Posted on 12/18/2022 4:33:06 PM PST by DallasBiff
The key to my approach is that you don’t wait for women to pick you.
You pick what you want and you go after it.
Their first reaction, as you say, will be rejection.
That is step one.
That is where the sense of humor and fun and people skills are needed to get her laughing and keep her attention.
Of course that is best done in person—so social circles are the way to go to make it work.
The secret of life is to be fully aware of all the difficulties, and then plot a strategy to overcome them.
Men can date way above where they “should” if they are strategic about it.
Wasn ‘t Charles Atlas gay?
Celibate literally means—single. Unmarried.
Holy Mother Church is clear on this.
Everyone is to exercise “chastity” according to their state in life. This is true even married men, for whom chastity means, the marital union, with one’s wife, in such a way as to remain open to the procreation of children, and that, is, it.
Unmarried men, like priests, are to remain sexually “continent”. Find something else to do with yourself and stop trying to pursue a so-called “sex life”.
No pornographic materials, no self abuse, if you see “something”, don’t sweat it. Just look away. Custody of the eyes is key.
I have no idea if he was happy or not.
Nonsense!
Every pot has a lid. Every guy can find the right girl if he puts down the smart phone, gets out of the house, and starts seriously looking.
And prayer helps.
I don’t disagree with you on your points in terms of making males more attractive than society perceives them. I agree that males can learn to punch above their weight, if they work on themselves to become the best that they can be.
However, where I cannot agree with you is that we aren’t in a society where you are going to be given the time to show your better qualities. If you don’t have the desired qualities upfront, you’re going to be cock-blocked before you have a chance to even say a word.
The situation only starts to equalize when both men and women are in their thirties. Men have the income and status and women come to realize that the best men were just using them and they should seek somebody more down to earth.
Women who cant get men, its mens fault
Men who cant get women, its mens fault
Whatever it is between men and women, its always mens fault
If about 60% of women are only availing themselves to the top 20% of men, that leaves 40% of the women for the remaining 80% of men.
Your math doesn’t work.
I think Jonty looks at the new recruits and sees a bunch of losers.
I look at them and see boys who can become men with a bit of basic training and live fire exercises.
;-)
The good news is most guys don’t need x percent of this or y percent of that.
Many will be happy to just one good woman (at a time, at least).
Statistics are great at 30,000 feet—but men meet women on the ground one at a time.
Ha, Chateau Heartiste! Way back when I first noticed it online, it seemed to be what might be called a dating advice website for men. It was well written. I could see why feminists might have disliked it, but apparently the left somehow rebranded it as being nothing more than a white supremacist website. Searching for “Chateau Heartiste” on Wikipedia now redirects to “Alt-right.” The website I visited was politically conservative, but there simply was no white supremacism.
“If you don’t have the desired qualities upfront, you’re going to be cock-blocked before you have a chance to even say a word.”
The way you beat that (let us say for example in a university setting) is you become the fun funny life of the party in the group setting.
That makes you socially acceptable even if you don’t meet the physical characteristics.
Women love leaders—and leaders come in all shapes and sizes.
In the chess club, for example, the chess club “leader” has a huge advantage over any competition, regardless of their height or other status.
In the war sense this is shaping the battlefield—using Sun Tzu tactics of retreating when the conditions are not right and attacking when the field is to your advantage.
In the old days many young men understood this—often learned it by osmosis in the military and could apply it in social settings.
I learned those things from my grandfather. Most valuable lessons of my life.
L
“Chateau Heartiste”
It was a great site.
The key was it taught men what they needed to do to improve their SMV (sexual market value).
The gloom and doomers have it wrong—men have a lot of tools to work with—both physical and mental major transformation is totally doable—often in less than a year of hard work.
“They could all benefit from a Dale Carnegie course on “how to Win Friends and Influence People.”
I saw Dale Carnegie. More importantly I listened to him. My dad sent me when I started my career in sales.
Thanks, Dad.
L
Unfortunately as a young man I had to learn most of the lessons the hard way....trial and error...
;-)
You have great advice for young men.
I don’t get this hang up on height. It’s ridiculous.
I dated a young man for a year way back when. Mind you, this was when “dating” meant going out and having a good time...no sexual activity involved.
He was kind, courteous, witty, and a great dancer. He always had a perfect plan for weekends. It might involve a Broadway Show, a Yankees ballgame, dancing at the Waldorf Roof.
He stood 5’5” tall, and he was a fine man.
No, I did not marry him, but I still have all his letters to me, recounting life “On the Town”, in the New York City of my youth.
Agreed on Dale Carnegie.
If they are any incels out there that is a great place to start.
Then practice winning and influencing male friends.
Once that is mastered it is a lot easier to deal with women.
Height and other surface appearances are first impressions.
Obviously in the modern world on online dating they matter.
That is why young men who lack those attributes need to break the rules—find social circles where they can meet women in person.
Life is never easy—everyone needs to step up to challenges, face disappointment, and overcome the “statistics” against them and succeed anyway.
You see it all the time—the short average looking guy with an attractive woman on his arm.
Maybe he is rich—but maybe he has just mastered the needed skills....
The hang-up on height, I think has to do with the competition between women. Women compete for status more than men do and being able to show off your tall boyfriend makes them seem more of a winner than somebody who has a 5’10” boyfriend.
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