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Many Catholics in the U.S. and Latin America Want the Church to Allow Birth Control and to Let Women Become Priests
pew research ^ | September 26, 2024 | Jonathan Evans and Kelsey Jo Starr

Posted on 12/02/2024 2:21:56 PM PST by daniel1212

Most Catholics in all seven countries want the church to allow Catholics to use birth control.

In most of the countries surveyed, majorities of Catholics also say the church should allow women to become priests.

Opinion is more divided on whether the church should allow priests to get married.

Views on whether the church should recognize the marriages of gay and lesbian couples vary among Catholics in the countries surveyed.

Ten years ago, nearly all Catholics surveyed there (98%) expressed a favorable opinion of Francis, compared with 74% today.



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To: daniel1212

Sadly says??

Evangelicals do not believe birth control is wrong. Evangelical churches do not preach that Catholic Doctrine.


41 posted on 12/02/2024 3:10:55 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Climate Change is Real. Winter, Spring, Summer and Fall.)
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To: daniel1212

Years ago we called them “cafeteria Catholics”.

They took the stuff they liked and ignored the rest.

What was most amusing was that different Catholics took different things from the cafeteria.

Lol.


42 posted on 12/02/2024 3:12:16 PM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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To: kenmcg

Exactly!


43 posted on 12/02/2024 3:12:17 PM PST by bantam
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To: daniel1212

Little flock. Have no fear.


44 posted on 12/02/2024 3:14:12 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (In a world of parrots and lemmings, be a watchdog.)
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To: MNDude
Which do you reject?

You provided the answer for me...

...the council’s significant outcomes.

 

In other words their Creed is insignificant as to what happened after that.

45 posted on 12/02/2024 3:14:21 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Climate Change is Real. Winter, Spring, Summer and Fall.)
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To: packagingguy

“churches/synagogues that allow women pastors are or quickly become leftist.”

They get into “feelings” and what “feels good”.

We all know where that leads.


46 posted on 12/02/2024 3:14:32 PM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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To: daniel1212

No doubt Francis is working hard to make that happen. Sadly, this is not sarcasm.


47 posted on 12/02/2024 3:14:44 PM PST by lastchance (Cognovit Dominus qui sunt eius.)
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To: escapefromboston

I went through this with ECUSA.

Get female priests, you will have to sit through a lot of homilies about their therapy.


48 posted on 12/02/2024 3:16:57 PM PST by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: Responsibility2nd

You don’t agree with the statements in the Apostles creed?

Or it was not 325 and that had heretical teachings but is now “after that?”


49 posted on 12/02/2024 3:18:46 PM PST by MNDude
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To: kenmcg
Majority doesn’t rule the Catholic Church.

The Church is not and never been a democracy nor should it be.

It would have never lasted this long if it were not for universal truth which is not open to a vote every 2 or 4 years.

50 posted on 12/02/2024 3:19:15 PM PST by usurper (AI was born with a birth defect.)
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To: daniel1212

How do they define Catholics? Some define themselves are Catholic based on how they are raised.


51 posted on 12/02/2024 3:20:04 PM PST by alternatives?
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To: MNDude

You don’t agree with the statements in the Apostles creed?

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The Apostles creed is not found in the Bible. The fact that this 4th century statement is the fundamental tenet of the Catholic church, not the Bible, and that all the teachings of Catholicism are based on this creed is what I disagree with.

It’s wrong.


52 posted on 12/02/2024 3:26:24 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Climate Change is Real. Winter, Spring, Summer and Fall.)
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To: usurper
It would have never lasted this long if it were not for universal truth which is not open to a vote every 2 or 4 years.

It may not be open to a vote but it certainly is open to the whims of whichever Pope is in charge. Is universal truth really that subjective?

53 posted on 12/02/2024 3:29:48 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Climate Change is Real. Winter, Spring, Summer and Fall.)
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To: fidelis
Who cares what “the majority” (i.e. poorly catechised) want? People in hell want ice water but they aren’t going to get it.

Rather than being " poorly catechised," I am sure most all RCs know the position of their church on this, but besides being able to ignore it, as even proabortion, prohomosexual Catholic public figures are manifestly considered to be members in life and in death by Rome, then a principle in Catholicism is that leadership defines what she means. Which, as V2 exampled, can mean something different than what was historically taught, as TradCaths here also assert.

Yet besides this, people tend to look for the interpretation of the preachers words but how they translate it in their own lives, as faith is indeed shown by actions. (Ja. 2:18) How much more when "the Church is essentially an unequal society, that is, a society comprising two categories of per sons, the Pastors and the flock...the one duty of the multitude is to allow themselves to be led, and, like a docile flock, to follow the Pastors." (Vehementer Nos, an Encyclical of Pope Pius X, 1906)

Thus, even granting Teddy K, an ecclesiastical funeral, in prima facie contradiction of Canon 915 - with a eulogy by no less than Obama - (besides Teddy receiving a gracious letter from Ratizinger, read at the funeral) in response to his own impenitent one) then the implicit front-page message to the laity is that such violations of RC doctrine are at least tacitly allowed.

Likewise, rather then RC use of contraceptives being due to deficient catechization, they seem to understand CCC 85 ("The task of giving an authentic interpretation of the Word of God, whether in its written form or in the form of Tradition, has been entrusted to the living teaching office of the Church alone") to mean according to how leadership widely applies it, ignoring the likes of Cardinal Burke.

54 posted on 12/02/2024 3:34:01 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: Skwor
Total failure of Church leadership to properly educate biblical principles within the body of Christ.

See post above.

55 posted on 12/02/2024 3:34:23 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: alternatives?
How do they define Catholics? Some define themselves are Catholic based on how they are raised.

See my post above.

56 posted on 12/02/2024 3:35:13 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: lastchance
No doubt Francis is working hard to make that happen. Sadly, this is not sarcasm.

Perhaps surprisingly, Francis firmly excluded women being allowed to be ordained as priests. - https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/252928/pope-francis-explains-to-america-magazine-why-women-cannot-be-ordained-priests

57 posted on 12/02/2024 3:42:02 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: nicollo
It’s funny how many respondents reply to pollsters that they are Catholic, but they never admit it on a Sunday, much less a holy day of obligation.

But a former speaker of the House was not ashamed to assert she was, without any censure from leadership.

58 posted on 12/02/2024 3:46:16 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: Responsibility2nd

In any event, the teachings of a faith that is soundly ignored by over 80% of “believers” leaves a lot to be desired.

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Unfortunately, they would involve the vast majority of all Christians period.


59 posted on 12/02/2024 3:50:08 PM PST by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: escapefromboston
Shows a lack of proper teaching from the Church.

Actually, it shows a lack of proper teaching from Scripture.

60 posted on 12/02/2024 3:58:30 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus)
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