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Was PI Just Hacked? STRING THEORY Scientists ‘STUMBLE UPON’ Whole New Way to Represent Famously Irrational Number
The Debrief ^ | June 26, 2024 | Christopher Plain

Posted on 06/26/2024 5:44:58 AM PDT by Red Badger

String theory scientists studying the behavior of high energy particles say they have stumbled upon a mathematical “hack” that revealed a whole new way to represent the irrational number Pi. While the research is purely theoretical, the duo behind the Pi hack says this kind of theoretical work holds rewarding potential.

The researchers also believe their work could lead to a number of potential breakthroughs in the future, similar to how theoretical breakthroughs made by physicists nearly a hundred years ago resulted in technological advancements decades later.

AFTER 4,000 YEARS, PI IS STILL A MYSTERY

Defined as the ratio of a circle’s circumference to its diameter and often represented with the symbol π, the earliest written representations of Pi date back to around 1,900 BC and 1,50 BC in Babylon and Egypt, respectively. Still, although the concept of Pi itself is rather straightforward, mathematicians have struggled for centuries to calculate the number accurately, leading to Pi being classified as irrational.

Unfortunately for modern scientists, Pi is often needed when performing calculations related to a wide range of scientific inquiries, including disciplines as disparate as chemical engineering and aerospace design. In these cases, scientists often use a mathematical “series” to represent Pi instead of a rounded-off approximation like the 3.14 most people are familiar with. According to the researchers behind this latest discovery, “if pi is the “dish” then the series is the “recipe.”

Still, those representations have limitations, leaving researchers continually searching for a more accurate and efficient way to represent this irrational number. Now, Arnab Saha, a postdoc, and Aninda Sinha, a Professor at the Centre for High Energy Physics at the Indian Institute of Science (IISc), say they have stumbled upon a whole new way to represent Pi. If proven, it may offer scientists a whole new method for using the number in complex calculations.

ACCIDENTAL DISCOVERY OCCURRED DURING HIGH-ENERGY PHYSICS RESEARCH

Surprisingly, the team behind the potentially historic discovery says they weren’t even searching for a new representation of Pi. Instead, they were working on an aspect of String Theory that involved calculating the interactions of high-energy particles.

“Our efforts, initially, were never to find a way to look at pi,” Sinha explained. “All we were doing was studying high-energy physics in quantum theory and trying to develop a model with fewer and more accurate parameters to understand how particles interact.”

According to Sinha, it was during this process that he and Saha stumbled upon a whole new way to represent Pi, with the researcher noting, “We were excited when we got a new way to look at Pi.”

While the mathematics of the discovery are rather complex, the team says they are not the first to glimpse this new representation of Pi. Instead, they say that their representation “closely reaches” a representation made in the 15th century by Indian mathematician Sangamagrama Madhav. The team also says that 20th-century researchers also got close to their discovery but simply lacked the tools necessary to take their solution to the finish line.

“Physicists (and mathematicians) have missed this so far since they did not have the right tools, which were only found through work we have been doing with collaborators over the last three years or so,” Sinha explains. “In the early 1970s, scientists briefly examined this line of research but quickly abandoned it since it was too complicated.”

To make their historic discovery, Sinha and Saha say they “clubbed together” two firmly established mathematical tools known as Euler-Beta Functions and the Feynman Diagram. According to the press release announcing the discovery, “Euler-Beta functions are mathematical functions used to solve problems in diverse areas of physics and engineering, including machine learning, [while] The Feynman Diagram is a mathematical representation that explains the energy exchange that happens while two particles interact and scatter.”

As hoped, combining these tools resulted in an efficient model to help explain the particle interactions the team was studying. However, when confirming their calculations, they noted that the combination also netted something completely unexpected: a whole new way to represent Pi.

“The series that Sinha and Saha have stumbled upon combines specific parameters in such a way that scientists can rapidly arrive at the value of pi,” the press release explains, “which can then be incorporated in calculations, like those involved in deciphering scattering of high-energy particles.”

PURELY THEORETICAL DISCOVERY COULD OFFER UNSEEN BENEFITS IN THE FUTURE

While the work, published in the journal Physical Review Letters, is still purely theoretical, the team believes its new representation of Pi could help scientists across a wide range of disciplines, if not immediately.

For example, Sinha noted that 20th-century researcher Paul Dirac began his work on the mathematics of the motion and existence of electrons way back in 1928. However, Dirac didn’t live to see how his findings ultimately provided clues to the discovery of the positron and then to the design of Positron Emission Tomography (PET), which lets doctors scan the human body for diseases and abnormalities.

