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1st evidence of nuclear fission in stars hints at elements 'never produced on Earth'
Sharmila Kuthunur ^ | December 14, 2023 | Live Science

Posted on 03/06/2025 10:16:35 PM PST by SunkenCiv

Elements heavier than iron are thought to be born in some of the most violent explosions in the cosmos, like the cataclysmic mergers of neutron stars. The coalescence of these ultradense remnants -- which are forged when once-massive stars collapse -- creates superheavy atomic nuclei packed with neutrons in less than a second. In a flash, the jam-packed nucleus seems to go through internal changes and forms elements such as silver and gold.

Now, an analysis of the chemical makeup of 42 very old stars scattered in the halo of the Milky Way reveals for the first time that nuclear fission -- a process through which an atom splits apart, releasing massive amounts of energy -- plays a role in creating these heavy elements. A team of researchers discovered a consistent pattern among elements in these stars and found them to be the likely products of fission.

"This process is creating everything on the periodic table in one second," study co-author Matthew Mumpower, a theoretical physicist at the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico, told Live Science. "That's pretty incredible."

The finding suggests that nature may forge elements with atomic masses greater than 260 -- heavier than even those at the edge of the periodic table -- before breaking them down again. While simulations of stellar evolution have suggested that this heavy-duty fission is likely to happen, the new research marks the first "direct evidence" of the process, lead study author Ian Roederer, a physicist and astronomer at North Carolina State University told Live Science.

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TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: astronomy; neutronstars; periodictable; physics; science; stringtheory
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The rapid neutron capture process (r-process) occurs in neutron-rich environments such as neutron star mergers or certain types of supernovae. This process is thought to produce many of the chemical elements heavier than iron, but the details are poorly understood and cannot be studied in the laboratory. Roederer et al. analyzed r-process element abundances previously observed in stars. They identified correlated excess abundances of certain elements in some stars, which is consistent with these elements being fission products of even heavier elements. These results indicate that some r-process events make elements heavier than uranium, which then decay into the elements observed in stars.
Element abundance patterns in stars indicate fission of nuclei heavier than uranium | Keith T. Smith | Science | 7 Dec 2023 [Editor's summary]

1 posted on 03/06/2025 10:16:35 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 03/06/2025 10:17:24 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: SunkenCiv

ultradense remnants - hah! For a second there I thought the discussion had swerved into Biden...


3 posted on 03/06/2025 10:22:37 PM PST by Paul R. (Old Viking saying: "Never be more than 3 steps away from your weapon ... or a Uriah Heep song!" ;-))
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To: Paul R.
"C'mon man! If this is about me, I gots to be paid."

Brainless Joe Biden

4 posted on 03/06/2025 10:28:38 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I wonder if,zelenski will let us mine them lol


5 posted on 03/06/2025 10:30:09 PM PST by Bob434 (...Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana)
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To: SunkenCiv
Elements heavier than iron are thought to be born in some of the most violent explosions in the cosmos, like the cataclysmic mergers of neutron stars.

I get that this could happen in principle, but are these people saying that this is the ONLY way these elements are made? They're floating around in cosmic dust later to coalesce into planets?

It's hard to think of the crowns on my teeth coming from a supernova, then billions of years floating around in interstellar space, then billions more until some clown finds a nugget or dust in a creek. Besides, what makes any element lighter than iron any different?

Something doesn't pass the smell test here.

6 posted on 03/06/2025 10:40:58 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: SunkenCiv
In a flash, the jam-packed nucleus seems to go through internal changes and forms elements such as silver and gold.

Jam-packed? Is this the atomic pączki theory?

7 posted on 03/06/2025 11:09:04 PM PST by KarlInOhio (“Forget it, Jake. It's California.”)
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To: SunkenCiv

And yet LORD Jesus converted water into wine using only His voice. Converting Hydrogen and oxygen into complex carbon molecules is fascinating. And the temperature didn’t change. Freakish power. Apparently there are ways other than slamming neutron stars together to manipulate matter. His technology/science is off the charts.


8 posted on 03/06/2025 11:20:13 PM PST by Strict9
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To: Carry_Okie
All the gold on earth has been floating around in the universe for billions of years prior to coalescing into the Earth. But so have all the other elements. That's the standard model.

