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This scientist treated her own cancer with viruses she grew in the lab
Nature ^ | 08 November 2024 | Zoe Corbyn

Posted on 11/08/2024 2:37:21 PM PST by nickcarraway

Virologist Beata Halassy says self-treatment worked and was a positive experience — but researchers warn that it is not something others should try.

Viruses such as measles (pictured here) can be used to attack cancerous cells. Credit: Eye Of Science/Science Photo Library

A scientist who successfully treated her own breast cancer by injecting the tumour with lab-grown viruses has sparked discussion about the ethics of self-experimentation.

Beata Halassy discovered in 2020, aged 49, that she had breast cancer at the site of a previous mastectomy. It was the second recurrence there since her left breast had been removed, and she couldn’t face another bout of chemotherapy.

Halassy, a virologist at the University of Zagreb, studied the literature and decided to take matters into her own hands with an unproven treatment.

A case report published in Vaccines in August1 outlines how Halassy self-administered a treatment called oncolytic virotherapy (OVT) to help treat her own stage 3 cancer. She has now been cancer-free for four years.

In choosing to self-experiment, Halassy joins a long line of scientists who have participated in this under-the-radar, stigmatized and ethically fraught practice. “It took a brave editor to publish the report,” says Halassy.

(Excerpt) Read more at nature.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: breastcancer; cancer; cancertreatment; experimentation; healthcare; oncolyticvirotherapy; ovt; science; scientists; selfexperimentation; virologist; virology

1 posted on 11/08/2024 2:37:21 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Same ‘scientists’ took the licenses away from Dr’s who proved Ivermectin/Hydroxy were effective against Covid bc the pharma co’s had too much $$$ to make on the vaxx.

So excuse me for a minute telling me that “unproven”, “dangerous”, “unique” treatment that WORKED is somehow a bad thing. Pharma makes far more on cancer treatments than anything else and have exactly the same incentive to deep-six anything that could have promise.


2 posted on 11/08/2024 2:45:30 PM PST by TonyinLA (I have insufficient information to formulate a reasoned opinion said no lefty ever.)
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To: nickcarraway

I am generally fine with most self-experimentation, as long as it can’t affect any others, I’m good with it.


3 posted on 11/08/2024 2:45:40 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ConservativeMind

After all, she brought the consequences on herself.


4 posted on 11/08/2024 2:50:33 PM PST by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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To: nickcarraway

“She has now been cancer-free for four years.”

So she had a choice between seeking out the approval of some self-appointed ethics experts, or not dying, and chose the latter.


5 posted on 11/08/2024 2:58:06 PM PST by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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To: nickcarraway

Another 50’s science fiction film plot.


6 posted on 11/08/2024 3:07:14 PM PST by alternatives?
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To: No name given

Well, donating blood could let this go everywhere, over time.


7 posted on 11/08/2024 3:09:48 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: nickcarraway

The ethics are not self experimentation but where did the funds come from, was it done stealthily, was there IRB review, etc…


8 posted on 11/08/2024 3:13:51 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: nickcarraway
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My Uncle Fred used to make his own remedies. I don't think it cured cancer though

9 posted on 11/08/2024 3:15:54 PM PST by PGR88
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Fred must be a great scientist. That rig looks like it will produce two liters a day.


10 posted on 11/08/2024 4:00:17 PM PST by chopperk (air)
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To: ConservativeMind
I am generally fine with most self-experimentation, as long as it can’t affect any others,

It's the "create new virus" part that I have a big concern about.

11 posted on 11/08/2024 4:49:15 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (Your agenda is just words, unless you FIRST focus on gaining power.)
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To: nickcarraway
Bacillus Calmette-Guerin treatment is used for bladder cancer.

Of course that is a bacteria not a virus but the concept may actually be sound. Rather risky though.

12 posted on 11/08/2024 4:54:37 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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To: nickcarraway

How is it unethical to experiment on yourself?


13 posted on 11/08/2024 5:39:50 PM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: nickcarraway

Nearly the premise of “I Am Legend” which led to a zombie apocalypse.


14 posted on 11/08/2024 6:03:31 PM PST by unlearner (Make sure to hydrate, and breathe, and take care of yourself.)
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I read a paper about a Dr Cooley (early 1920s I think!) who introduced infections to fight cancer. I think they were bacterial infections (maybe viral!). It seemed to work at least that’s what his papers say. There was some independent testing that sort of agreed. It’s referred to in the literature ad Cooley’s Toxins. I think it was later deemed to be unreliable.


15 posted on 11/08/2024 6:10:27 PM PST by Reily
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To: nickcarraway
Looking forward to RFKjr's attempts to bust the pharmaceutical cartel, with anti-trust fervor. Or at least force out into the open BigPharma's domination of medical schools, medical journals, HMOs and other massive medical practice groups.

And America First! For many decades, U.S. pharma has been passing the R&D costs for medications on to our consumers, but share developed drugs at low cost with other nations or at no cost to NGOs that medicate the third world.

16 posted on 11/09/2024 8:15:10 AM PST by Albion Wilde (“Did you ever meet a woke person that’s happy? There’s no such thing.” —Donald J. Trump)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
the concept may actually be sound. Rather risky though.

Her body, her choice. The early history of injectable treatments contains many stories of researchers who used themselves to try formulas. Their bodies, their choice.

17 posted on 11/09/2024 8:17:03 AM PST by Albion Wilde (“Did you ever meet a woke person that’s happy? There’s no such thing.” —Donald J. Trump)
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To: Albion Wilde
Never said differently.

Just that it was risky.

Either way as long as she kept proper notes human knowledge would have advanced. A worthy goal in general.

18 posted on 11/09/2024 8:24:12 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Posted in support of your post; no intention to argue differently


19 posted on 11/09/2024 8:28:48 AM PST by Albion Wilde (“Did you ever meet a woke person that’s happy? There’s no such thing.” —Donald J. Trump)
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