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Some whiz kids figured out how to read charred scrolls from Pompeii and we have the text from the first scroll
Daily Mail UK ^ | February 5, 2024 | Stacy Liberatore

Posted on 02/07/2024 8:24:15 AM PST by SunkenCiv

The famous Herculaneum scroll, charred papyrus found buried by the Mount Vesuvius eruption in 79AD, has been deciphered by artificial intelligence.

The feat was achieved by students in the Vesuvius challenge, which used algorithms to scan the artifact that would otherwise had been destroyed if unraveled by human hands.

The winning team read more than 2,000 'never-before-seen' texts that discussed sources of pleasure, such as music, the taste of capers and the color purple.

The three students, from Egypt, Switzerland and the US, share a $700,000 grand prize for uncovering hundreds of words across more than 15 columns of text, corresponding to around five percent of an entire scroll.

The Vesuvius Challenge was launched in March 2023 by Brent Seales, a computer scientist at the University of Kentucky, and Silicon Valley backers.

At the time, Seales released thousands of 3D images of two rolled-up scrolls, as well as an AI program that had been trained to read letters in the marks left by ink.

Shortly after, Luke Farritor from Nebraska and Youssef Nader from Egypt independently revealed the same word hidden within the heart of the sealed manuscript - 'πορφύραc' - meaning purple dye or clothes of purple.

And the pair shared a $40,000 prize.

However, Monday's announcement revealed the grand prize winners, which also included Nadaer, Farritor, but in addition to Julian Schilliger, a Swiss robotics student at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Zurich.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: brentseales; egypt; epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; julianschilliger; lukefarritor; natfriedman; nathanfriedman; nebraska; romanempire; stacyliberatore; switzerland; vesuviuschallenge; villaofthepapyri; xenophantus; youssefnader
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1 posted on 02/07/2024 8:24:15 AM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...
All the scrolls that have been partially read have been of Epicurean philosophy, mostly by the same author. Thanks to two FReepers for the links!

2 posted on 02/07/2024 8:27:05 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: SunkenCiv

“It was the best of times, it was the worst of times.................


3 posted on 02/07/2024 8:28:11 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal qs are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: SunkenCiv

“Be sure to drink your Ovaltine.”

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4 posted on 02/07/2024 8:28:48 AM PST by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Lurker

A crummy commercial?


5 posted on 02/07/2024 8:29:08 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Herculaneum and Pompeii are two different places some distance apart. Pompeii was a serious commercial center, Herculaneum was a smaller seaside resort. The scrolls are from a buried library discovered some time ago at Herculaneum. They would have quickly burned at Pompeii.


6 posted on 02/07/2024 8:30:19 AM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative. . )
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To: SunkenCiv

“texts that discussed sources of pleasure”

What’s it say!? What’s it say!?

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7 posted on 02/07/2024 8:34:30 AM PST by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh
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To: SunkenCiv

It really makes you wish they hadn’t completely destroyed so many of the burned scrolls in the 19th century to unwrap a tiny little bit.


8 posted on 02/07/2024 8:37:29 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: SunkenCiv

“All your base are belong to us!”


9 posted on 02/07/2024 8:38:07 AM PST by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda.)
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To: SunkenCiv

10 posted on 02/07/2024 8:39:21 AM PST by DCBryan1 (Inter arma enim silent leges! - Cicero )
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To: Islander7

11 posted on 02/07/2024 8:40:52 AM PST by DCBryan1 (Inter arma enim silent leges! - Cicero )
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To: SunkenCiv

> The three students, from Egypt, Switzerland and the US… <

Wait a minute. None of them are Italian. So what business do they have reading Roman scrolls? This sure looks like cultural appropriation to me.

Somebody ought to contact somebody over this.


12 posted on 02/07/2024 8:42:55 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: dfwgator

“I am Spartacus!”


13 posted on 02/07/2024 8:46:17 AM PST by Kartographer (“We MutualBetter ly Pledge To Each Other Our Lives, Our Fortunes And Our Sacred Honor”)
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To: SunkenCiv

Congratulations on the birth of your child, Mr & Mrs Biden


14 posted on 02/07/2024 8:47:27 AM PST by j.havenfarm (23 years on Free Republic, 12/22/23! More than 8,000 replies and still not shutting up!)
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To: SunkenCiv
Scrolling down a bit in the article at link.
... The general subject of the text is pleasure, which, properly understood, is the highest good in Epicurean philosophy. ...
Destroyed AD 79.
15 posted on 02/07/2024 8:47:48 AM PST by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: FLT-bird; Larry Lucido
I try not to think about that.

If I had a time machine, I'd go back the night before the eruption and steal the scrolls, digitally scan all of them, then return them ten minutes after stealing them. It wouldn't matter how long it took to get the scanning done, as long as I set up the scanning lab in a different time and place prior to their rediscovery. :^)

I've got some other great plans regarding the use of technology that doesn't exist (AFAIK) and using money I don't have. :^)

16 posted on 02/07/2024 8:48:58 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Awesome!


17 posted on 02/07/2024 8:49:02 AM PST by BigFreakinToad (Remember the Biden Kitchen Fire of 2004)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Other scrolls have been found in Pompeii, just no libraries (so far). They didn’t get carbonized as they did in Herculaneum. The House of the Vettei was owned by a couple of freedmen (brothers, probably) and they financed their remodeling and probably small business using loans from a private banker who lived down the street. The loan records survived in the banker’s house. Not bad. :^)


18 posted on 02/07/2024 8:54:56 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Leaning Right

Give ‘em time.


19 posted on 02/07/2024 8:55:53 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Salman

Odd that the rest of the Empire continued to be interested in Epicureanism right up to the final fall, Constantinople, in 1453.


20 posted on 02/07/2024 8:57:00 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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