All elements heavier than hydrogen were created by nuclear processes, such as fusion in stars. All elements heavier than iron were created by processes other than nuclear fusion. That includes fast neutron absorption which occurs in cataclysmic events such as supernovae, neutron star collisions, quasars, and maybe one or two other rare events. Those elements make up less than 1% of the matter in the universe.
9 posted on 03/07/2025 12:11:55 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Carry_Okie

Iron it the tipping point for energy. For every element below iron, you gain energy by fission. When you start creating iron, you lose energy. It cost more to fuse iron then you get out it.


10 posted on 03/07/2025 12:28:23 AM PST by NurdlyPeon (It is the nature of liberals to pervert whatever they touch.)
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To: SunkenCiv
No doubt the extreme conditions inside of stars creates some amazing heavy elements

In fact, many of these super heavy elements may be critical for keeping these stars stable and intact.

Many are also probably very unstable unless they exist within a stable island and cannot exist for long outside of the extreme conditions inside the stars that create them.

11 posted on 03/07/2025 1:53:29 AM PST by rdcbn1 (TV )
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To: SunkenCiv
They write “Our results indicate that neutron-rich nuclei with mass numbers >260 are produced in r-process events. In our sample, then nuclei with A > 260 (110 + 150) were produced in the r-process.”
The mass number (A) = number of protons (Z) + number of neutrons (N). The heaviest stable isotope is lead Pb-208 and the assumed element referred to in the article with A = 260 is Darmstadtium https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darmstadtium

That is interesting, and if it is possible to get heavier elements then we will see “The End of Chemistry”
• Does the Periodic Table have limits? YES!!
• At some point (Z~122) all the electron energy levels of adjacent elements are similar so that there are no differences in their chemical behavior. p 21

https://pls.llnl.gov/sites/pls/files/2023-12/nnpss2015_SHE_Loveland.pdf

12 posted on 03/07/2025 3:07:17 AM PST by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Excellent synopsis.


13 posted on 03/07/2025 3:36:05 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Perfection is impossible. But if you pursue perfection...you may achieve excellence.)
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To: Carry_Okie

“What makes any element lighter than iron different?”

That is a good question. The answer is binding energy of the nucleus. The key quantity is binding energy per nucleon (a nucleon is a general term encompassing both protons and neutrons). Hydrogen is a single proton. It can undergo fusion into helium because doing so increases the binding force per nucleon. Helium in turn can fuse to form heavier elements like beryllium, and the process continues - up until iron.

The nucleus is composed of positively charged protons and uncharged neutrons. Since the protons are positively charged they repel each other. Hence for the nucleus to remain together, there must be another force besides the electrical force that attracts the nucleons. This is called the strong force. This is overly simplified, but the strong force increases with the number of nucleons. So as heavier elements are formed by fusion you get more tightly bound nuclei.. at the same time though, the repulsion due to the charge of the protons increases as well. For elements lighter than iron, making the nucleus heavier makes it more tightly bound. At iron, the charge takes over and heavier nuclei than iron are less tightly bound. Hence fusion cannot form elements heavier than iron.


14 posted on 03/07/2025 3:46:34 AM PST by stremba
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To: SunkenCiv

The scientists are fission for research grants!


15 posted on 03/07/2025 3:52:33 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Kamala defines herself in just 4 words..."Nothing comes to mind.")
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To: SunkenCiv

Get every god damned Chinese m-f’er OUT OF THAT LAB if you made a discovery like this. That is, if there are any non-Chinese left in amerifat science anymore


16 posted on 03/07/2025 4:08:14 AM PST by Captainpaintball (America needs a Conservative DICTATOR if it hopes to survive. )
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To: stremba
Will it ever be practical or affordable to create commercial quantities of elements in a factory scale setting?

Or, are the energy requirements just too huge?

17 posted on 03/07/2025 4:59:59 AM PST by zeestephen (Trump Landslide? Kamala lost the election by 230,000 votes, in WI, MI, and PA.)
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To: Carry_Okie

You, like your teeth, are star dust - as is everything.


18 posted on 03/07/2025 5:20:23 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and miProbably worth noting that a Russia friendly governmene ... now its your turn)
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To: SunkenCiv

19 posted on 03/07/2025 5:47:11 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: PIF
You, like your teeth, are star dust - as is everything.

It lends one to wonder how those elements coalesced into useful minerals, gold in particular, as it is found as a useful metal in its elemental state.

That would be one hell of a phase diagram!

20 posted on 03/07/2025 5:48:15 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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