Posted on 04/20/2025 7:27:31 AM PDT by Libloather
Hold the tofu.
New research suggests that vegans may be more likely to suffer from nutritional deficiencies than their meat-eating
Worse still, scientists found that even vegans who hit their daily protein goals with plant-based sources often fall short on two essential amino acids, putting their health at risk.
In the US, an estimated 1% to 5% of the population follows a vegan diet, which eliminates all animal products, including meat, dairy and eggs.
Over the years, researchers have found that following a plant-based diet can reduce the risk of heart disease, type 2 diabetes and some cancers, as well as help with weight management.
In fact, one study found that eating a vegan diet can improve your health in just four weeks.
But meat-eaters have long argued that animal products provide essential nutrients — particularly proteins, vitamins and minerals — that are tough to get in sufficient quantities from a plant-based diet.
A new six-month study out of Australia might just support that claim.
Researchers tracked the diets of 240 adults, aged 30 to 75, ranging from strict vegans and dairy-eating vegetarians to good old-fashioned meat lovers.
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
I did veganism for a while but realized it was more effort than I was willing to do i.e. vegan cheese (made from cashews and it was very good) or buy expensive vegan products. Throwing a burger on the grill became making bean patties with the right proportions and spices and that don't fall apart. Maybe if I had the time to perfect vegan cooking I would have stuck with it.
I'll tell you one thing. When I was involved in it all cravings went away.
“Prolonged deficiencies in lysine and leucine can disrupt protein balance, hinder muscle maintenance and affect other vital functions, the researchers warned. These risks could be even greater for vulnerable groups, like elderly vegans.”
mrs. catnipman pointed out that she’s actually never met an “elderly” vegan, and she’s worked professionally with the elderly for decades ...
“Any diet that requires supplementation is NOT healthy or adequate.”
absolutely correct ... and a plant-based diet contains zero B12 ...
Veganism is many things. Dislike of farm factory procedures and cruelty to animals. Dislike of hormones and substances put into animals raised for food. A belief that animal fat is detrimental to health. Whatever.
My ex is a vegan and it's purely for health reasons, in his mind. He would never inflict it on others or lecture others ... unless they asked.
Sometimes when people tell you they're vegan it's another way of saying will there be anything at the party/mixer/event that I can eat within my dietary choices.
Vegan is an excellent way of eating and very healthy ... but ONLY if you do the research on what you must be getting in your diet from plants once you cut out all animal products. For example, you MUST supplement with B-12. Veganism takes more work and food prep ... you can't just replace meat with salads and vegetables. It's not easy at first but like anything else if you're dedicated you can make it work for you.
Veganism isn't natural. If God wanted us to only eat plants, he wouldn't have made animals out of meat.
Know this for years. Watched friends slowly wither away on Vegan diats while they were preaching to me about how healthy is is and that everyone should be vegan.
There is only one positive I have noticed about Vegans though, they do not smell as bad when they sweat. They smell like a salad instead of a human being...
Diet is how these people feel virtuous, consequently they’re not going to listen to talk of amino acids and such.
Natural? Arsenic, absinthe, ricin, and amotoxin are natural. Do you consider hormones in your meat and dairy products natural?
You can either take a B-12 supplement or sprinkle nutritional yeast (not brewers, that stuff reeks) on your food.
It's funny to me how people decry the unhealthiness of veganism, to which I say I dare you to walk into any stroke, cancer, heart disease, diabetes, etc. unit in a hospital and find me a single vegan.
If you insist on eating meat, best to eat unprocessed meat. And white meat (poultry) is healthier than red.
My mother is a vegetarian and she’s 90 years old with no known health issues and had a check-up last week. I doubt if I live to her age (and not sure I want to).
The concept of avoiding animal products which is the religious basis for vegetarianism predates the term and practice of veganism but prohibitions against meat eating and animal sacrifice can be traced back to ancient times in various cultures. Vegetarianism has roots in ancient religions and philosophical traditions like Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism, as well as the ancient Greek philosopher Pythagoras. So are you talking about veganism or vegetarianism ?
I think that we are on the same page. We are omnivores to the point that it is unhealthy to exclude most food groups. I am old enough to have known many vegetarians for many decades and for most it appears to be unhealthy in the long term. Most young people can get away with it for a few years then bad things start happening.
The negative results for people who eat nothing but meat are also quite obvious after a few years or sometimes a much shorter period of time. And let's not forget people who exclude fruits and vegetables from their diets or whole grains. Most of the unhealthiest people I know claim that they are gluten intolerant...
I don't know why any of this is the case. But I suspect it is because maintaining a healthy gut biome is very important to our well-being and variety is one of the best things we can do to enhance this. The mechanisms are still not well understood but good health typically results from good digestion along with vigorous physical activity. The best diet in the world is not going to do much for your health if all you do is sit around all day.
If God didn’t want us to eat animals,
Why did he make them out of meat?
Veganism is a cult of morons. They are the adult children who refuse to eat what is good for them.
“Plant based protein”
If it’s not peanut butter, it’s garbage.
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-49579820
You’re saying things that are often repeated, but are not factual.
The human body needs amino acids that are hard to attain on a vegan diet, pure and simple fact. Many vegans (that truly follow through with it) end up anemic (not genetic, environmental, but dietary caused) and with other issues because of this diet.
Your argument does not even make sense. Even the vegan eats a diet that has industrial food, i.e. herbicides, pesticides, fungicides, irradiation, homogenization, pasteurization, additives for color, stabilizers, preservatives, use of fertilizers... Even so called “organic” foods are fake. Unless you buy from a farmer direct, you’re getting industrial food.
God gave us canine teethe is all I need to know.
You are exactly on point, kind of like my grandmother always said, eat a variety of food. Modernization was one of her favorite words. Thanks for the informative reply. Happy Easter.
Meat isn’t going to directly contribute to a healthy gut biome because it doesn’t have fiber for bacteria to ferment to produce short-chain fatty acids. Generally following a Mediterranean diet, for instance, has numerous benefits for the gut microbiome but that is due to the high level of plant protein and legumes in particular, not animal protein.
.......In the study, legumes and their seeds were found to be the top contributors to overall protein and lysine intake.....
Legumes—especially beans—are at the heart of the traditional Orthodox Christian lenten diet.
However, since today is Pascha, meat is on the menu once again!
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