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L.A. Fires Show Limits of America’s Efforts to Cope With Climate Change
The New York Times ^
| Jan. 10, 2025Updated 3:44 p.m. ET
| Christopher Flavelle
Posted on 01/11/2025 10:12:15 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
California has focused on fortifying communities against wildfires. But with growing threats, that may not be enough.
This week’s fires around Los Angeles present a puzzle: Why is California, the state best equipped to deal with wildfires, seemingly unable to prevent blazes from consuming entire chunks of the country’s second-largest city?
California’s building code for wildfires is among the most protective in the nation. Its local fire departments are backed up by CalFire, the state fire agency, which has a
$4 billion budget and some of the best trained firefighters in the world. The state’s huge tax base generates effectively unlimited resources for wildfire protection. And California has mandatory statewide requirements that homeowners in risky areas create “defensible space” around their property — rules that other Western states would like to apply but can’t because it would anger conservative voters.
Yet the events of this week demonstrate the limits of those efforts, raising uncomfortable questions about whether any part of the United States — even the wealthiest, best prepared and most experienced — can truly adapt to wildfires made worse by a hotter climate.
“Climate change, and climate events, are causing us to butt up against that limit,” said Joshua Saks, the adaptation program director for Georgetown Climate Center at Georgetown University Law Center in Washington. “The risk will always grow, and at some point outpace what you’ve done.”
Part of the extensive damage from the fires in Los Angeles may reflect errors in planning or execution. Fire hydrants designed to fight house fires
ran dry, as water reserves faced greater demand than officials anticipated. It’s not clear that residents had sufficient warning or that evacuation routes were well planned. The second-guessing and questions about accountability
have already begun even as the fires...
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TOPICS: Humor
KEYWORDS: algore; biden; bs; california; christopherflavelle; climatechangehoax; dodgingliability; enemieslist; enemyjournalists; fire; gaslighting; gorebullwarming; kamalaharris; manbearpig; nevergiveupthecon; newsom; newyorkslimes; nyslimes
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Santa Anna Winds, over-development, Thirsty Smelt, Empty Reservoirs, and Venezuelan thugs with gas cans, is not climate change.
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posted on
01/11/2025 10:27:46 AM PST
by
blackdog
((Z28.310) Be careful what you say. Your refrigerator may be listening & reporting you.)
To: E. Pluribus Unum
Correct title: “L.A. Fires Show Limits of America’s Efforts to Cope With Leftist Woke Governments”.
The winds - the Santa Annas - occur every year. The land conditions - wet winter, enabling growth of vegetation, followed by very dry spring and summer was known. The missing elements were under the control of governments, which failed by squandering resources - for water and public safety were undervalued in deferencer to woke policies given greater priority. Climate change caused none of the known failures of California’s governments. Their Leftist woke policies did.
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posted on
01/11/2025 10:30:17 AM PST
by
Wuli
To: E. Pluribus Unum; All
Great, truthful comments in response to Christopher Flavelle (idiot and/or propagandist).
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posted on
01/11/2025 10:30:51 AM PST
by
PGalt
(Past Peak Civilization?)
To: E. Pluribus Unum
God I hate the New York Times.
To: E. Pluribus Unum
NYT, Just STFU already! WE DON’T BELIEVE YOU! (about ANYTHING)
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posted on
01/11/2025 10:35:22 AM PST
by
faucetman
(Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
To: E. Pluribus Unum
NEVER, EVER give up the con these winds are a very regular occurrence in southern CA. for DECADES I have had days here that the winds were so bad it was hard to open my car door to get out of the car!! Climate change BS!!!
To: E. Pluribus Unum
More like America reliance on stupid.
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posted on
01/11/2025 10:36:16 AM PST
by
aquila48
(Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they. control you. )
To: E. Pluribus Unum; All
This is why when people say, “Leftists will learn from this and wake up...”
NO.
They’re stuck on stupid. It’s a religion for them. They won’t walk away and the NPC followers will still vote Democrat regardless of what hell they live in. Look at Detroit, Chicago, etc. etc.
To: E. Pluribus Unum
😂😂😂😂😂. Oh, okay nyt. Fookin’ idjits.
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posted on
01/11/2025 10:43:03 AM PST
by
rktman
(Destroy America from within ? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
To: Trump Girl Kit Cat
I see your hair is burning
Hills are filled with fire
If they say I never loved you
You know they are a liar
The Doors, LA Woman, 1971
Now they want us to believe that they couldn’t possibly have known this could happen.
To: E. Pluribus Unum
Oh! The ONLY way to stop ‘climate change’ is by (first) giving us ALL your money, then (second), if you’re a white American male, kill yourself. ‘Climate change’ will automatically be solved!
/ward
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posted on
01/11/2025 10:51:41 AM PST
by
hoagy62
(Don't let evil win again!)
To: E. Pluribus Unum
All this nonsense about fortifying communities and fireproofing homes. Look at the results.
The most basic prevention - firelanes and clearing out combustible brush (planned burns, clearing) have been off limits for generations. End of the day, they really weren’t serious about prevention. Graft, payola, now that is another story.
To: RedElement
End of the day, they really weren’t serious about prevention were serious about burning the city to the ground.
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posted on
01/11/2025 10:57:41 AM PST
by
E. Pluribus Unum
(The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
To: quantim
I’m freaking FREEZING in NYC...where algore said we would never see snow again...I think he said that like 20 years ago now..or more.
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posted on
01/11/2025 10:58:53 AM PST
by
dp0622
(Tried a coup, a fake tax story, tramp slander, Russia nonsense, impeachment and a virus. They lost.)
To: E. Pluribus Unum
And just like that all democrats and bureaucrats are absolved of any responsibility. It is all the evil orangeman and oil companies. Prepare for massive lawsuits against oil companies.
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posted on
01/11/2025 11:00:20 AM PST
by
Organic Panic
(Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
To: E. Pluribus Unum
This is the reason North American continent was occupied last by civilizations. Too many natural calamities. Hurricanes, earth quakes, sudden appearance of funnel twisters, forest fires, we have it all.
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posted on
01/11/2025 11:02:46 AM PST
by
Bobbyvotes
(Congrats to Trump/Vance tea.m. America has been saved. For a while at least. )
Because in LA, it’s hotter in the dead of winter than it is during the peak of summer.
To: E. Pluribus Unum
Shows what happens when you waste your resources fighting delusions instead of dealing with reality.
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posted on
01/11/2025 11:11:01 AM PST
by
Savage Beast
(There's a Light over the Whole World. Fight! Fight! Fight! --President Donald Trump)
"And California has mandatory statewide requirements that homeowners in risky areas create “defensible space” around their property — rules that other Western states would like to apply >b>but can’t because it would anger conservative voters." Chris, you ignorant slut. It is the LGBTQWERTY LIBERALS that stopped the brush clearing that made this fire so bad. President Trump warned Newscum about it - FOUR YEARS AGO!
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posted on
01/11/2025 11:11:10 AM PST
by
Henchster
(Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
To: E. Pluribus Unum
“L.A. Fires Show Limits of America’s Efforts to Cope With DEI and incompetent Democrats”
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posted on
01/11/2025 11:12:06 AM PST
by
LizzieD
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