Posted on 09/13/2022 9:40:12 AM PDT by Red Badger
California lawmakers have passed a measure cracking down on the future sales of new gasoline cars. The rules call for the ban of new gas-powered cars by 2035, with target guidelines to phase out the cars in increments. It is the first ban of its kind, and states nationwide are expected to enact similar policies.
David Popp is a professor in the Public Administration and International Affairs Department in Syracuse University's Maxwell School. Popp's research interests are in environmental policy and the economics of technological change. Much of his research focuses on the links between environmental policy and innovation, with a particular interest in how environmental and energy policies shape the development of new technologies that may be relevant for combatting climate change.
Popp says, "While I support efforts to increase the use of electric vehicles, I worry that an all-out ban on gasoline-powered vehicles would be going too far. Electric vehicles are great for day-to-day commutes, for example, but many consumers are still concerned about the lack of range batteries have for a family road trip. The California policy appears to provide some leeway by allowing hydrogen powered vehicles. But hydrogen vehicles are still an expensive option and fueling stations are limited.
"Whether manufacturers will work to improve the viability of hydrogen vehicles is not clear. The cost of producing hydrogen fuel is a limiting factor, which requires investments from energy producers as well. Automakers have already committed to producing more electric vehicles. A mandate like this helps reassure them that there will be a market for these vehicles. Improvements are likely, but limits on range and charging time may be difficult technical challenges to overcome. It does appear that plug-in hybrid vehicles would be allowed under the California regulation. If so, that could provide an alternative for consumers concerned about range, assuming manufacturers choose to make such vehicles available.
"The 17 states that currently follow California's vehicle emissions standards face a challenging choice. A policy change like this cannot be adopted in a vacuum. New charging infrastructure will need to be built, particularly for people who don't live in single-family homes and can simply plug in a vehicle when they return home. Charging infrastructure will also be needed along interstates and other places where drivers may go on longer road trips. Will states not participating upgrade their infrastructure as well? Additional charging stations mean new electric grid capacity will be needed. For consumers choosing hydrogen vehicles, refueling stations need to be built. And there is no guarantee hydrogen is a clean fuel. Hydrogen can be produced using renewable energy, but it can also be made using fossil fuels.
"Any state choosing to follow California's lead will must be prepared to make the necessary investments to make electric and hydrogen vehicles work in their states. Simply mandating their sale will not be enough."
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and the electric companies aren’t putting up charging stations because???
why is it always the taxpayers...
Because it would cost them more money than they currently make in a entire decade...............
Ask you investment broker if he/she is a millionaire.
If they answer no............................
That’s right because they aren’t practical. Get it?
Battery EV’s are but an expensive nitch product and will be never anything more.
“That’s right because they aren’t practical. Get it?”
Nope. Because Tesla has a backlog of car orders and Musk is also building battery factories, lithium refineries and spaceships.
Even Superman can’t do everything.
National suicide.
Now I know why we haven’t been visited by extraterrestrials.
They have us quarantined...................
Did you know every single Tesla made has been recalled? I guess except for the ones made last week.
Did you know over 58 million cars were manufactured this year?
Did you know China makes more EV’s than the rest of the world combined?
Did you know China makes more cars than the rest of the world combined?
The scale of the transition boggles the mind. EV’s are just nitch vehicles.
You’re on the wrong side of this issue brother.
Taliban like radical progressivism has destroyed California. It has exterminated the personal destinies of the citizens
California citizens are just tax slaves working to create the delusion of Utopia
It’s been my experience if you don’t bug out at least 48 hours before landfall your screwed.....72 hours is really most desirable.
fixed link:
https://techxplore.com/news/2022-09-gas-powered-car-wont-infrastructure-investments.html
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They come for a look, and leave quickly. Heh.
We went to check on our relatives in the Panama City area three days AFTER Hurricane Michael, a CAT 5.
The devastation was horrendous. I have been thru 5 hurricanes CAT 2’s and 3’s, and never saw anything like Michael’s destruction.
Entire forests of old growth pines, 2 and 3 feet thick cut down like a giant lawnmower went thru them at 15 feet off the ground.....
If a 5 is anywhere near coming at you get away as far and as fast as you possibly can...................
Yeah a team from my church went to Mexico Beach 2 or 3 times after hurricane Michael setting up sheds for people to have a place to store whatever they could salvage from their houses.
They came back stunned at the complete destruction.
Some places there was just a foundation, no house.......................
Yep. Unfortunately that’s the risk when you live on the southern coast.
It took “experts” to figure this out???
Not if they don't sell.
I asked that question months ago at FR.
<> I suspect I’ll be seeing EVs scattered along the highway like so many discarded soda cans<>
And dead bodies stinking in the summer heat.
H2 is a very small molecule. From a practical standpoint, this means it really, really wants to escape containment. And to store enough of it to do useful things, it must be stored a high pressures. This makes it really, really likely to leak! It’s hard to make it not leak!
What are the practical results of a hydrogen leak?
Well, this example from history is illustrative:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fURATK5Yt30
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