Posted on 09/15/2023 5:59:41 AM PDT by MNDude
Suppose a foreign country, whichever, mexico, china, Russia, Etc, sent an army to March into San Francisco and then annexed it into their country.
Rhe citizens of San Francisco would now pay taxes to that country and would would follow thier laws.
Would you fight or have your son fight to liberate the city although it's values are very different from your own? Would you view them as fellow Americans that deserve Liberation just the same?
Or would you gave the opinion that is not worth fighting for?
I believe some of these individuals have no moral compass other than “mah nation”.
If USA annexed Sodom and Gommarah they would be screaming how it needed to be defended.
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First they came for San Francsicko.
That's it's. Who cares. Whoever they are can have it. And be sorry they took it.
Jokes on Martin Niemoller.
I’m the one first came for the socialists and it felt damn good and the world was a better place without the bastard commies.
Only after the foreign army annihilated the total population of San Francisco.
Whoever “they” are that would invade San Francisco, I would encourage them to read this story by O. Henry first.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ransom_of_Red_Chief
Have you two been fitted for your uniform yet? Have you received your orders to ship out to Frisco yet?
In case you don’t realize it - San Francisco HAS been invaded. By enemies from within.
We should respond with bone-crushing bombing and a relentless and vicious defense of our nation such that the offspring of the invaders would convulse at the mention of USA for generations.
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Yeah Right. As if that happened. Instead of doing that, we entered in a years long losing war in the Middle East.
And then elected a muslim as president just 7 years later.
What caused you to forsake our nation?
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Our nation, as we knew it, ceased to exist on January 6, 2021.
Many would argue the USA flunked out long before then.
As you probably already know, the rules for use of deadly force are different for private citizens, law enforcement, and the military.
For the first, use of deadly force is usually the least bad choice in a whole range of bad choices. Even if it is ruled a “good shoot,” the aggrieved family and/or anti-gun activists activists may engage in lawfare to bankrupt the shooter. That’s why they sell CCW insurance.
For LEOs, the use of deadly force requires having a lot of less-than-lethal measures either fail or be overcome by events in the moment. In addition, current practice for some prosecutors to regard any ambiguity in a police shooting as a potential murder/manslaughter case makes officers even more reticent to use deadly force.
By contrast, for the military, a threat is a problem and a dead threat is no longer a problem. That’s why non-MP military personnel on domestic civil disturbance duty have to be carefully supervised by law enforcement liaisons. Otherwise, “mistakes” are made.
I imagine that, in reconquering the San Francisco area (or any other area that was invaded), the military might make a number of mistakes regarding persons they encountered whose status was “unclear. “.
One can only hope.
This is a tough one....
kind of a silly question. of course!! but, what came next would be the real challenge!! taking it back from the libs who lost it!! ...because no doubt they would all return after the fight and want it back!!
Maybe San Francisco is the USA to you, but it isn't to me. It can all burn down, be swallowed up by an earthquake or be invaded, it's doesn't matter one bit to me. My only hope is that you and your fellow pumpkin carvers are there when it happens.
San Francisco is valuable real estate; I'd fight for it on that basis.
Yes with a Titan II ICBM outs Kansas! A brilliant flash & a real loud bang & the problems of San Francisco are gone😛
I didn’t say we got it right!
I’m saying that SF, LA, NYC, Austin, Philadelphia….these awful blue cities are still American cities.
Manhattan was attacked. I wasn’t on FR then but I’ve seen the threads….nobody was recommending letting it fall, or “ you voted against Dubya…tough.”
Maybe I’m old-fashioned, but if China, Russia, or whatever attacked SF, I’d support a full Congressional Declaration of War, and then unleash the Marines et al on the attacker - not a weak surrogate.
No, but I would send beer, water, potato chips and smoked sausage to the invaders......
“What caused you to forsake our nation?”
“Our nation” has decided it wants to fight wars all over the world to make the world safe for perverts.
I am proud to “forsake” that garbage.
“ Have you two been fitted for your uniform yet? Have you received your orders to ship out to Frisco yet?”
I already served my time. Disabled vet.
Bet they would choose Russia over your globohomo Biden warmongering loser leadership as well.
This country is not to be confused with the country it was under Trump.
I know this is difficult for you.
Enjoy your choice!
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