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Posted on 10/02/2024 6:49:49 PM PDT by Az Joe
After seeing Carter being wheeled outside yesterday on his 100th birthday I, being 70, couldn't help feeling some sympathy for him and some fear of being in the same situation somedays. He looked oblivious to his surroundings and maybe pretty miserable.
I watched my sister deteriorate and die last May from complication's associated with Parkinson's disease over several years, especially in her last few months. She was very miserable and helpless to do almost anything for herself.
If she had wanted to kill herself and end her early misery, she would have been helpless to do it on her own. In the end, she went into hospice care and lasted almost exactly 2 weeks before she died. The hospice worker said when she was being admitted that she probably had about 2 weeks, (I guess they have seen it many times).
My faith requires that I would be expected to endure my medical condition, whatever it was, until my natural end. Of course, this may impact my loved ones greatly, who would be caring for me at least in some ways until the end.
I don't like the idea of all the suffering that might entail for me but also the burden I would be on especially my only child, and other loved ones who are currently dying off themselves slowly.
Any thoughts Freepers?
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The hospice worker said when she was being admitted that she probably had about 2 weeks, (I guess they have seen it many times).
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They time the opiate induced death pretty well.
And Moses was an hundred and twenty years old when he died: his eye was not dim, nor his natural force abated.Deuteronomy 34:7
Carter was very fortunate to make it to 100. He has had pretty decent quality of life until the last period of maybe 5 years or so. We never know what is in store for us. Prayers for mercy Dear Lord.
I’m 80 and what upsets me the most is that when I was young, no old people had the common decency to warn me
and tell me what was coming. It seems that old age is the punishment for the evil things we have done over the years.
I think about this a lot. I’ve outlived all my friends and family so being a burden isn’t a problem. You just have to trust that God won’t give you more than you can bear. I think one of the reasons thing deteriorate so much as we age is so when it’s time to go we can all say “thank God that’s over”
I am thinking the same things.
I have an issue with the tenant of faith that demands a natural end.
We can keep folks alive well past the due dates of the past, as it were. Not necessarily in great or even endurable shape but we can stave off death, while our systems slowly fail.
I still struggle with that a lot.
Do I really want to be a burden on anyone at my end? Is that some kind of hubris to keep breathing to a bitter finish?
Let's see if he dies this month in order that there be the spectacle of a State Funeral for which biden due to a "cold" cannot deliver the eulogy and cameltoe fills in to gushing wall-to-wall, non-stop praise from the media.
As for your situation, there is no reason to go out like Carter, or Reagan.
Accept whatever terminal condition comes. Treat it with nothing more than painkillers and the end will be quicker and more dignified.
LOL! Yeah, I’m 79 and a lot of old bills are coming due. As my father used to say, “If I’d known I would live this long I would have taken better care of myself.”
What would they have warned you (or me) about?
I too am in my 70th year. I think about the end of life and sometimes wish not to be a burden on the younger. However, I have come to believe that the younger need to learn about the eventual future that faces them. You have one child whom you nurtured through the years when they could not care for themselves. It will now be their turn to care for you at the end of your life. That is how life is, the circle will not be broken till the end of days.
Do you really believe they administer opiates to kill? The drugs kill because the necessary dosage to deal with pain finally gets to the patient.
Would you want to do without the drugs if you were in horrible pain with no prognosis of survival?
I tell people that age is inevitable and they shouldn’t worry about it. It sneaks up slowly enough that we have time to adapt.
The idea that it’s ‘punishment’ is ridiculous. We are all subject to genetics, disease, and simple wear and tear; and if we’ve been lazy about caring for our health, that’s the only thing we’re ‘punished’ for.
I told my kids to accidentally leave the liquid morphine bottle within my reach and go for a drive.
It took six months for my father to die slowly and in torture, just about everyone almost lost their jobs doing home hospice. Just this last Sunday I lost my wife after two months of pure torture for her.
Nope, I am not going to burden my family that way again... I don’t fear it. When it is time it is time and I will be ready for it.
Godspeed.
Maybe Death, Judgment, Heaven and Hell?
They give you enough to keep you comfortable but they dont deliberately overdose you. Hospice care is very caring.
[[ It seems that old age is the punishment for the evil things we have done over the years.]]
But for the saved- this life is as close to hell as we will ever get- yeah, it can get bad, but hell is going to reportedly be much much worse- for the unsaved- the saved however only have to endure a little time of suffering and then eternity with God
No guarantees but my thought is “just say no” to the cornucopia of modern geriatric medications. You would probably feel better until you don’t and then fade faster or crash, naturally. Don’t let big pharma and big medicine bleed your family dry by putting you in an indefinite, insensible invalidity.
Job 19
1 Then Job answered and said,
2 How long will ye vex my soul, and break me in pieces with words?
3 These ten times have ye reproached me: ye are not ashamed that ye make yourselves strange to me.
4 And be it indeed that I have erred, mine error remaineth with myself.
5 If indeed ye will magnify yourselves against me, and plead against me my reproach:
6 Know now that God hath overthrown me, and hath compassed me with his net.
7 Behold, I cry out of wrong, but I am not heard: I cry aloud, but there is no judgment.
8 He hath fenced up my way that I cannot pass, and he hath set darkness in my paths.
9 He hath stripped me of my glory, and taken the crown from my head.
10 He hath destroyed me on every side, and I am gone: and mine hope hath he removed like a tree.
11 He hath also kindled his wrath against me, and he counteth me unto him as one of his enemies.
12 His troops come together, and raise up their way against me, and encamp round about my tabernacle.
13 He hath put my brethren far from me, and mine acquaintance are verily estranged from me.
14 My kinsfolk have failed, and my familiar friends have forgotten me.
15 They that dwell in mine house, and my maids, count me for a stranger: I am an alien in their sight.
16 I called my servant, and he gave me no answer; I intreated him with my mouth.
17 My breath is strange to my wife, though I intreated for the children’s sake of mine own body.
18 Yea, young children despised me; I arose, and they spake against me.
19 All my inward friends abhorred me: and they whom I loved are turned against me.
20 My bone cleaveth to my skin and to my flesh, and I am escaped with the skin of my teeth.
21 Have pity upon me, have pity upon me, O ye my friends; for the hand of God hath touched me.
22 Why do ye persecute me as God, and are not satisfied with my flesh?
23 Oh that my words were now written! oh that they were printed in a book!
24 That they were graven with an iron pen and lead in the rock for ever!
25 For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:
26 And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:
27 Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another; though my reins be consumed within me.
God just give me a mission, or take me. End stage for a long time and that prayer has kept me going. I have done more since I became terminal than you can imagine.
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