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1 posted on 08/15/2022 10:19:39 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski
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To: Jan_Sobieski

There were hundreds of witnesses who said “missile”.

Meanwhile the CIA came up with the “fuel tank explosion” story.

Hmmm—do I believe hundreds of witnesses or the CIA?

Decision, decisions.

;-)


2 posted on 08/15/2022 10:22:45 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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I have worked with many Pan Am and TWA 747 mechanics. Those guys were the specialists with that aircraft. After Flight 800 went down, not one said it was because of “faulty wiring” in the center C-section of the aircraft. As a matter of fact that particular 747 had just come out of a heavy check and was considered to be the best ship in TWAs fleet. One mechanic I worked with stated he had a family member , who was in FBI, assigned to the crash. When questioned about incident it was all hush hush!!! These guys were very adamant about the aircraft not going down because of a catastrophic maintenance issue!!!! Many eyewitness accounts say the same, on how a flare appeared to be going from the water to the sky…. Feds told these people, Nah, it was the flames going down to the earth!!!! I for believe it was shot down. Another government coverup we will probably never hear the truth. I could continue, but what’s the point?


4 posted on 08/15/2022 10:29:00 AM PDT by MGunny ( )
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To: Jan_Sobieski

I told what I knew about this many years ago. Got trashed for it here. Won’t bother again. Some people have a hard time accepting that there are indeed people that know more than they do.


5 posted on 08/15/2022 10:30:17 AM PDT by StolarStorm
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If they would shoot down an airliner and cover it up, they would try to frame a President who sided with the citizens and the rule of law.


6 posted on 08/15/2022 10:30:53 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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Worked with a former Squid who said at the time, that this looked like an accident on a known training range.


7 posted on 08/15/2022 10:30:54 AM PDT by G Larry (May God continue to Bless Jim Robinson!)
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If the FBI and the CIA were involved, you can be assured the cause was NOT what they said.


8 posted on 08/15/2022 10:31:36 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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“In the way of background, Teele joined the Navy in 1994. In 1996, according to his Navy transcript, he was serving as a “seaman apprentice” receiving advanced training in “specialized Navy occupations.” Teele’s training went well enough that in 1998 he was made an “operations specialist”....”
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My memory may be faulty. I got out of the Navy 30 years before Teele joined and promotions may have changed drastically since then, but as I recall we entered boot camp as SR. On completion of boot camp we became SA and after just 6 months in grade, we were eligible to attain SN.
Two years as a SA does not seem like proficient advancement to me. However, as I said, my info is dated.


15 posted on 08/15/2022 10:39:06 AM PDT by Roccus (First we beat the Nazis........Then we defeated the Soviets....... Now, we are them.)
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The TWA 800 Whistleblower Is Legit

I told ya so!

Faulty wiring and fuel tank explosions are bogus, as are underseat terrorist bombs.

I've seen this stuff before.

17 posted on 08/15/2022 10:43:39 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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I absolutely remember Dan Rather interviewing live the person in charge of El Al Airlines in NYC about this matter. That guy clearly said that they received intelligence that their aircraft was targeted, so they cancelled that flight.

And then he said “flight 800 took off in its place”.


18 posted on 08/15/2022 10:44:04 AM PDT by Doctor Congo
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re my #15

In no way am I saying that the story we were fed by the government is true. I’m just looking at the bona fides of this witness being offered by the author


19 posted on 08/15/2022 10:44:43 AM PDT by Roccus (First we beat the Nazis........Then we defeated the Soviets....... Now, we are them.)
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Not an expert. I read his first book. I am a believer.


20 posted on 08/15/2022 10:46:19 AM PDT by genghis (Cathinkngact only reason go after puthan 5nu0 inbbiedComlpln)
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I’m convinced al-Qaeda staged the 9/11 attack in four separate aircraft because it made it impossible for the U.S. government to lie about what happened. If there was only one plane that crashed in the World Trade Center, you can be sure the FBI and CIA would have concocted a bullsh!t story about what happened.


27 posted on 08/15/2022 10:51:45 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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It sounds plausible.

(Trust the government.)


28 posted on 08/15/2022 10:56:33 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Sometimes when you get to where you're supposed to be, it's too soon.)
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I saw the video ONCE. It wasn’t shown again. It was clearly a missile. Zero doubt.


29 posted on 08/15/2022 10:58:59 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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PING!!


41 posted on 08/15/2022 11:13:32 AM PDT by Roccus (First we beat the Nazis........Then we defeated the Soviets....... Now, we are them.)
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No one with one eye and a grain of sense believes the fuel tank explosion bullsh*t.


46 posted on 08/15/2022 11:17:59 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every leftist is a blood-thirsty fascist yearning to be free of current societal constraints.)
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I remember reading that they did indeed find explosive material consistence with with what a warhead would carry, but that was because that aircraft was used for a training exercise were explosive material was brought on board and dogs were used to locate the explosives.

Stuff must have not been packaged very well for that much material to remain behind in the aircraft.


49 posted on 08/15/2022 11:21:51 AM PDT by CodeJockey ("The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” – Edward Abbey)
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At that time I was working on a Navy missile program (not Standard). Within a couple of days of the shootdown we heard through the grapevine that the wrong motor section got on the rail somehow and came up to the launcher. It was supposed to be inert but wasn’t. At that time we heard nothing about a towed target, our understanding was that the exercise was to have been electronic only.

The inert motor sections used for exercises have a loopback for the control signals so the fire control people could verify all the right signals made it to the missile and it WOULD HAVE fired if it was real world instead of an exercise. The fire control people would presumably have no indication the wrong motor section was in place until they felt and heard the missile launch, and then it was too late.

The warhead section was inert as it was supposed to be but a direct hit is a direct hit. The Standard is a radar missile so it would most likely hit right between the wings. I don’t doubt the fuel in the center tank was atomized by the impact and exploded.

The missile would have gone through and through the aircraft and its trajectory would have been completely different than that of the plane debris, so it never would have been found among the debris. The compound found on the recovered seats was most likely from the missile motor.


69 posted on 08/15/2022 12:12:16 PM PDT by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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On the evening of July 17, 1996, as Teele relates, the Carr was trying out new AN/SPY-1 Alpha radar as well as new AN/SPS 49 radar.

Some BS going on...
Sorry but a Perry class Frigate does not have a AN/SPY-1 radar. I was an instructor at the AEGIS CSEDS R&D site and served on a Perry class frigate. What else about this story is not true?

70 posted on 08/15/2022 12:15:17 PM PDT by MichaelRDanger
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Too many of these to deny IMHO.


96 posted on 08/15/2022 1:17:19 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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