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Is It Ever OK To End a Sentence With a Preposition?
Word Smarts ^ | 11/18/2024 | Rachel Gresh

Posted on 11/18/2024 8:47:25 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Star Wars fans might recall Obi-Wan’s Jedi mind trick in A New Hope when he tells stormtroopers, “These aren’t the droids you’re looking for.” Were Star Wars writers wrong about the placement of the preposition “for”? Should Obi-Wan instead have said, “These aren’t the droids for which you’re looking”? The latter sounds unnatural (and much more Yoda-esque, to be honest). Situations like these have caused grammar reformers to question or outright rebel against this “rule” about not ending sentences with prepositions.

Prepositions explain one noun’s relation to another, often indicating where or when. They can tell you if a cat is above, below, beside, or under the bed, and they also indicate if the cat hid there before, during, or after dinner. Some argue against ending a sentence with a preposition because it indicates a relationship between two words. They reason that a sentence might seem unfinished if a second noun isn’t included after the preposition. However, ending a sentence with a preposition isn’t the grave grammar mistake that some make it out to be.

Consider this sentence: “The vase was on the table until the cat knocked it off.” Ending with the preposition “off” sounds natural. By the same token, “That’s what I’m talking about” sounds better than “That’s about which I’m talking,” and the structure of “I have no eggs to bake with” is more common than “I have no eggs with which to bake.” As you can see, context and structure matter. 

However, just because it isn’t wrong doesn’t mean it’s always right. Sometimes, that ending preposition is redundant. Asking a friend, “Where are you at?” or “Where are you going to?” falls into this trap with unnecessary prepositions. “Where are you?” and “Where are you going?” are complete questions. To avoid this mistake, try removing the end preposition and see if the sentence still makes sense. 

To give some context, the argument for the rule dates back to the 17th century. Grammarians tried to instill Latin preposition placement rules into English, resulting in some believing these were hard-and-fast English rules. In modern English, preposition placement comes down to writing style — there’s no need to adhere to an arbitrary centuries-old rule. Today, most grammar guides and syntax experts agree that ending a sentence with a preposition is OK if it sounds natural and doesn’t break any true grammar rules.


TOPICS: Education; History; Reference
KEYWORDS: grammar; no; preposition; sentence; splitinfinitive; yes
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1 posted on 11/18/2024 8:47:25 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which we shall not put!


2 posted on 11/18/2024 8:48:33 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (NOT TIRED OF WINNING!)
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s something I will not put up with!.................


3 posted on 11/18/2024 8:48:45 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: SeekAndFind

It depends on what you’re doing it for.


4 posted on 11/18/2024 8:49:01 AM PST by enumerated (81 million votes my ass)
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To: SeekAndFind

A snobbish English teacher was sitting in an Atlanta airport coffee shop waiting for her flight back to Connecticut, when a friendly Southern Belle sat down next to her.

“Where y’all goin’ to?” asked the Southern Belle.

Turning her nose in the air, the snob replied “I don’t answer people who end their sentences with prepositions.”

The Southern Belle thought a moment, and tried again.

“Where y’all goin’ to, BITCH?”


5 posted on 11/18/2024 8:50:07 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SeekAndFind

It depends upon what you’re into.


6 posted on 11/18/2024 8:50:20 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: dfwgator

I use the word “huh”: “Where are you going to, huh?”


7 posted on 11/18/2024 8:51:09 AM PST by glennaro (2024: The Year of The Reckoning, lest our Republic succumb to the "progressive" disease of the Left)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Ya beat me to it!

I was going to write “Ending a sentence with a preposition is something we will not up with put.” but I guess I don’t need to write it any more.


8 posted on 11/18/2024 8:51:40 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (Republicans are the party that says ‘Government doesn’t work.’ Then they get elected and prove it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Where are you at?” or “Where are you going to?”

“Where you at?” or “Where you going?


9 posted on 11/18/2024 8:52:01 AM PST by TexasGator (11)
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To: SeekAndFind

In all series, almost any sentence that ends with as preposition can be rewritten to end without a preposition. Writers who end sentences with prepositions are generally lazy — at least that’s what Grandma taught me.


10 posted on 11/18/2024 8:54:13 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: dfwgator

LOL


11 posted on 11/18/2024 8:54:51 AM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: SeekAndFind

It should always be before a noun, never after.


12 posted on 11/18/2024 8:54:52 AM PST by pepsi_junkie ("We want no Gestapo or Secret Police. F. B. I. is tending in that direction." - Harry S Truman)
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To: SeekAndFind

Whatchoo say dat for?


13 posted on 11/18/2024 8:54:52 AM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Finish the damned WALL! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH! )
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To: SeekAndFind
The latter sounds unnatural

To people who use their speech and like it to be precise, its not unnatural at all.

14 posted on 11/18/2024 8:55:14 AM PST by PGR88
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To: SeekAndFind
If it's good enough for Obi-Wan it's good enough for me.


15 posted on 11/18/2024 8:55:20 AM PST by Frank Drebin (And don't ever let me catch you guys in America!)
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To: TexasGator

Never use a preposition to end a sentence with.
(From some forgotten English class)


16 posted on 11/18/2024 8:55:24 AM PST by KC_for_Freedom (retired aerospace engineer and CSP who also taught)
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To: Red Badger

Or as Churchill said (possibly apocryphal), “That is something up with which I will not put.”


17 posted on 11/18/2024 8:55:37 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Emerson paraphrased, "If you strike at the king, don't fail." The Democrats failed. )
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To: SeekAndFind

well yes, as long as...


18 posted on 11/18/2024 8:56:15 AM PST by Bob434
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve never wanted to.


19 posted on 11/18/2024 8:57:05 AM PST by j.havenfarm (23 years on Free Republic, 12/10/23! More than 8,000 replies and still not shutting up!)
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To: SeekAndFind

A kid from Alabama gets accepted to Harvard. Confused on his first day, he asks an upperclassman, “Excuse me sir. I’m new here and I don’t know my way around. Can you tell me where the library is at?” The upperclassman responds. “I don’t know who you are or how you got here. But this is Harvard, the finest, most prestigious and renowned University in the world. We have very high standards. We do not go about ending sentences in prepositions. Rephrase your question.” The new kid says. “Sure thing. “Excuse me sir. I’m new here and I don’t know my way around. Can you tell me where the library is at, a$$hole?”


20 posted on 11/18/2024 8:57:20 AM PST by FatherofFive (we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor)
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