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Many Catholics in the U.S. and Latin America Want the Church to Allow Birth Control and to Let Women Become Priests
pew research ^ | September 26, 2024 | Jonathan Evans and Kelsey Jo Starr

Posted on 12/02/2024 2:21:56 PM PST by daniel1212

Most Catholics in all seven countries want the church to allow Catholics to use birth control.

In most of the countries surveyed, majorities of Catholics also say the church should allow women to become priests.

Opinion is more divided on whether the church should allow priests to get married.

Views on whether the church should recognize the marriages of gay and lesbian couples vary among Catholics in the countries surveyed.

Ten years ago, nearly all Catholics surveyed there (98%) expressed a favorable opinion of Francis, compared with 74% today.



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To: daniel1212

They can “want” all day long.

They don’t make the rules in that club.


81 posted on 12/02/2024 8:30:25 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: daniel1212

NO! AND NO!


82 posted on 12/02/2024 8:34:11 PM PST by Maris Crane
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To: af_vet_1981
It is deception intended to destroy churches in these times of the Gentiles.

Rome has managed to shrug off Prots and Iron Maidens, so I doubt that 'many' Catholics' wishes will have much effect either.

83 posted on 12/02/2024 8:35:59 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Petrosius
... the Catholic Church started with Jesus Christ.

And before the end of John, an ANGEL had to tell John to write to seven ERROR FILLED 'Catholic' churches!

Great teaching retention so soon after Christ's resurrection!

84 posted on 12/02/2024 8:45:36 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Petrosius
There is only one time in the New Testament where it was recorded that the people were gathered to decide an issue.

HMMMmmm..

More evidence of someone poorly catechized...


Acts 15

The Council at Jerusalem
 1 Certain people came down from Judea to Antioch and were teaching the believers: "Unless you are circumcised, according to the custom taught by Moses, you cannot be saved." 2 This brought Paul and Barnabas into sharp dispute and debate with them. So Paul and Barnabas were appointed, along with some other believers, to go up to Jerusalem to see the apostles and elders about this question. 3 The church sent them on their way, and as they traveled through Phoenicia and Samaria, they told how the Gentiles had been converted. This news made all the believers very glad. 4 When they came to Jerusalem, they were welcomed by the church and the apostles and elders, to whom they reported everything God had done through them.

 5 Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, "The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to keep the law of Moses."

 6 The apostles and elders met to consider this question. 7 After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: "Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. 8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. 9 He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. 10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? 11 No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are."

 12 The whole assembly became silent as they listened to Barnabas and Paul telling about the signs and wonders God had done among the Gentiles through them. 13 When they finished, James spoke up. "Brothers," he said, "listen to me. 14 Simon has described to us how God first intervened to choose a people for his name from the Gentiles. 15 The words of the prophets are in agreement with this, as it is written:

 16 "'After this I will return
   and rebuild David's fallen tent.
Its ruins I will rebuild,
   and I will restore it,
17 that the rest of mankind may seek the Lord,
   even all the Gentiles who bear my name,
says the Lord, who does these things'
 18 things known from long ago.

 19 "It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. 20 Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. 21 For the law of Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath."

The Council's Letter to Gentile Believers
 22 Then the apostles and elders, with the whole church, decided to choose some of their own men and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They chose Judas (called Barsabbas) and Silas, men who were leaders among the believers. 23 With them they sent the following letter:

   The apostles and elders, your brothers,

   To the Gentile believers in Antioch, Syria and Cilicia:

   Greetings.

 24 We have heard that some went out from us without our authorization and disturbed you, troubling your minds by what they said. 25 So we all agreed to choose some men and send them to you with our dear friends Barnabas and Paul— 26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas to confirm by word of mouth what we are writing. 28 It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: 29 You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things.

   Farewell.

 30 So the men were sent off and went down to Antioch, where they gathered the church together and delivered the letter. 31 The people read it and were glad for its encouraging message. 32 Judas and Silas, who themselves were prophets, said much to encourage and strengthen the believers. 33 After spending some time there, they were sent off by the believers with the blessing of peace to return to those who had sent them. [34] 35 But Paul and Barnabas remained in Antioch, where they and many others taught and preached the word of the Lord.

Disagreement Between Paul and Barnabas
 36 Some time later Paul said to Barnabas, "Let us go back and visit the believers in all the towns where we preached the word of the Lord and see how they are doing." 37 Barnabas wanted to take John, also called Mark, with them, 38 but Paul did not think it wise to take him, because he had deserted them in Pamphylia and had not continued with them in the work. 39 They had such a sharp disagreement that they parted company. Barnabas took Mark and sailed for Cyprus, 40 but Paul chose Silas and left, commended by the believers to the grace of the Lord. 41 He went through Syria and Cilicia, strengthening the churches.
85 posted on 12/02/2024 8:50:07 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MNDude

When did ‘praying the rosary’ become a thing?


