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Some whiz kids figured out how to read charred scrolls from Pompeii and we have the text from the first scroll
Daily Mail UK ^ | February 5, 2024 | Stacy Liberatore

Posted on 02/07/2024 8:24:15 AM PST by SunkenCiv

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To: BigFreakinToad
I wholeheartedly agree.

21 posted on 02/07/2024 8:58:18 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: WeaslesRippedMyFlesh

Throughout the buried towns of the Bay of Naples, tin roof rusted.


22 posted on 02/07/2024 8:59:03 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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Epstein didn’t kill himself


23 posted on 02/07/2024 9:04:34 AM PST by pricilla (one should always try to be smarter than the equipment one is operating - Amajato)
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To: All

24 posted on 02/07/2024 9:06:26 AM PST by Liz (Matthew 11.28-30: Come to me, all you who are weary and heavy laden, and I will give you strength.)
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To: SunkenCiv

The linked article in nature gives a much better explanation of how the scanning and deciphering process worked.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-00346-8?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=commission_junction&utm_campaign=CONR_PF018_ECOM_GL_PHSS_ALWYS_DEEPLINK&utm_content=textlink&utm_term=PID100032693&CJEVENT=e0a7c47dc5d911ee825701340a82b824

Its nonetheless simply amazing that computer-science students could train an AI model to form the patterns of a CT scan into letters and words.


25 posted on 02/07/2024 9:07:15 AM PST by PGR88
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To: All

The Unique Heritage of Herculaneum

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Due to the direction of the winds on the first day of the eruption, Pompeii was more severely affected. Many of the roofs collapsed under the weight of the falling ash and pumice stone, crushing all those who had tried to take refuge indoors and destroying most of the contents of the homes.

In the case of Herculaneum, the incandescent gas that killed the inhabitants evaporated rapidly and the heavy blanket of semi-liquid lava that covered the city carbonised, preserving many items of organic matter.

A particularly precious find was the collection of 1,800 scrolls found in the library of the palatial residence known as the Villa of the Papyri, which belonged to Julius Caesar’s father-in-law, Lucius Calpurnius Pisone.

The scrolls were preserved because they had been sealed off in a totally dry environment under 30 metres of solidified volcanic mud. Unfortunately, our guide told us, many of the manuscripts were so fragile that they crumbled into dust when they were touched.

Those that have survived are in the highly specialised restoration laboratory in the Archeological Museum of Naples. For security reasons, the Villa dei Papiri is not open to the public.


26 posted on 02/07/2024 9:13:53 AM PST by Liz (Matthew 11.28-30: Come to me, all you who are weary and heavy laden, and I will give you strength.)
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To: All

A glimpse of the magnificence that was Herculaneum.

27 posted on 02/07/2024 9:18:53 AM PST by Liz (Matthew 11.28-30: Come to me, all you who are weary and heavy laden, and I will give you strength.)
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To: Lurker

Hahahahahahaha!

Two posts in! Love it...:)


28 posted on 02/07/2024 9:34:49 AM PST by rlmorel ("The stigma for being wrong is gone, as long as you're wrong for the right side." (Clarice Feldman))
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To: SunkenCiv

It is amazing to realize that the “ancients” were really no different from modern culture, only separated by technology. Rome was the epitome of technology for its day. Society then, survived without refridgeration, (which I claim is the greatest invention of all time versus flight and automobiles).

What do you all think is the single greatest invention of all mankind?

Radio?
Printing Press?
Vaccines?
Internal Combustion Engine?
Compass?
iPhone?

Have at it. It is the simpliest of questions, yet a difficult answer. I posed the question to my wife and she had difficulty coming up with the answer.

How did I arrive at refridgeration as the greatest invention of all mankind? My faither told me when I was a little one. If he said it, it must be true!


29 posted on 02/07/2024 9:39:29 AM PST by abigkahuna (Honk Honk. It’s Clown World Out There. )
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To: PGR88

Thanks P. There’s been speculation that, since the House of the Papyri has more than one storey (that somehow wasn’t noticed until fairly recent years) there could be another, untouched library.

Meanwhile, putting together fragments of the Oxyrhynchus Papyri using AI seems like it may also be worthwhile.


30 posted on 02/07/2024 9:43:05 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: SunkenCiv

So we can decode these scrolls but not Hillary/Epstein/etc emails….,,

WWG1WGA!


31 posted on 02/07/2024 9:59:29 AM PST by Billyv ( Ephesians 6:11 for we battle not against flesh and blood...Pray for our leaders and nation )
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To: SunkenCiv
The feat was achieved by students in a contest that trained algorithms on scans of the artifact (pictured)

Very interesting & worthwhile read, thanks for sharing. 🙂 👍

32 posted on 02/07/2024 10:09:00 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: SunkenCiv

Lets hope it is better at the right answer than Chat GPT.


33 posted on 02/07/2024 10:21:02 AM PST by bgill
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To: abigkahuna
What do you all think is the single greatest invention of all mankind?

Cooking.

Nothing else is so universal among people and has changed us as much.

Anywhere you find humans you find cooking.

34 posted on 02/07/2024 10:29:34 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear ( In a quaint alleyway, they graciously signaled for a vehicle on the main road to lead the way. )
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To: Robert DeLong
My pleasure.

35 posted on 02/07/2024 10:47:59 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: bgill
:^)

36 posted on 02/07/2024 10:48:06 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: abigkahuna
Writing.

37 posted on 02/07/2024 10:48:57 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: SunkenCiv
The loan records survived in the banker’s house.

Do you realize how much interest those guys owe by now? Not to mention back taxes.

38 posted on 02/07/2024 10:52:54 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: abigkahuna

“ What do you all think is the single greatest invention of all mankind.”

Modern water treatment.

This did more to extend the human lifespan than anything else.

L


39 posted on 02/07/2024 11:26:04 AM PST by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Billthedrill

Imagine the overdue book fees that have accumulated on these scrolls!


40 posted on 02/07/2024 11:33:48 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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