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In New York, A Very Slow Political Awakening
Manhattan Contrarian ^ | 4 Feb, 2023 | Francis Menton

Posted on 02/05/2023 6:32:33 AM PST by MtnClimber

Here in New York, both State and City, we have supposedly committed ourselves by law to ambitious greenhouse gas reduction targets that are somehow going to “save the planet.” The targets for a few years out are completely impossible to achieve, and have been adopted without any meaningful consideration of whether the technology to meet them even exists short of leaving large numbers of people without heat or electricity. Sooner or later we will run at full speed into the green energy wall, but exactly when and how that will occur remains undetermined.

Maybe the first crunch will come via New York City’s Local Law 97. That statute, passed by the City Council in 2019, sets declining mandates for greenhouse gas emissions from buildings. Buildings failing to achieve the mandated levels face fines starting as early as 2024. The 2024 standards will be met by most buildings without major changes, but after that the mandated levels of emissions decline, and the fines increase. Slowly, large numbers of building owners are figuring out that the standards for 2030 cannot be met at all with natural gas heat, even with the very latest and most efficient equipment.

A couple of days ago I trekked out to deepest Queens, to its farthest northeast regions, where the local City Councilperson (by the name of Vickie Paladino) held a press conference on what to do about Local Law 97. In this area of Queens the predominant housing type is garden apartment coops, and the press conference was specifically focused on the problems of these coop buildings in complying with LL97. Ms. Paladino was there to announce that she had just introduced a bill in the Council to delay the implementation dates of LL97’s requirements for 7 years.

Besides Ms. Paladino, several presidents of local coops spoke. One speaker was a guy named Bob Friederich, the president of the very largest coop in the area, called Glen Oaks, with well over 1000 units. Here is a picture of one of the many buildings of Glen Oaks:

Friederich said that his coop had commissioned a study which indicated that for their buildings, no natural gas heat system could comply with the LL97 requirements come 2030, and that a replacement electric heat pump system would cost a completely unaffordable $25 million or so. Alternatively, the buildings would face fines starting at well over $1 million per year and escalating from there. Officers of a couple of other coop boards had comparable numbers to share. Meanwhile, New York State’s edicts for emissions reductions on a supposed path to Net Zero are completely clueless as to where the electricity is going to come from to switch all buildings to electric heat, let alone all cars to electricity as well.

So Friederich’s position was that his coop had been put in an impossible position, and he had no plan for what to do — other than to tell the politicians to change the ridiculous law.

The hostess of the press conference, Councilwoman Paladino, is one of just 6 Republicans on a City Council of 51 members. She pointed out that LL97 had passed the Council in 2019 by a vote of 48-3. However, there are the slightest glimmerings that a very slow awakening may be beginning. Also attending the press conference were two other Councilmembers — Linda Lee, from an adjacent district in Eastern Queens, and Ari Kagan from Brooklyn. Kagan, who represents a heavily Russian district in South Brooklyn (and who spoke with a heavy Russian accent), was initially elected as a Democrat in 2021, but switched to Republican just a year later in 2022. Ms. Lee is a Democrat, but indicated that her district has a higher concentration of coops than any other district in the City. She is clearly feeling some pressure to do something about this law. If she is feeling some pressure, that means that others are too.

These are just the first indications of pushback, as people slowly awaken to the crazy consequences of the laws to which we are supposedly committed. Obviously, it’s difficult to predict how this will play out. But these are middle-income coops, and I can’t see their owners all suddenly agreeing to discard perfectly functional gas heat systems with 10 or 20 years of useful life remaining, and springing for $25,000 or more per apartment to put in new heat pump systems that can’t keep the apartment warm when the temperature goes down to 20 degrees, as it regularly does around here. (Last night the low was 4 deg F.). More likely, they will stand their ground and dare the authorities to impose the million dollar fines. With several hundred thousand of these coops, in the end it won’t happen.

But while the grassroots revolt is only in its beginning stages, up at the commanding heights the climate bandwagon plows ahead as if nothing is changing. On January 10 Governor Hochul announced as part of her budget proposals that she wanted a new “cap and invest” system imposed as the means to effect rapid reductions in carbon emissions. I think the term “cap and invest” is some new branding, given the bad vibes that now accompany the prior brand name of “cap and trade.” But the idea is the same: limits for greenhouse gas emissions will be set, and then decreased each year. This will force the price of fossil fuel use up, and thus supposedly decrease the usage. In other words, the people will be punished for their sinful use of energy. From the Governor’s announcement:

Governor Kathy Hochul today announced a Cap-and-Invest Program to fund a sustainable and affordable future for all New Yorkers as part of the 2023 State of the State. Governor Hochul directed the Department of Environmental Conservation and the New York State Energy Research and Development Authority to advance an economywide Cap-and-Invest Program that establishes a declining cap on greenhouse gas emissions, invests in programs that drive emissions reductions in an equitable manner prioritizing disadvantaged communities, limits costs to economically vulnerable households, and maintains the competitiveness of New York industries.

