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To: cgbg

You have great advice for young men.

I don’t get this hang up on height. It’s ridiculous.

I dated a young man for a year way back when. Mind you, this was when “dating” meant going out and having a good time...no sexual activity involved.

He was kind, courteous, witty, and a great dancer. He always had a perfect plan for weekends. It might involve a Broadway Show, a Yankees ballgame, dancing at the Waldorf Roof.

He stood 5’5” tall, and he was a fine man.

No, I did not marry him, but I still have all his letters to me, recounting life “On the Town”, in the New York City of my youth.


57 posted on 12/18/2022 6:20:36 PM PST by miserare ( Impeach Joe Biden!)
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To: miserare

Height and other surface appearances are first impressions.

Obviously in the modern world on online dating they matter.

That is why young men who lack those attributes need to break the rules—find social circles where they can meet women in person.

Life is never easy—everyone needs to step up to challenges, face disappointment, and overcome the “statistics” against them and succeed anyway.

You see it all the time—the short average looking guy with an attractive woman on his arm.

Maybe he is rich—but maybe he has just mastered the needed skills....


59 posted on 12/18/2022 6:25:19 PM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: miserare

The hang-up on height, I think has to do with the competition between women. Women compete for status more than men do and being able to show off your tall boyfriend makes them seem more of a winner than somebody who has a 5’10” boyfriend.


60 posted on 12/18/2022 6:26:29 PM PST by Jonty30 (THE URGE TO SAVE THE WORLD IS ALMOST ALWAYS AN URGE TO RULE IT)
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To: miserare
I don’t get this hang up on height. It’s ridiculous. I dated a young man for a year way back when. Mind you, this was when “dating” meant going out and having a good time...no sexual activity involved. [...] He stood 5’5” tall, and he was a fine man.

Thanks for your "walk down Memory Lane," but this isn't 1946 and "The Best Years of Our Lives" anymore.

Dateable women routinely list "height = 6 ft or above" as one of their basic requirements for a "match."

I know that, in reality, this requirement isn't actually that "hard and fast" - it's more like a whim - but then, they feel so entitled that they believe that they can list a series of parameters (height, income, age, etc.) that successively reduce the pool of eligible men from 100% to 10% to 1% to 0.1%. (They are the mathematical equivalent of illiterate - namely: innumerate - and so don't grasp that fact.)

Rollo Tomasi, Kevin Samuels (R.I.P.), Joker ("Better Bachelor,") etc. have convincingly pointed out (and provided the necessary statistical evidence to back up the claim) that modern women in the dating market don't understand the consequences of eliminating 99%+ of the pool of available candidates. They think that they're simply so "awesome" ("Disney princesses," "queens") that they "deserve" what they want and would be doing themselves a disservice if they "settled for less."

They don't understand or simply can't grasp (psychologically) that they are competing with virtually all other women on the dating market for this extremely rarified group of "Alphas" or "High-Value Men."

The typical woman doesn't even see men who don't conform to their (unrealistic) ideals. Nor do they see the droves of fellow women with whom they are competing - so they can't comprehend the mathematical unlikelihood of the task they have set for themselves.

As Tomasi et al. also point out: Many such women do succeed in occasionally attracting the (short-term) attention of a "High-Value Man" (who, in reality, has no other intention than to "pump and dump" them - NOT become involved in a Long-Term Relationship). This only reinforces the fallacious belief (of 80% of all dating women) that they are on a par with the top 10% of all dating men. "But I had plenty of High-Value men 'hook up' for me for a wild weekend! That proves that I'm a High-Value Woman!"

These women - some of whom are at best 3s or 4s on the 1-10 scale - thus deceive themselves into thinking that they must be 7s or 8s.

You will also routinely hear from such women, when they hit their 30s, that they have become only more valuable to men (i.e., that their Sexual Market Value has increased) because they are now "more mature," "more thoughtful," have better finances, or higher educational degrees (as though HVM are actually looking for that!).

In short, society at large (incl. feminism, Disneyism, etc.) has done all it can to convince these women that they have a SMV far higher than it actually is - and that that SMV is constantly rising as they age - instead of the reverse.

At the same time, our sick society is trying to persuade men to believe that they must "lack self-confidence" or be "weak men" if they are not willing and eager to come to the rescue of these women (many of whom are, by then, single mothers with multiple "baby-daddies") haunting the dating market well past their "best-used-by" date.

Regards,

101 posted on 12/19/2022 6:34:49 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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