behind the first quote "We're building 14:40 · intentionally now to get hardware rich." 14:43 · According to Kuris if the first mission 14:46 · is not successful we'll learn from it 14:48 · and learn from the objective we 14:50 · succeeded in and the ones where we 14:52 · didn't succeed in and we'll incorporate 14:54 · those into the next vehicle corteiz said 14:57 · that the work on the blue moon is in a 14:59 · dedicated facility we intend for it to 15:02 · be a production line capability she said 15:05 · but she did not discuss the projected 15:07 · production rate for the lander quote it 15:10 · was really important for us to procure 15:12 · all hardware for the two Mark1 missions 15:15 · years ago citing supply chain challenges 15:18 · ideally we'll have a successful first 15:21 · mission of Mark 1 incorporate any 15:23 · findings and be able to fly again she 15:26 · said and if it's not successful we have 15:28 · another lander ready to go that was 15:30 · something that was really important to 15:32 · us but here's the big question is Blue 15:35 · Origin going to be able to put an HLS on 15:40 · the lunar surface before a SpaceX can 15:43 · and if so is that something that NASA 15:46 · would actually entertain especially if 15:48 · it looks like lunar starship is starting 15:51 · to lag 15:56 · behind so of course an obvious question 15:59 · remains if Blue Origin does manage to 16:02 · pull this off and if they can get their 16:04 · humanrated version of Blue Moon ready 16:07 · before Lunar Starship is ready are they 16:10 · going to be the ones carrying out 16:12 · Artemis 3 i mean there's a lot of 16:14 · contractual obligations a lot of 16:16 · commitments that NASA has made that's 16:19 · going to give SpaceX a pretty strong 16:22 · position both legally and otherwise to 16:25 · set down on the moon first but if Lunar 16:29 · Starship starts running into issues it's 16:31 · very possible that Artemis 3 isn't going 16:34 · to happen before the end of Trump's 16:37 · final years in office and if that 16:40 · happens the only chance that Trump may 16:43 · have to make that historic phone call to 16:46 · astronauts setting down on the moon 16:49 · something that was a huge distinction 16:52 · for Nixon's administration something I'm 16:55 · sure Trump would like to have well Blue 16:58 · Origin may turn out to be his only 17:01 · alternative and let me tell you 17:03 · something regardless of what Elon Musk 17:05 · might have done for Trump in the past if 17:08 · it's a choice between making that phone 17:11 · call and not making that phone call I 17:14 · assure you Trump is going to go for the 17:18 · first option regardless of whose toes he 17:21 · has to step on and from my perspective 17:24 · if it comes to beating the Chinese to 17:27 · the surface of the moon and establishing 17:29 · a permanent presence on the moon before 17:33 · China can manage to do it I think that 17:35 · stepping on toes may be what's necessary 17:38 · and is entirely justified thank you very 17:42 · much for watching please don't forget to 17:44 · like and subscribe once again looking 17:46 · forward to seeing my British viewers 17:49 · again i'll be there in less than 24 17:52 · hours very excited indeed in the 17:55 · meantime please consider supporting this 17:58 · channel all the details are 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Gonna watch! Thanks for the reminder.
My pleasure. Of course, that's the optimist in both of us, they may have a scrub, or it may have a RUD -- they've had some problems to work out. For a while I thought Musk had a bad apple or two working at SpaceX who didn't like Trump and DOGE etc. But I think it's just because it's a monumentally difficult thing they're doing.
Ping.
Thanks.
Thanks!
Unbelievable! After decades of glacial progress
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Unbelievable because Blue Origin has yet to have a successful launch. The glacial progress will continue ...
Well it is rocket science. We all appreciate Musk's Buck Rogers approach to reaching outer space. Yet the KISS principle comes to mind. Overly complex systems have myriad ways to fail.
But I think it’s just because it’s a monumentally difficult thing they’re doing.
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Its a totally redesigned ship and booster (Starship v2). Everything is new or upgraded internally and on the skin, including the fins. Only the general appearance remains the same. Success or RUD, the next flights will be sooner since SpaceX is pre-cleared by the FAA for 25 flights per year now. We may see a Starship launch from the Cape, as well this year.
Overly complex systems have myriad ways to fail.
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Does not apply to StarShip as it is as simple as it gets to do the jobs its is designed to eventually do.
Bfl
Elon employs KISS all the time. You’ve probably heard him say “the worst thing an engineer can do is perfect a part that shouldn’t exist” and “the best part is no part”. Comparing raptor 1 to raptor 3 shows KISS is integral to their engineering philosophy.
Lots of speculation and rumors about this flight. Possibility tossed in a couple of Raptor 3 engines in the first stage for testing.
No catch of 1st stage. Possibly simulate a engine failed in landing to demonstrate the ability to land minus 1 engine. Rumor they may simulate the los of 2 (of 3) landing center engines - relight an outer ring engine to land. That would be epic!
God speed SpaceX, God speed Elon Musk.
SpaceX has little need for a moon stepping-stone to Mars if they are successful in an orbital refueler.
Yup, sending the Starship to the Moon first is really just part of system development and testing, practice for the envisioned routine working system. It'll still be an awesome system for lunar missions.
The simplification from Raptor 1 to Raptor 2 was remarkable, and Raptor 3 is so simplified by contrast that it doesn't look like it's finished. :^)
The first settlement on Mars will likely be built by a version Optimus before many humans arrive. The moon can be a place to hash all that out prior.
Agreed! I am an optimist in these things, and doubt if anyone there is being nasty...though one can never tell!
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