They’re going to gratuitously impoverish New Yorkers by forcing up the cost of energy for no discernible reason, but supposedly mitigate the effects in some way by passing out billions of dollars raised via carbon auctions to favored political constituencies. Again, the chance of this actually getting fully implemented over the next ten years is minimal, but exactly how it will all fall apart is impossible to predict. It will all be an excellent opportunity for Republicans if they play their cards right.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: energy; globalwarminghoax; greenenergy; greenscam; locallaw97; newyork; nyc

1 posted on 02/05/2023 6:32:33 AM PST by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

Will the last person to leave New York please turn off the light switch just in case the electricity comes back on one day.


2 posted on 02/05/2023 6:32:43 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

New Yorkers keep electing brain-dead administrators.


3 posted on 02/05/2023 6:36:08 AM PST by chopperk ( )
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To: MtnClimber

Good article—btw have you seen which large state had the biggest net percentage loss in population last year?

https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/americans-fleeing-high-tax-new-york-and-california-heres-where-theyre-going

At the rate New York state is going (losing 1% net population in one year) those buildings the article discusses will have a lot of vacancies in coming years...

If any Freeper owns residential or commercial property in New York state, now is the time to bail—beat the rush!


4 posted on 02/05/2023 6:38:06 AM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: MtnClimber

“Coop”? As in chicken? They raise a lot of chickens?


5 posted on 02/05/2023 6:46:18 AM PST by KrisKrinkle (c)
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To: MtnClimber

It’s about creating a new class of slaves. You will own nothing. And you will be happy. Your current lifestyles will be made impossible, but different lifestyles — pleasing to your masters — will be made available to you and will be paid for by the government. It’s free! It’s free! Enjoy your bugs.


6 posted on 02/05/2023 6:46:22 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (“You want it one way, but it’s the other way”)
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To: cgbg

Nope. Those vacancies will be filled with illegals living on UGI and/or welfare - all while the nation slowly collapses around them.


7 posted on 02/05/2023 6:47:42 AM PST by TTFlyer (Lenin: that by the infliction of terror, a well-organized minority can conquer a nation.)
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To: KrisKrinkle

Co-Op.


8 posted on 02/05/2023 6:50:52 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: TTFlyer

Notice that the New York population drop is a “net” number—that means that there are not enough illegals moving to New York to replace the former taxpayers and property owners who fled.

California is a better fit for what you described—the net population loss has been slower (on a percentage basis)—and of course the border is a lot closer—and the weather is a lot more pleasant.


9 posted on 02/05/2023 6:51:52 AM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: MtnClimber

BS!! NYC re-elected Hochul - Lee Zelda won most NY Counties in the rest of the State - people in NYC want Democrat Socialism


10 posted on 02/05/2023 6:56:51 AM PST by EC Washington
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To: MtnClimber

Nazis like to burn books, so how much of a stretch is it to start setting buildings on fire that don’t comply with government mandates? They can call in their Antifa and BLM experts to eliminate scofflaws.


11 posted on 02/05/2023 7:13:46 AM PST by Bernard (“the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God." JFK 1-20-61)
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To: MtnClimber

While it is encouraging that these people realize the Climate Goofballism is untenable, their own comments do not suggest a “pushback.” They suggest some sort of meek compliance.


12 posted on 02/05/2023 7:24:19 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix) )
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To: cgbg

Am I wrong? I didn’t really see any “slow awakening” or “pushback” that Menton cites, but rather a slow strangling compliance.


13 posted on 02/05/2023 7:28:01 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix) )
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To: LS
Pushback will only come when people do not have too much to lose.
14 posted on 02/05/2023 7:36:48 AM PST by Roccus (Veritas, non verba magistri)
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To: MtnClimber

I believe that actually applies to the entire northeastern states.


15 posted on 02/05/2023 7:40:20 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: MtnClimber

Eff them all.


16 posted on 02/05/2023 7:59:18 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: MtnClimber
It will all be an excellent opportunity for Republicans if they play their cards right.

Never underestimate the ability of Republicans to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

17 posted on 02/05/2023 8:15:29 AM PST by AlaskaErik (There are three kinds of rats: Rats, Damned Rats, and DemocRats.)
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To: MtnClimber
This has nothing to do with the environment and everything to do with just raising money for the government.

NYC doesn’t produce anything these days other than municipal garbage, so eventually you get to the point where the only way to raise revenue is to tax people on their very existence.

18 posted on 02/05/2023 8:38:13 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: MtnClimber

Bkmk


19 posted on 02/05/2023 9:23:58 AM PST by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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