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Even More Young Americans Are Unfit to Serve, a New Study Finds. Here's Why.
yahoo ^ | 09/29/2022

Posted on 09/29/2022 7:12:53 AM PDT by devane617

A new study from the Pentagon shows that 77% of young Americans would not qualify for military service without a waiver due to being overweight, using drugs or having mental and physical health problems.

A slide detailing the findings from the Pentagon's 2020 Qualified Military Available Study shared with Military.com shows a 6% increase from the latest 2017 Department of Defense research that showed 71% of Americans would be ineligible for service.

"When considering youth disqualified for one reason alone, the most prevalent disqualification rates are overweight (11%), drug and alcohol abuse (8%), and medical/physical health (7%)," the study, which examined Americans between the ages of 17 and 24, read. The study was conducted by the Pentagon's office of personnel and readiness.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: military; notsurprised
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Males cannot be pushed to their limits when the limit is the female limit.

What was fine for you was inadequate for the males and for the Army’s needs.


61 posted on 09/29/2022 9:12:12 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

Fine. I was just relaying my experience. If you’ve ever read my posts, I, personally am NOT in favor of females in combat. And I don’t think the standards should be lowered for females, especially for Firefighters and Cops.

Support roles are fine for females and more than needed in wartime, as we have historically held since Molly Pitcher, Florence Nightingale, Abigail Adams, Joan of Arc, et al. :)


62 posted on 09/29/2022 9:16:29 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: nonliberal

“fire everyone and train warriors”

Sorry, you fired everyone. You have nobody with which to train warriors.

And, the problem in this thread is American youth. They’re overweight and have other problems. Could you focus on that?

I think having platoon-sized formations of jr. ROTC students running in formation in the streets of their communities would do those students and their communities a lot of good in terms of building pride in themselves and in our country.


63 posted on 09/29/2022 9:18:01 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: pfflier

That is a sad situation, and thanks for the insight into the true goings on.


64 posted on 09/29/2022 9:26:34 AM PDT by devane617 (RUN FOR LOCAL ELECTED OFFICE! COUNCIL,SCHOOL BOARD, ETC.)
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To: Yardstick
95% of high schoolers using marijuana? I have a hard time believing that.

Particularly since it was legalized for recreational use. Interestingly the students freely admitted using pot after legalization. It was part of their social order in peer groups. Our school was 85% hispanic and 12% white.

Someone always had some on them. You could see the circles forming around them in the common areas as they passed it around.

The clue was a sudden decline in interest and achievement. That was measurable by grades. It usually started right after the first nine week report cards.

65 posted on 09/29/2022 9:32:51 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: Redmen4ever

Because compulsory military service worked so well in Vietnam.


66 posted on 09/29/2022 9:38:29 AM PDT by nonliberal (Z.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

It depends on what one means by support, main post stuff is fine, where the men don’t have to mix with the hospital staff and the accountants and the lawyers and secretaries, and dentists, but support around the fighters needs to be males and warriors themselves.

Estrogen and cute teen girls do not help warriors bond and concentrate on becoming killers and violent machines of war, delivering death and destruction to our enemies.

Support means muscle, whether as a cook, or a guard, driving trucks through winter mud and forests, mechanics, carrying wounded and stretchers, changing a truck tire, loading artillery shells and boxes for the front everyone, and especially when enemy paratroopers are landing among the support.

This new Orwellian idea that the left has pushed as though the Infantry are surrounded by support soldiers who don’t do anything that the men’s girlfriends and moms can’t physically do, is insane.


67 posted on 09/29/2022 9:39:42 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: devane617

Being overweight was not a concern for the Marine Corps when I went to boot camp in 1973. Fat bodies were put into the fat boy platoon until they reached their target weight. Then they were cycled into a platoon to begin their actual boot camp training.


68 posted on 09/29/2022 9:45:53 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (In time of peace, prepare for war.)
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To: AlaskaErik

See post 45, there is a huge difference between a slightly overweight male of 50 years ago and one today.


69 posted on 09/29/2022 10:08:09 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: devane617

Too many of our youth are getting overweight sitting down and playing video games.


70 posted on 09/29/2022 10:29:53 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: Vaduz

This same Penetgon that says white supremacist or anyone questiuning the 2020 elections are the biggest threat to the USA and to “democracy”, even more so than ISIS is now telling us all of sudden fat stupid “yutes” are the problem. GET REAL YOU ARE BEING FED BS.


71 posted on 09/29/2022 10:49:11 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Redmen4ever

BS. This is a CYA cover story for how disasterous woke-ism has been for military recruiting.


72 posted on 09/29/2022 10:50:45 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: nonliberal

This is not responsive.


73 posted on 09/29/2022 10:51:29 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: devane617

Oh, don’t worry. The pending mass global starvation our “betters” have engineered will cause everyone to shed the pounds in no time.


74 posted on 09/29/2022 10:56:33 AM PDT by Intar
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To: pfflier

Still hard for me to believe that number but I can certainly see any degree of general acceptance and use having bad effects on achievement. They weren’t allowed to use it out in the open during school hours were they?


75 posted on 09/29/2022 11:05:02 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: ansel12; All

I agree. Push ‘em back! Push ‘em back! WAY BACK!

I was in a Support Battalion for a good chunk of my Army career. We moved Bullets, Beans & Gasoline to the front lines, no matter where those lines were. Support Battalions took the brunt of injuries during Operations Desert Shield/Storm.

They made many changes to our MTOE (Modified Table Of Organization & Equipment) to keep the females out of combat positions.

Anyhow, I’ll just put in a COMMERCIAL here because female Veterans are becoming way too large of a statistic for our homeless these days.

https://www.finalsaluteinc.org/Home.html

https://www.operationwearehere.com/FemaleVeterans.html

There, but for the Grace of God, go I.


76 posted on 09/29/2022 11:54:47 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Women are not physically or mentally suited for the military.

Females also suffer PTSD at a huge rate, and it isn’t tied to having been in combat but merely being in the military.

Their injury rate from ordinary military work and training is sky high as well, they are going to bleed our military budgets, disability pensions, and VA hospitals dry.


77 posted on 09/29/2022 12:00:58 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Yardstick
They weren’t allowed to use it out in the open during school hours were they?

It wasn't a question of whether they were allowed, it was if they thought they could get away with it. The introduction of edibles and vaping THC reduced the detection probability of smoking pot.

My number included experimenters, occasional use and hard core users. I'd say about 35% are totally addicted to the stuff and use it every chance they get. An easy 50% more are opportunists. They use it if offered. The other 10% are socially pressured to use it when in groups.

There were a few holdouts and they were mostly Mormon kids.

78 posted on 09/29/2022 12:11:18 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: Yardstick
95% of high schoolers using marijuana?

But only in the late evening...Oh, occasionally the early evening, but usually the late evening – or the mid-evening. Just the early evening, midevening and late evening. Occasionally, early afternoon, early midafternoon, or perhaps the late-midafternoon. Oh, sometimes the early-mid-late-early morning. . . . But never at dusk.

79 posted on 09/29/2022 12:15:20 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: devane617

Basic training used to clean up a lot of physical issues back in the 60’s and 70’s.


80 posted on 09/29/2022 2:43:21 PM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dreams)
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