The team also points out that scientists can still enjoy the pure aspects of theory. As far as Sinha is concerned, that can be its own type of reward.

“Doing this kind of work, although it may not see an immediate application in daily life, gives the pure pleasure of doing theory for the sake of doing it,” the researcher said.

Christopher Plain is a Science Fiction and Fantasy novelist and Head Science Writer at The Debrief. Follow and connect with him on X, learn about his books at plainfiction.com, or email him directly at christopher@thedebrief.org.


TOPICS: Astronomy; Computers/Internet; History; Science
KEYWORDS: mathematics; physics; pi
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To: Red Badger

Yeah. Ain’t nothing round, except in theory.


41 posted on 06/26/2024 6:41:39 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Red Badger

Pi are round.


42 posted on 06/26/2024 6:41:42 AM PDT by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda.)
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To: gundog
gundog @ 7: "I thought I heard that NASA did a lot of their computations in base 12 math, in which pi is a rational number."

An irrational number is irrational, no matter what base is used.

43 posted on 06/26/2024 6:44:01 AM PDT by Carl Vehse (The Constitution has a word for that.)
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To: Red Badger
I often hack pie.


44 posted on 06/26/2024 6:44:09 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Trump's experience? We're next.)
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To: gundog

Well played!!


45 posted on 06/26/2024 6:45:36 AM PDT by Mathews (I have faith Malachi is right!!! Any day now...)
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To: 17th Miss Regt
Circumference : diameter. Is this not a ratio?

It’s not an integer, but neither is 4/3.

46 posted on 06/26/2024 6:47:15 AM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: alloysteel

Pi are round. Cornbread are square.


47 posted on 06/26/2024 6:50:20 AM PDT by Tucker39 ("It is impossible so to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." George Washington )
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To: Red Badger

The main reason to calculate pi to trillions of decimals is to calibrate supercomputers.

Using a couple of different methods, they calculate pi to see how quick and accurate they are.


48 posted on 06/26/2024 6:51:09 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either)
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To: Rio

Maffs is racist.


49 posted on 06/26/2024 6:53:09 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: Red Badger

I’ve always believed pi r squared was wrong. Pi r round and best served with ice cream


50 posted on 06/26/2024 6:57:56 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment
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To: Red Badger
"... mathematicians have struggled for centuries to calculate the number accurately, leading to Pi being classified as irrational."

Mathematicians have known for centuries that pi is irrational. In 1760, Johann Heinrich Lambert was the first to prove pi is irrational. The Mathologer (Monash University mathematics professor Burkard Polster) has a YouTube animated version of Lambert's proof.

51 posted on 06/26/2024 7:07:26 AM PDT by Carl Vehse (The Constitution has a word for that.)
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To: gundog

Pi is not the ratio of two integers (whole numbers).

The circumference : diameter is a ratio and equal to pi, but the circumference and diameter cannot both be integers.


52 posted on 06/26/2024 7:23:09 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt ( )
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To: Red Badger

Egyptians didn’t know how to draw a circle.They drew meatballs. But they knew how to build a pyramid with precision up to 1/1000 of an inch. Sure they did. They worshipped a beetle that pushed balls of manure around all day. They wore manure balls held by the beetle on their royal crowns. Sure they built the Great Pyramid. No doubt whatsoever.


53 posted on 06/26/2024 7:30:33 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (Don't shoot until you see the whites of their lies)
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To: Carl Vehse

My math teacher was irrational.


54 posted on 06/26/2024 7:32:03 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (Don't shoot until you see the whites of their lies)
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To: Red Badger

All those words and yet no explanation of the new method? Science writers are mostly really terrible at what they do.


55 posted on 06/26/2024 7:38:06 AM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay Metal)
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To: Red Badger

Did I miss the explanation of what the new representation is? I know the OLD one is 22 over 7.


56 posted on 06/26/2024 7:42:32 AM PDT by FrankRizzo890
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To: Red Badger

Heck, I’ve done that.


57 posted on 06/26/2024 7:43:00 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (The Government that got us in this mess is not the Government that can get us out of it.)
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To: Red Badger

Seeking out any and every occasion for preaching the Gospel!


58 posted on 06/26/2024 7:43:28 AM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 ("The creation waits in eager expectation for the sons of God to be revealed." Romans 8:19)
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To: Sequoyah101; dayglored; gundog; Carl Vehse; 17th Miss Regt; lefty-lie-spy

https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.132.221601


59 posted on 06/26/2024 7:44:40 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Sequoyah101

60 posted on 06/26/2024 7:49:05 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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