86 posted on 12/02/2024 8:51:34 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: cgbg
They took the stuff they liked and ignored the rest. ...and added more!
87 posted on 12/02/2024 8:52:54 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: kinsman redeemer

We’re up to three...


88 posted on 12/02/2024 8:56:47 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: daniel1212
The Church has an approved form of birth control. It’s called Natural Family Planning and it works. I was able to space out my pregnancies using that method along with breastfeeding for the first year. It also gets you in tune with your body so you can recognize the signs that you’re fertile, which is only 3-5 days out of the month.

As far as women priests, it’s not gonna happen. What the ppl want has never mattered much to the hierarchy because Catholicism isn’t a populist religion. If Catholics don’t like the rules, they’re free to leave.

89 posted on 12/02/2024 10:51:53 PM PST by Prince of Space (Trump 2024!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Means nothing. My liberal daughter was baptized Catholic, made her First Communion and attended Mass regularly growing up. Now she claims she’s Wiccan. 🤣


90 posted on 12/02/2024 10:55:55 PM PST by Prince of Space (Trump 2024!)
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To: NorthMountain

I know, right? It’s also annoying.


91 posted on 12/02/2024 10:57:38 PM PST by Prince of Space (Trump 2024!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

MYOB. Worry about your fellow…whatever you are.


92 posted on 12/02/2024 11:02:05 PM PST by Prince of Space (Trump 2024!)
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To: metmom

Sure, Jan.


93 posted on 12/02/2024 11:03:14 PM PST by Prince of Space (Trump 2024!)
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To: daniel1212

Freepers are blessed to have you as such an esteemed spiritual being who can enlighten us Catholics about “The Truth,” otherwise known as Daniel’s version of it. 🤣


94 posted on 12/02/2024 11:10:24 PM PST by Prince of Space (Trump 2024!)
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To: Responsibility2nd; Bishop_Malachi
The difference is that evangelical churches do not accept or tolerate Christians who live opposite to their faith the way that the Catholic Church accepts people like Biden, Pelosi and others.

While i wish they would be openly excommunicated (they are considered to have excommunicated themselves), one must remember that Jesus came for all - sinners and saints and that this would be in the community HE founded.

Shunning out the sinners, even the egregious ones, leaves no room for them to repent - and as long as there is life, there is a chance they might repent.

95 posted on 12/03/2024 3:44:50 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Cronos
...leaves no room for them to repent...

oh?


1 Corinthians 5:4-5 niv

4 When you are assembled in the name of our Lord Jesus and I am with you in spirit, along with the power of the Lord Jesus, 5 hand this man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved on the Day of the Lord.

96 posted on 12/03/2024 3:49:58 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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Do Catholics ever do any more bible study after they’ve been initially catechized?

It seems that POORLY and/or IMPROPER catechism gets the blame for those members who do not publicly toe the line taught by Rome.


97 posted on 12/03/2024 3:53:03 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: daniel1212

ALL of the friends I’ve had who are Catholic practiced birth control. The husband of one couple was literally within days of being a full-fledged priest when he met “the one”.


98 posted on 12/03/2024 4:23:54 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (It's hard not to celebrate the fall of bad people. - Bongino)
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To: Elsie

The errors of the churches in Revelations is that of individual churches, not of the Church as a whole. If the Church as a whole is not infallible then how do we even know what is Scripture and what is not? This is the dilemma of the canon of the Bible that Protestants cannot answer.


99 posted on 12/03/2024 4:26:17 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: Elsie
You need to reread that passage. It was not the "people" who decided the issue but the gathered apostles and presbyters under the leadership of Peter. These were πρεσβύτεροι, i.e., priests, not simply "elders." πρεσβύτεροι (presbyters) is one of the three grades of Holy Orders, along with ἐπίσκοποι and διᾱ́κονοι mentioned by Paul in his letters to Timothy and Titus. Your translation tries to hide this by translating it as simply "elders."

Thus we see that the New Testament church was hierarchical, not democratic or synodal. The gathered ministers united with Peter spoke with the authority of the Holy Spirit. It was to this instruction that "The people read it and were glad for its encouraging message." Let me ask you a question, did this instruction from the apostles and presbyters carry the authority of the Holy Spirit before or after it was recorded in Acts? Clearly before. The Protestant reformers and their followers are much like those described in Acts: "We have heard that some went out from us without our authorization and disturbed you, troubling your minds by what they said."

100 posted on 12/03/2024 4:40:19 AM PST by Petrosius
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